Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
She's correct there of course
Why is there non moderation discussion in the moderation thread?
She is of course wrong
Despite the high praise, she doesn't sound anything like me
is she hot though?
lol good one!
I just perused her twitter, seems like the typical leftist nonsense. Attack everything that's bad, blame the people in charge, offer no actual solutions to help because then they could be attacked.
And of course a lot of patting on the back... the irony. "Every accusation is a confession har har!"
lmao
leftist = morally good and logical
that might be the greatest summary of leftist grievance politics I’ve ever heard, and she said it without a hint of irony
I think its highly likely from the circumstances around his death that we were shown by the Israelis that he was conducting armed resistance operations above ground regularly.
Israeli intelligence believes he was collecting supplies preparing to go underground for a long period. He wasn't involved in any resistance at all when he was caught. The Israeli patrol accidentally stumbled on his group. Also, they believe the 6 hostages found murdered were part of his personal hostage shield. But their condition was so deteriorated they literally couldn't walk anymore, so the choice was leave them to be likely found by the IDF or execute them. Easy choice for someone of Sinwar's personality profile (When he was in prison he was assessed as being exceptionally cruel and violent. He actually made his bones in Hamas torturing and murdering Palestinians with tremendous cruelty that were accused of collaborating with Israel).
has there ever been a potus in the modern era that someone WOULDNT call a war criminal? is it clinton?
just asking.
Luckbox,
You have lived in/visited nations with leftist regimes. Would you characterize them as having morally and logically correct politics that provide positive outcomes for their citizens? Do the people who live in these nations view their leftist governments positively in your opinion?
Luckbox,
You have lived in/visited nations with leftist regimes. Would you characterize them as having morally and logically correct politics that provide positive outcomes for their citizens? Do the people who live in these nations view their leftist governments positively in your opinion?
These unfortunately were't true leftist regimes as those exist only in theory. In the real world the right corrupts all.
I would say that Colombians today seem a lot happier with Petro than Argentinians were under Christina Fernandez de Kirchner
Luckbox,
You have lived in/visited nations with leftist regimes. Would you characterize them as having morally and logically correct politics that provide positive outcomes for their citizens?
I have too, and in general the answer is yes but the force of the external and internal Right is strong and destructive of good.
These unfortunately were't true leftist regimes as those exist only in theory. In the real world the right corrupts all.
I would say that Colombians today seem a lot happier with Petro than Argentinians were under Christina Fernandez de Kirchner
lol.
One of the major contentions against leftism if not the main one is that they model human beings in objectively false ways and everything that follows from that automatically fails to produce good results.
People are greedy, selfish, inherently willing to lie, scam, even kill for their own advantage. They can also be collaborative both if they feel they gain from it or because they just like to collaborate and so on.
If your system can only work if uncorruptible wise men are in power, your system is utter trash and you have to toss it away in full and start from zero.
If your system only works if the vast majority of people are willing to constantly self-sacrifice themselves significantly for strangers, same thing.
lol.
One of the major contentions against leftism if not the main one is that they model human beings in objectively false ways and everything that follows from that automatically fails to produce good results.
People are greedy, selfish, inherently willing to lie, scam, even kill for their own advantage. They can also be collaborative both if they feel they gain from it or because they just like to collaborate and so on.
If your system can only work if uncorruptible wise men are in power, your sys
Basically, this. Saying "leftist regimes get corrupted by the right" is like saying "we played great and would have definitely won, if it weren't for the other team on the pitch".
That's why the left end of the horseshoe so often jumps to the right end.
Not at all. It’s like saying in a world dominated by short term capitalist greed it’s very hard to keep winning when the institutions are all aligned in favour of self interest and the owner class.
It’s good that you agree with Luciom though.
Israeli intelligence believes he was collecting supplies preparing to go underground for a long period. He wasn't involved in any resistance at all when he was caught. The Israeli patrol accidentally stumbled on his group. Also, they believe the 6 hostages found murdered were part of his personal hostage shield. But their condition was so deteriorated they literally couldn't walk anymore, so the choice was leave them to be likely found by the IDF or execute them. Easy choice for someone of
In case you're wondering how this stuff gets spread
Didn't Carter support and arm the Suharto regime in Indonesia? Weren't they slaughtering East Timorese ? Didn't he support Somoza also? And bung a few mill to the El Salvador Junta aka Death Squads-'R'-Us?
Maybe not a war criminal but not necessarily the humanitarian he's sometimes made out to be.
Not at all. It’s like saying in a world dominated by short term capitalist greed it’s very hard to keep winning when the institutions are all aligned in favour of self interest and the owner class.
It’s good that you agree with Luciom though.
Greed (the desire to get more so that you can find a better partner and have more and better children that live longer and better lives and can have more and better children and so on) as one of the main motivational sources for human beings doesn't disappear when you vote left.
Greed in an enlarged sense is everywhere and the propulsionary force than makes us different and better than animals.
It's what makes you do something even after you have the very basics covered. Without greed we are all substistence gatherers and hunters.
Not only greed is good, it is the source of most of what is good.
And you cannot wish it away anyway, even if you disagree with it being good. You need to channel that ineliminable force within humans and limit it's negative connotations.
And you achieve that by building and defending a system where greed is conducive of personal gain and positive spillovers for other people. Where in order to gain resources for yourself you need to generate value for others.
That system is called capitalism and it works.
And you can't blame it for things about human nature you dislike. Including greed. Because those things existed before capitalism. And will only stop existing if we modify human DNA extensively.
Not at all. It’s like saying in a world dominated by short term capitalist greed it’s very hard to keep winning when the institutions are all aligned in favour of self interest and the owner class.
It’s good that you agree with Luciom though.
And why do you think that's how the world works? Was it an arbitrary decision bestowed from above, or is there a deeper reason for that maybe?
I agree with whoever is objectively correct. You should try it.
