The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

So what's new?

I've noticed the Liberals are now ahead in all major polls and Trudeau hasn't even started to campaign yet...i'd be shocked if they lost the election now.

Just shows just how incompetent Conservatives are.

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11 July 2019 at 07:31 PM
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by MoViN.tArGeT k

Well that's how it should work. Instead we see record profits. They are not working for water utilities they work for us based companys

Loblaw pre tax profit margin is the same as it was in 2010 (around 3%)


by uke_master k

No, the 50k a year is for an undergrad, not a doctor. And notice the bolded: " Tuition can be 50k plus per year for an undergrad at big schools. That is very clearly being shown as the upper end, not the average, to see if your point can stand in this scenario (and clearly it couldn't). While I've taught at big institutions in the past, my smaller institution now is more like 30k. It's still INCREDIABLY expensive and brings in a huge amount of tuition dollars that are injected into the country p

24 hours is often enough to sustain and many break that rule. I don't need to state the obvious cases and read the party line plenty of people can do that like you. I would much rather bring up less talked about variables.


by Luciom k

Loblaw pre tax profit margin is the same as it was in 2010 (around 3%)

and? in a free market it should have went down since it deals in cost of living sales while having cost of living expenses when the cost of living has gone out of control. That's how free markets should work sometimes you have to take a hit when demand goes up. People just can't fathom a company losing money in modern society but their has to be losers so bad business models die and new one come from the ashes.

also do you have a 20-30 year graph? im paranoid of nitpicked stats


by Luciom k

Loblaw pre tax profit margin is the same as it was in 2010 (around 3%)

I thought Justin was going to punish these grocery giants if they did not lower prices ?


by MoViN.tArGeT k

and? in a free market it should have went down since it deals in cost of living sales while having cost of living expenses when the cost of living has gone out of control. That's how free markets should work sometimes you have to take a hit when demand goes up. People just can't fathom a company losing money in modern society but their has to be losers so bad business models die and new one come from the ashes.

also do you have a 20-30 year graph? im paranoid of nitpicked stats

I checked on PC the 2005-2024 and it peaked in 2021. I used 2010 exactly because it's like today. It fluctuates from slightly negative to 6 something in the period so 3% currently is really about average.

Can't provide the link now but just Google "loblaw profit margin historical graph".

As for why I picked them, afaik they are the biggest retail chain by sales so if anyone in the sector has market power in canada it's them


by Luciom k

Wait IF an immigrant by his presence keeps wages down, that benefits consumers of the goods/services produced by that input as well, prices would otherwise be higher.

How much the benefit accrues to the employer vs how much it accrues to consumers depends on many things but the main one is the market power of the employer, which means that in highly competitive sectors like retail or agriculture or fast food the benefit of lower wages goes mainly to consumers.

So you have canadians who could have

The benefit of them lowering cost through keeping wages low because he works in Walmart or similar jobs is not serious .

The cost of human and materials ressources far exceed the benefits .
Just the housing cost is a clear indication of it .
And then you have them using resources from government .
Then they do eat and consume , increasing demands for goods and services .
It ain’t a job at wallmart that will make a breakeven cost for society .


by MoViN.tArGeT k

24 hours is often enough to sustain and many break that rule. I don't need to state the obvious cases and read the party line plenty of people can do that like you. I would much rather bring up less talked about variables.

Why is it a problem that international students can "sustain" themselves working 24 hours a week on low wage labour IN ADDITION to going to school full time and spending tens of thousands a year on tuition to do so? That seems like a good thing. They are working, they are contributing to the economy, they are filling low wage jobs that often doesn't have sufficient supply, they are learning and becoming high skilled so they can eventually really substantially contribute to the economy or return home and build deep connections between canada and many countries all while bringing huge amounts of tuition dollars in from outside of Canada.

Win.

Win.

Win.


by uke_master k

Why is it a problem that international students can "sustain" themselves working 24 hours a week on low wage labour IN ADDITION to going to school full time and spending tens of thousands a year on tuition to do so? That seems like a good thing. They are working, they are contributing to the economy, they are filling low wage jobs that often doesn't have sufficient supply, they are learning and becoming high skilled so they can eventually really substantially contribute to the economy or return

And we agree again 😀


Pierre unveils another great policy No GST on new home purchases under a million $ .


by lozen k

Pierre unveils another great policy No GST on new home purchases under a million $ .

Funny way to beat inflation .
Let’s make it easier to increase demands and increase debt by reducing taxes lol.
Carney lately said polievre didn’t know ***** about the economy .
What’s is polievre education ?
Guess is right .


by Montrealcorp k

Funny way to beat inflation .
Let’s make it easier to increase demands and increase debt by reducing taxes lol.
Carney lately said polievre didn’t know ***** about the economy .
What’s is polievre education ?
Guess is right .

Pierre is a career politician but he does understand that when you tax fuel than anything that you consume goes up in costs

Please tell me what Justin Trudeaus experience is that makes him such a great leader ? Drama school?


I have to do more research to fully form an opinion on this one, but off the bat note that it was originally Trudeau's idea when he removed the GST on new rental builds which is fantastic. This just extends it (but basically cuts out vancouver and toronto that don't vote conservative because of the 1M cutoff). It's also really expensive, so poilievre is clawing back 8B from two major housing investment funds created by Trudeau. So it isn't really "new" money into housing. It's changing from targeted investment to across the board. So it is a little unclear in my mind the net effects as of now.


An example of the tradeoff being proposed here: https://www.tbnewswatch.com/local-news/b...


by uke_master k

An example of the tradeoff being proposed here: https://www.tbnewswatch.com/local-news/b...

I’ll say it again Trudeau was finally honest when he said housing isn’t a federal responsibility. Than he back tracked …..

As for his policy on no GST on building rental units that was one of his original campaign promises that if he enacted at the beginning would have helped .


by lozen k

Pierre is a career politician but he does understand that when you tax fuel than anything that you consume goes up in costs

Please tell me what Justin Trudeaus experience is that makes him such a great leader ? Drama school?

im not saying trudeau is awesome either....
but the concept of trudeau was a teacher and didnt know shiat about the economy....
well polievre is the same damn thing and the way he speaks, it shows....


by lozen k

I’ll say it again Trudeau was finally honest when he said housing isn’t a federal responsibility. Than he back tracked …..

As for his policy on no GST on building rental units that was one of his original campaign promises that if he enacted at the beginning would have helped .

It's amusing how almost all of your half-remembered microquotes from Trudeau are immediately disproven by just quoting the full quote.

"I'll be blunt as well — housing isn't a primary federal responsibility. It's not something that we have direct carriage of," he said.

"But it is something that we can and must help with."

I guess he "backtracked" one sentence later. Like he is 100% correct, it is hilarious that conservatives think of this as some big gotcha.

I'm glad you acknowledge that Trudeau - once again - fulfilled yet another campaign promise that Poilievre has now taken for his own. Poilievre also copied Trudeau on the idea of trying to coerce municipalities to change zoning via the federal purse.


by Montrealcorp k

im not saying trudeau is awesome either....
but the concept of trudeau was a teacher and didnt know shiat about the economy....
well polievre is the same damn thing and the way he speaks, it shows....

100% this. Poilievre is the biggest "drama teacher" politician. Every single time the man stands up in the house of commons to speak it is this bad drama show of talking points he started working on when he was 25. Poilievre is all drama all the time and trying to mock anyone else for being a bit dramatic pales in comparison.


Poilievre will be a one term PM, he will be enough to get rid of Trudeau but it clear the guy is just clueless and very thin skinned.

Unless the Liberals pick some guy that can't speak English again like Dion


by uke_master k

It's amusing how almost all of your half-remembered microquotes from Trudeau are immediately disproven by just quoting the full quote.

I guess he "backtracked" one sentence later. Like he is 100% correct, it is hilarious that conservatives think of this as some big gotcha.

I'm glad you acknowledge that Trudeau - once again - fulfilled yet another campaign promise that Poilievre has now taken for his own. Poilievre also copied Trudeau on the idea of trying to coerce municipalities to change zonin

It’s not a gotcha I agreed with him no leader is going to solve the housing affordability crisis at the federal level .


by lozen k

It’s not a gotcha I agreed with him no leader is going to solve the housing affordability crisis at the federal level .

You were dishonest. You accused Trudeau of backtracking, but the “backtracking” he did was literally stated in the next line that you cut off. Instead of backtracking he has had an entirely consistent position that is also correct.


by uke_master k

You were dishonest. You accused Trudeau of backtracking, but the “backtracking” he did was literally stated in the next line that you cut off. Instead of backtracking he has had an entirely consistent position that is also correct.

Yet he launched two programs that amount to billions to try and solve the housing crisis .


by lozen k

Yet he launched two programs that amount to billions to try and solve the housing crisis .

That is consistent with the FULL quote and not the butchered false quote you provided:

"I'll be blunt as well — housing isn't a primary federal responsibility. It's not something that we have direct carriage of," he said.

"But it is something that we can and must help with."

Every word of Trudeau's statement is 100% correct and consistent with what he then did policy wise. Much of the problems are not at the federal level, it's things like rising municipal taxes that provide a huge part of the problem and the feds can't really fix this alone, but they CAN and MUST try to help out given the severity of the crisis. And he has.

Both Trudeau and Poilievre are promising fairly similar things here. Trudeau is spending billions on targeted investments with the funds and the partial GST cut. Poilievre is spending billions with general investment via the broader GST cut and cancelling the targeted investments. One can debate the merits of each approach, but either way it is ottawa spending billions to try and incentivize housing construction.


Justin Trudeau we will meet NATO spending by 2032

PBO today once again Justin Trudeau is lying


Well a "lie" is closer to what you did where you microquoted Trudeau when the next sentence immediately disproved your narrative. A report saying that attaining goals in 2032 is going to be hard to do is...well....just that.

One of the details of the report that I think a lot of conservatives have not really internalized is that trudeau has put in place actually really strict fiscal controls. There's a sense of profligate spending, but low deficit-to-gdp has been a feature of his entire duration and those controls have been strengthened a lot going into the next couple years. So the PBO is right to note that it is hard to BOTH attain military spending AND the fiscal controls. What poilievre does with this is unclear. With his new housing GST announcement he is clearly not above splashing billions in deficit spending around.


by uke_master k

Well a "lie" is closer to what you did where you microquoted Trudeau when the next sentence immediately disproved your narrative. A report saying that attaining goals in 2032 is going to be hard to do is...well....just that.

One of the details of the report that I think a lot of conservatives have not really internalized is that trudeau has put in place actually really strict fiscal controls. There's a sense of profligate spending, but low deficit-to-gdp has been a feature of his entire duration

LOL Spending controls He said a deficit of 40 Billion and its going to be higher . Remember Budgets balance themselves.

Though you are right not sure how Pierre gets things under control after a prime minister that accumulated more debt than all the PM's before him

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