Moderation Questions

Moderation Questions

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.

This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.

Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.

Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.

So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.

Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.

So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.

We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.

Thanks.

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30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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Not according to the photos I see every day, which you presumably ignore.


by d2_e4 k

It was a joke bro. Because there is a contingent here who actually thinks the mods here are leftist, and we were talking about leftism, and one of the mods said we weren't asking any questions about moderation, you see.

The modding leans left imo but are hardly leftist in general


by jalfrezi k

Not according to the photos I see every day, which you presumably ignore.

why do you look at photos of the I/P conflict every day, what's the reason to do that for you?


I didn't say I look at them. I said I see them.


by jalfrezi k

I didn't say I look at them. I said I see them.



Scrolling past = seeing; pausing = looking


I think the moderators are tilted and stressed out because they're basically babysitting kindergarteners. However I'd like to relieve them of some of their work load, where can I apply to be a mod in P&S?


by jalfrezi k

I didn't say I look at them. I said I see them.

I don't understand the distinction. How do you see them without looking at them?


by Luciom k

lol.

One of the major contentions against leftism if not the main one is that they model human beings in objectively false ways and everything that follows from that automatically fails to produce good results.

People are greedy, selfish, inherently willing to lie, scam, even kill for their own advantage. They can also be collaborative both if they feel they gain from it or because they just like to collaborate and so on.

If your system can only work if uncorruptible wise men are in power, your sys

very well stated


by Playbig2000 k

I think the moderators are tilted and stressed out because they're basically babysitting kindergarteners. However I'd like to relieve them of some of their work load, where can I apply to be a mod in P&S?

You think getting the chief kindergartener to babysit the others will make their work easier?


by Crossnerd k

It occurs to me now that I should probably chill on making any moves until after the election.

Anyway. You people make me mad.

We’re gonna keep Mets and rafiki back though for good measure. Let’s see if we can’t get through this next week together 😀

You people?

fakeindignation.gif


by jalfrezi k

Not according to the photos I see every day, which you presumably ignore.

I mean, even the pro-Palestinians say that they don’t discriminate during war. Especially with their bombs! They are completely indiscriminate 😀


by Rococo k

I don't understand the distinction. How do you see them without looking at them?

There's a slight difference of intention. Sure, in a literal sense you have to look to see but "seeing something" isn't always the same as "looking at something". Writers know the difference and would choose one over the other.


I’m sure your feed is full of “anti-zionist” people who love to peddle images of war as propaganda, of course you’re going to see that stuff.


Sure there are some anti Zionism follows, some other politics, some sports, some betting , some random stuff.

Propaganda is everywhere, on all sides.


by jalfrezi k

Sure there are some anti Zionism follows, some other politics, some sports, some betting , some random stuff.

Propaganda is everywhere, on all sides.

I don't need to be propagandized anything about Israel because i already start from the point where they are justified to do literally anything to their enemies to guarantee their safety. No amount of collateral damage of non-western citizens (or our allies) will change that for me so how can propaganda affect me?

I don't get peddled stories of how Israel is treating palestinians in Israeli hospitals or feeding them and so on (which i am sure is happening to some extent, and i am sure pro-Israel propagandists are pushing somewhere).

I am more of a royalist than the king so i am immune to propaganda on that topic.


by Luciom k

I don't need to be propagandized anything about Israel because i already start from the point where they are justified to do literally anything to their enemies to guarantee their safety.

"literally anything" including torture?


by jalfrezi k

"literally anything" including torture?

I am not sure how much i can answer this and elaborate on this within forum rules, i have no idea how CN would look at positions like, say, being against the Geneva convention.

I don't know if it's allowed to defend that and other positions i hold so i think i'll stop at literally anything for now and you can read it as expansively as you wish.

If CN tells me i can elaborate i will.


You can say anything that doesn’t violate the public forum guidelines for posting.


by Luciom k

I don't need to be propagandized anything about Israel because i already start from the point where they are justified to do literally anything to their enemies to guarantee their safety.

I've an idea that 'their enemies' take the same view the other way round. As is usual in regional ethnic conflicts, which is why such conflicts are so depressingly unpleasant.


by 57 On Red k

I've an idea that 'their enemies' take the same view the other way round. As is usual in regional ethnic conflicts, which is why such conflicts are so depressingly unpleasant.

yes probably.

but our side has the technological and economical advantage so we should use it with no remorse and with the gloves off and end the conflict.

we shouldn't accept anything but complete unconditional surrender every time we (or our allies) enter a conflict


I will say modding any politico forum or subreddit is easily the hardest to mod. unless its reddits /r politics than its easy ofc
The reason I have a better than thou or think highly of myself is because I dont get emotional and actually think both parties have good takes and dogshit takes all in one. See both sides.

Historically moderators here at this subreddit really have smaller runs becuase it is exhausting, but aside from the isra/pales thread, its not as flame consuming and as much vitriol as it has been in the past. at least from what i recall

and we dont have mods taking money on bets as a 3rd neutral party to settle only to run away with it


by the pleasure k

and we dont have mods taking money on bets as a 3rd neutral party to settle only to run away with it

Who did this?


by Rococo k

Who did this?

Most of those users are gone and this happened such a long long time ago, and iirc a lot of users forgave him, I think it was only a sum amount of 1-2k

he is no longer a mod ofc. Don't want to bring up old wounds in case he still posts here or lurks idk someoen else caa chime in if they want if they were around. Im 98% sure I know the name but dont want to get it wrong in the very low chance. I brought this up in 2020 since it happend quite a few years prior to that anda lot of people forgave him


Bribes to be had? I'm all in, thx!

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