Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
Why is there non moderation discussion in the moderation thread?
She is of course wrong
Despite the high praise, she doesn't sound anything like me
is she hot though?
lol good one!
I just perused her twitter, seems like the typical leftist nonsense. Attack everything that's bad, blame the people in charge, offer no actual solutions to help because then they could be attacked.And of course a lot of patting on the back... the irony. "Every accusation is a confession har har!"
lmao
leftist = morally good and logical
that might be the greatest summary of leftist grievance politics I’ve ever heard, and she said it without a hint of irony
I think its highly likely from the circumstances around his death that we were shown by the Israelis that he was conducting armed resistance operations above ground regularly.
Israeli intelligence believes he was collecting supplies preparing to go underground for a long period. He wasn't involved in any resistance at all when he was caught. The Israeli patrol accidentally stumbled on his group. Also, they believe the 6 hostages found murdered were part of his personal hostage shield. But their condition was so deteriorated they literally couldn't walk anymore, so the choice was leave them to be likely found by the IDF or execute them. Easy choice for someone of Sinwar's personality profile (When he was in prison he was assessed as being exceptionally cruel and violent. He actually made his bones in Hamas torturing and murdering Palestinians with tremendous cruelty that were accused of collaborating with Israel).
has there ever been a potus in the modern era that someone WOULDNT call a war criminal? is it clinton?
just asking.
Luckbox,
You have lived in/visited nations with leftist regimes. Would you characterize them as having morally and logically correct politics that provide positive outcomes for their citizens? Do the people who live in these nations view their leftist governments positively in your opinion?
Luckbox,
You have lived in/visited nations with leftist regimes. Would you characterize them as having morally and logically correct politics that provide positive outcomes for their citizens? Do the people who live in these nations view their leftist governments positively in your opinion?
These unfortunately were't true leftist regimes as those exist only in theory. In the real world the right corrupts all.
I would say that Colombians today seem a lot happier with Petro than Argentinians were under Christina Fernandez de Kirchner
Luckbox,
You have lived in/visited nations with leftist regimes. Would you characterize them as having morally and logically correct politics that provide positive outcomes for their citizens?
I have too, and in general the answer is yes but the force of the external and internal Right is strong and destructive of good.
These unfortunately were't true leftist regimes as those exist only in theory. In the real world the right corrupts all.
I would say that Colombians today seem a lot happier with Petro than Argentinians were under Christina Fernandez de Kirchner
lol.
One of the major contentions against leftism if not the main one is that they model human beings in objectively false ways and everything that follows from that automatically fails to produce good results.
People are greedy, selfish, inherently willing to lie, scam, even kill for their own advantage. They can also be collaborative both if they feel they gain from it or because they just like to collaborate and so on.
If your system can only work if uncorruptible wise men are in power, your system is utter trash and you have to toss it away in full and start from zero.
If your system only works if the vast majority of people are willing to constantly self-sacrifice themselves significantly for strangers, same thing.
lol.One of the major contentions against leftism if not the main one is that they model human beings in objectively false ways and everything that follows from that automatically fails to produce good results.People are greedy, selfish, inherently willing to lie, scam, even kill for their own advantage. They can also be collaborative both if they feel they gain from it or becau
Basically, this. Saying "leftist regimes get corrupted by the right" is like saying "we played great and would have definitely won, if it weren't for the other team on the pitch".
That's why the left end of the horseshoe so often jumps to the right end.
Not at all. It’s like saying in a world dominated by short term capitalist greed it’s very hard to keep winning when the institutions are all aligned in favour of self interest and the owner class.
It’s good that you agree with Luciom though.
Israeli intelligence believes he was collecting supplies preparing to go underground for a long period. He wasn't involved in any resistance at all when he was caught. The Israeli patrol accidentally stumbled on his group. Also, they believe the 6 hostages found murdered were part of his personal hostage shield. But their condition was so deteriorated they literally couldn'
In case you're wondering how this stuff gets spread
Didn't Carter support and arm the Suharto regime in Indonesia? Weren't they slaughtering East Timorese ? Didn't he support Somoza also? And bung a few mill to the El Salvador Junta aka Death Squads-'R'-Us?
Maybe not a war criminal but not necessarily the humanitarian he's sometimes made out to be.
Not at all. It’s like saying in a world dominated by short term capitalist greed it’s very hard to keep winning when the institutions are all aligned in favour of self interest and the owner class.
It’s good that you agree with Luciom though.
Greed (the desire to get more so that you can find a better partner and have more and better children that live longer and better lives and can have more and better children and so on) as one of the main motivational sources for human beings doesn't disappear when you vote left.
Greed in an enlarged sense is everywhere and the propulsionary force than makes us different and better than animals.
It's what makes you do something even after you have the very basics covered. Without greed we are all substistence gatherers and hunters.
Not only greed is good, it is the source of most of what is good.
And you cannot wish it away anyway, even if you disagree with it being good. You need to channel that ineliminable force within humans and limit it's negative connotations.
And you achieve that by building and defending a system where greed is conducive of personal gain and positive spillovers for other people. Where in order to gain resources for yourself you need to generate value for others.
That system is called capitalism and it works.
And you can't blame it for things about human nature you dislike. Including greed. Because those things existed before capitalism. And will only stop existing if we modify human DNA extensively.
Not at all. It’s like saying in a world dominated by short term capitalist greed it’s very hard to keep winning when the institutions are all aligned in favour of self interest and the owner class.
It’s good that you agree with Luciom though.
And why do you think that's how the world works? Was it an arbitrary decision bestowed from above, or is there a deeper reason for that maybe?
I agree with whoever is objectively correct. You should try it.
And why do you think that's how the world works? Was it an arbitrary decision bestowed from above, or is there a deeper reason for that maybe?
I agree with whoever is objectively correct. You should try it.
Btw i strongly deny that the world is dominated by "short term" greed. Greed, yes, short term, absolutely not.
Right now we are possibly in a bubble of over-investment in servers and computing power in general because of long term bets about the future of technology for example. Regardless of what you think about those bets, those aren't short term bets, and the most important companies worldwide are piling on those bets, right now.
Hundreds of billions per year are being wasted (or "intelligently invested") in renewable energy as well, no matter what you think about that capital allocation, that's not short term either.
The history of capitalism in general is about "we build it and then they will come" since railroads, when you think about capex. That's systematically not about the short term.
