Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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by chezlaw k

Nothing.

Never did, never will

If the Dems are preparing to bomb Iran as you suggest, shouldn’t you consider supporting Trump instead?


maybe we should excise trump from the previous 'absolutely nothing to do with trump' discussion before getting into more?


Excising one candidate from a conversation about whether or not there’s a tiny sliver of chance that the other candidate with a long and distinguished history of institutional violence will turn out to be a peacenik seems like a very chezzy copout, though in this case it would be copin.


I hve a tiny hope if Harris wins. I have no other hopes except that 'this too shall pass'

You can make up what you like about that but it's just nonsense.


You might be in for a pleasant surprise if Trump wins.


Yes I will be very surprised if I like anything about another trump presidency.


by chezlaw k

Yes I will be very surprised if I like anything about another trump presidency.

You didn’t like the reduced number of people killed in foreign countries during his first term?


by chezlaw k

Yes I will be very surprised if I like anything about another trump presidency.

Did you like the Patriot Act?


by jalfrezi k

You didn’t like the reduced number of people killed in foreign countries during his first term?

I'm not saying I wont like some things that happen during the 4 years while he is president if he wins.

Hopefully lots of nice things will happpen in those 4 years


by jalfrezi k

It’s not about being offended on behalf of anyone else. Some terms have such deep and long running connotations that they make me cringe a little inside when I hear or read them.

It’s the same as saying “blacks” because it was a term associated with white South Africans during apartheid, and it was almost always derogatory.

I wrote in a previous post exactly about the toxcity of woke discourse like this.

Please don't import identity politics and race critical theorys from white and black relationships, to us.

We are not "Jewish people", and we are proud zionits.


by BOIDS k

lmao

damn looks like vic owes corpus an UNRESERVED apology

victor comment

not sure what is surprising about USA paying Israeli soldiers to do terrorism


by IMBLUEtheONE k

I wrote in a previous post exactly about the toxcity of woke discourse like this.

Please don't import identity politics and race critical theorys from white and black relationships, to us.

We are not "Jewish people", and we are proud zionits.

I'll use whatever terms I'm comfortable with that are in line with mod rules, thank you, and dgaf about you bringing CRT into it, which is irrelevant.


Trump will almost assuredly be worse for the people of Gaza than Harris will be. The Israeli right wing is salivating at the prospect of another 4 years of Trump. I’m not sure how the most hardcore free Palestine supporters have been manipulated into believing DT is going to somehow challenge Bibi instead of enable him, but I guess I respect the gamble?


by DoyleBrunsonFan k

Trump will almost assuredly be worse for the people of Gaza than Harris will be. The Israeli right wing is salivating at the prospect of another 4 years of Trump. I’m not sure how the most hardcore free Palestine supporters have been manipulated into believing DT is going to somehow challenge Bibi instead of enable him, but I guess I respect the gamble?

The most hardcore propal tend to be pro Putin (see victor for ex) so that's where they think Trump will "save lives" (by allowing putin to keep a lot of ukraine and ending that war)


I think you posted in the wrong thread but Trump isnt going to "allow" anything. Russia took the land and will hold it no matter what the USA does short of nukes.


by jalfrezi k

I'll use whatever terms I'm comfortable with that are in line with mod rules, thank you, and dgaf about you bringing CRT into it, which is irrelevant.

so an Israeli jewish zionist is telling you what we prefer to be called, and you respond with DGAF.

very inclusive of you. would you respond the same to a black person?

you are really the poster child of the far-left ideology.


by Victor k

I think you posted in the wrong thread but Trump isnt going to "allow" anything. Russia took the land and will hold it no matter what the USA does short of nukes.

You accused us of carrying out a terrorist gas attack on americans, proven wrong, and can't apologize or even admit it and back track.

is there one honest bone in the anti-israel group here?


by Luciom k

The most hardcore propal tend to be pro Putin (see victor for ex) so that's where they think Trump will "save lives" (by allowing putin to keep a lot of ukraine and ending that war)

Gotta admit, that makes little sense to me but maybe they’re just playing 4D chess.


Wait, so the $30 Amazon Prime fart spray attack was actually a US sanctioned IDF military operation carried out on American soil? Wild stuff.


by IMBLUEtheONE k

so an Israeli jewish zionist is telling you what we prefer to be called, and you respond with DGAF.

very inclusive of you. would you respond the same to a black person?

you are really the poster child of the far-left ideology.

You don't speak for all Jewish people (who I will continue to refer to as "Jewish people" whatever your individual preferences) and thank god for that.


by IMBLUEtheONE k

You accused us of carrying out a terrorist gas attack on americans, proven wrong, and can't apologize or even admit it and back track.

is there one honest bone in the anti-israel group here?

I'm not seeing where I was proven wrong just bc they paid these guys money. USA and it's proxies pay terrorists all the time.


by jalfrezi k

You don't speak for all Jewish people, and thank god for that.

But I do represent the sentiment of most Jewish Israelis, prob around 90%+.

and we are discussing here that particular group.

And you can thank your god as much as you want, but we have more humanity in our worst day, than you on your best day.

the privileged spoiled existence that you call life, wasted mostly on judging us, and doing the all-important job of retweeting ITT, is benefiting no one.

so at least be inclusive 😃


Sure, you Israelis who mostly think Bibi isn't going far enough, fast enough, are absolutely overbrimming with humanity as exemplified by the IDF each and every day.

What will today's headless baby count be?


by jalfrezi k

Sure, you Israelis who mostly think Bibi isn't going far enough, fast enough, are absolutely overbrimming with humanity as exemplified by the IDF each and every day.

What will today's headless baby count be?

go make us some caffe latte and retweet some more for the "cause".

Let us adults handle this dufficult situation.

(my apologies to the baristas ITT).


Go and cheer on your mates as they behead more Palestinian babies and shoot more young kids several times in the head.

Real grown up manly behaviour.

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