Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

[QUOTE=Crossnerd]Edit: RULES FOR THIS THREAD

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These are our baselines. We're not reinventing the wheel here. If you aren't sure if something is acceptable to post, its better to ask first. If you think someone is posting something that violates the above guidelines, please report it or PM me rather than responding in kind.

To reiterate some of the points:

1. No personal attacks. This is a broad instruction, but, in general, we want to focus on attacking an argument rather than the poster making it. It is fine to say a post is antisemitic; it is not okay to call someone an antisemite over and over. If you believe someone is making antisemitic posts, report them or PM me. The same goes for calling people "baby killers" and "genocide lovers". You are allowed to argue that an action supports genocide or that the consequences of certain policies results in the death of children, but we are no longer going to be speaking to one another's intentions. It is not productive to the conversation and doesn't further any debate.

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by Crossnerd k

Stop immediately with the Nazi references.

Blue,

You should probably put Trolly, Victor and Jalfrezi on ignore for your own good. The mod has made it clear that as long as they dont name call, they can spread as many antisemetic lies, push Islamist and Russian propaganda, and dehumanize Jews and Ukranians as much as they want.

You could of course do the same for Palestinians, but you wont because you are actually a decent human being. So it is just an asymmetry you have to live with.

It just is what it is.

I do appreciate you actually bring facts to the discussion, so this thread isn't just pages and pages of lies dehumanizing Jews. But you have to accept these guys have carte blanche to post this material.


Posting an article from BBC is antisemitism now lol


To all the people that think we need to "improve relations" with the IRI, I just dont get how you think this works out.

The IRI is a theocratic organization that has made it very clear their #1 objective is destruction of the state of Israel, and it is non negotiable. And they have been working relentlessly for 40+ years to achieve this end, without ever wavering. Yes, it is not a rational goal, but they are religious zealots, and believe their supernatural objectives take highest precedence over worldly concerns.

So given this, unless we accept that the IRI should be allowed to attempt to destroy Israel indefinitely, how does appeasing IRI and normalizing relations with them help anything?


by Victor k

Posting an article from BBC is antisemitism now lol

If you are not cheering on genocide you're an antisemite.


Hilarious post BJ

How have you not sold out MSG yet?


You seem triggered bro.

I don't see genocide as a humorous subject myself. But each to their own I guess.


by Brian James k

You seem triggered bro.

Confirmed banger


by Brian James k

If you are not cheering on genocide you're an antisemite.

I don't see any genocide and certainly don't see anyone cheering it on either. It's impossible to take any argument seriously from posters who bandy loaded emotive terms about like genocide or apartheid.


Israel abducts alleged Hezbollah official in unprecedented sea raid

The Israeli military abducted who it said was a senior Hezbollah official in an unprecedented operation on Saturday morning during which Israeli commandos landed on the shores of Batroun, northern Lebanon, captured the alleged official and escaped via speedboat.

In a statement, an Israeli military official said its forces captured a “senior operative of Hezbollah” and transferred him to its territory to be investigated by military intelligence. The media outlet Axios cited Israeli sources as saying the captured man – Imad Amhaz – was responsible for Hezbollah’s naval operations.

Lebanon’s caretaker minister of transport, Ali Hamie, said that Amhaz was a civilian boat captain, while Hezbollah did not comment on allegations that he belonged to the organisation. Lebanon’s caretaker prime minister, Najib Mikati, said Lebanon would be submitting a complaint to the UN security council, and that he had asked Lebanon’s military and the UN’s peacekeeping mission to investigate the incident.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/n...


Lebanon’s caretaker minister of transport, Ali Hamie, said that Amhaz was a civilian boat captain,

its cool when Israel abducts civilians for torture and hostage taking.


by Victor k

its cool when Israel abducts civilians for torture and hostage taking.

We don't know he was a civilian, there's conflicting reports and Hezbollah aren't clarifying at present. You don't know he's being abducted for torture. If he's a "hostage" then who negotiates his release?


You are right. They won't release him from the prison torture system.


by Dunyain k

Blue,

You should probably put Trolly, Victor and Jalfrezi on ignore for your own good. The mod has made it clear that as long as they dont name call, they can spread as many antisemetic lies, push Islamist and Russian propaganda, and dehumanize Jews and Ukranians as much as they want.

Why is Kelhus allowed to just **** out blatant lies?


by corpus vile k

I don't see any genocide and certainly don't see anyone cheering it on either. It's impossible to take any argument seriously from posters who bandy loaded emotive terms about like genocide or apartheid.

Do you think the posters who mention genocide or apartheid don’t actually believe that’s what’s occurring?


by corpus vile k

I don't see any genocide and certainly don't see anyone cheering it on either. It's impossible to take any argument seriously from posters who bandy loaded emotive terms about like genocide or apartheid.

I've posted detailed analysis and opinions from experts and scholars on the subject in this thread before who say it is absolutely genocide. So until you do the same for your argument then I'm sorry but it's you who can't be taken seriously.


by Dunyain k

Blue,

You should probably put Trolly, Victor and Jalfrezi on ignore for your own good. The mod has made it clear that as long as they dont name call, they can spread as many antisemetic lies, push Islamist and Russian propaganda, and dehumanize Jews and Ukranians as much as they want.

You could of course do the same for Palestinians, but you wont because you are actually a decent human being. So it is just an asymmetry you have to live with.

It just is what it is.

I do appreciate you actually

I'm guessing that 95% of the anti Israel crowd in here are Muslims. I'm not shocked they say the things they do about Israel. The other 5% are identity politic woke progressives.


by Victor k

its cool when Israel abducts civilians for torture and hostage taking.

It's not good to believe everything that comes out of terrorists mouths.


by Brian James k

I've posted detailed analysis and opinions from experts and scholars on the subject in this thread before who say it is absolutely genocide. So until you do the same for your argument then I'm sorry but it's you who can't be taken seriously.

Everything I have read says it's absolutely not a genocide. I think you may want to get your information from a broad range of sources. There are "experts" and "scholars" who know there isn't a genocide but push the narrative anyway.


by mongidig k

I'm guessing that 95% of the anti Israel crowd in here are Muslims.

I'm guessing none.


by mongidig k

I'm guessing that 95% of the anti Israel crowd in here are Muslims..

LOOOOOL


I'm not a muslim so that must make me a woke progressive then. lol


Ya I don't think many "woke progressives" are anti Israel either. Will give props to Trolly for maybe kinda a little.


by mongidig k

I'm guessing that 95% of the anti Israel crowd in here are Muslims. I'm not shocked they say the things they do about Israel. The other 5% are identity politic woke progressives.

Holy ****ing god

MAGA



by Dunyain k

Blue,

You should probably put Trolly, Victor and Jalfrezi on ignore for your own good. The mod has made it clear that as long as they dont name call, they can spread as many antisemetic lies, push Islamist and Russian propaganda, and dehumanize Jews and Ukranians as much as they want.

You could of course do the same for Palestinians, but you wont because you are actually a decent human being. So it is just an asymmetry you have to live with.

It just is what it is.

I do appreciate you actually

Dunyain is aware my own family is Jewish. He’s also a multiple times previously banned poster, so if anyone has any actual questions regarding the moderation of this thread, I’m going to suggest you refer to me rather than “Dunyain”.

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