Moderation Questions
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Moderation Questions

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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Maybe you aren't aware that Russia is currently...

Never mind, pretend it's USA.


a better example indeed


by jalfrezi m

So capitalism has worked out exactly how many degrees C the planet will warm by and when, and has ascertained that's not a threat to the societies it depends on and that technology to counteract the worst of the effects will become available?

Clever capitalism for not gambling recklessly with its own future!

Stop antropomorphizing capitalism and try to read Hayek to understand how information dispersed through the population gets acted upon without coordination from the top better than when you try to plan from it from your ivory tower.

We already have technology able to cope with the 6sigma scenarios of the most apocalyptic people as i told you. The netherlands in the 1960s fixed 3 meters of sea levels lol. We have greenhouses for agriculture and so on and on and on and on.

It's all about costs and it's stupid to sacrifice present compoung growth too much when you know technology improves every year so it gets cheaper and that fixing the effects is cheaper than preventing them.

The proposal of your people is to give up what allowed the world to prosper and improve lives more in the last 200 years than in the previous 5000 years (fossil fuels) to "degrowth" because of absurd ideology. You are the threat not climate change and capitalism accordingly creates the condition to defend against you


Don't be shy with the answer! So far one option is that the leftist utopian society will defend itself with slavery. What else?


by Bluegrassplayer m

You don't even need the human nature argument.

What is a leftist society going to do if they find themselves invaded by... idk Russia?

Hopefully a better job of deterant and if that fails we fight


What are you going to deter with? Is there a defense industrial complex in this leftist utopia?

Who is going to fight? Conscription is slavery.


by Bluegrassplayer m

Maybe you aren't that Russia is currently...

Never mind, pretend it's USA.

We are effectively governed by the USA in some ways, and have been since WW2. We have US air bases here under the control of the US government and appear to be under contract to join it in whatever its latest foreign folly will be.


by Bluegrassplayer m

What are you going to deter with? Is there a defense industrial complex in this leftist utopia?

Who is going to fight? Conscription is slavery.

What utopia?


by Luciom m

Stop antropomorphizing capitalism and try to read Hayek to understand how information dispersed through the population gets acted upon without coordination from the top better than when you try to plan from it from your ivory tower.We already have technology able to cope with the 6sigma scenarios of the most apocalyptic people as i told you. The netherlands in the 1960s fixed 3

You're talking about how markets theoretically appropriately weigh and price in all information. I'm sure that will be of enormous consolation to us all as we pay £20 for a kg of vegetables in the not too distant future when it becomes clear to people that constantly waterlogged fields aren't going to yield very much.

The threat is very much you and people like you with your 19th century laissez faire approach.


by Bluegrassplayer m

What are you going to deter with? Is there a defense industrial complex in this leftist utopia?

Who is going to fight? Conscription is slavery.

Fight against whom? In this magical world everyone wears flowery headbands and smokes weed all day, they ain't gonna be doing no invading. Ain't no-one got time for that.


We've found the level


And trust d2 to drag us down to it. Cometh the hour, cometh the poster.


by chezlaw m

We've found the level

It's about as good as your "deterrence" strategy. Just hope for the best.


by jalfrezi m

You're talking about how markets theoretically appropriately weigh and price in all information. I'm sure that will be of enormous consolation to us all as we pay £20 for a kg of vegetables in the not too distant future when it becomes clear to people that constantly waterlogged fields aren't going to yield very much.

Are you cognizant of the fact that it is "green" policies that have caused food price increases yes? it's your people who demonize and overregulate/ban pesticides and GMO and everything else.

Do you know how capitalist agriculture looks like? lol at the "waterlogged fields"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/...

Btw yields have increased in the last 50 years


That is what leftists are relying on though. Pretty much no other way around it.


It's just not remotely true


by Luciom m

Are you cognizant of the fact that it is "green" policies that have caused food price increases yes? it's your people who demonize and overregulate/ban pesticides and GMO and everything else.Do you know how capitalist agriculture looks like? lol at the "waterlogged fields"https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/...Btw yields have

No that's not what raised food prices and led to shortages in Europe recently. Low yields in Spain and other places were responsible, and guess what caused that?


by d2_e4 m

It's about as good as your "deterrence" strategy. Just hope for the best.

No I think that's what the right did

You got confused


by chezlaw m

It's just not remotely true

Well other than slavery no answers have been given.


Interested to hear about your 4D military strategy for Russia to invade a nukeless UK.

You're allowed to use maps if you need to place either or both of those countries correctly.


What?


It's ok to say you don't have any idea.


I have no idea what you're saying.

Are you asking what is my plan to defend UK against Russia if Russia invades?

Are you trying to say that Russia can't invade UK and asking what the potential strategy would be?


I'm asking you to suggest a plausible means by which Russia could invade a nukeless UK.

What do you have in mind? Hundreds of thousands of paratroopers? Millions of ground troops roaming across multiple European countries? Vast ships full of the military scanning suitable ports to dock at?

Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically across the plain?


by jalfrezi m

I'm asking you to suggest a plausible means by which Russia could invade a nukeless UK.

What possible relevance does that have to the discussion?

Also, you might have noticed a historical pattern that more often than not, countries invade countries that they border with.

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