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A ton of narratives get sorted today.
* Did pollsters over-weight in order to avoid under-repping Trump for a 3rd straight time?
* Will women continue to turn out as hard as they've been
* Will Harris win independents at the rate the EV exit polls showed? If not, can she hold a lead?
* Will Ted Cruz finally get ****ed??
As a TX resident I am pretty certain there is zero chance Ted Cruz gets ****ed.
saw ettingermentum saying that the pollsters have been baking in a 2-point advantage for trump that isn't there in the data, so possibly yeah
* Will women continue to turn out as hard as they've been
would be interesting if that iowa pole (think there have been other similar ones from kansas, and elsewhere) is indicative of a larger trend, yeah. if so, trump could get rinsed
* Will Harris win independents at the rate the EV exit polls showed? If not, can she hold a lead?
probably yes, simply because a lot of dems have unregistered in recent years. allegedly they lead with independents now as a result
* Will Ted Cruz finally get ****ed??
seems unlikely. he's unpopular, but apparently conservatives have been moving to places like texas and florida in droves, so he should be ok. would be hilarious if he went down tho
I would take a **** in Donald Trump and Joe Rogan's mouth.
Disgrace!
Hold the line.
First round of exit polls out.
What's the biggest issue:
State of democracy: 36%
Economy: 30%
Abortion: 14%
Thats insane. The economy being dethroned as #1 lol
Who do you trust more on the economy:
Trump: 51%
Harris: 47%
Trump+4 is enough to cause alarm bells for him. He ran almost entirely on that
yeah i think trump was +30 or 40 on the economy a couple months ago, and then all he talked about was the stupid tariff thing. surprised the electorate appreciated how dumb that is, but probably more about how gas prices are relatively low (???) or something
Apparently huge lines at a bunch of college campuses. Time to test Rogan ND Theo Von's impact I guess
I’m 100% getting myself banned again if I spend tonight in politics
Back to the warm comfort of SE goes I
Hello, friends!
only way to survive that hellhole is having like 75% of the regs on ignore lol, gotta be one of the worst forums in existence. not worth eating a ban, unless ..... ya know
I've checked that place out a few times and I don't like the way people post there.
I'd probably get banned for talking about take dumps.
Trump winning independent voters in GA exit polls isn't great. Gender splits as expected
Nate bronze is such a god damn fraud
just heard ettingermentum describe exit polling in usa#1 as "not useful" lol, if that makes you feel any better (prob not)
along those lines, an nbc exit pole had harris only +6 on abortion = wat
just heard ettingermentum describe exit polling in usa#1 as "not useful" lol, if that makes you feel any better (prob not)
along those lines, an nbc exit pole had harris only +6 on abortion = wat
It's not hugely predictive I don't think, but there's no question their performance is bizarre this year so far.
Seems like both Trump and Harris are overperforming in a lot of places relative to 2020. FL being the one more exception.
What is happening who's winning
Yeah Trump winning the betting markets now.
Better get ready to eat **** for 4 years.
Pakman is predicting 270 Dems 268 rep
Crazy.
anyone have good betting link to watch
nancy calling the house for the dems lol
shoot yer shot, girl
Congratulations to the DNC apologists in here. Kamala's pro genocide politics have gifted Trump the win. Hope you're happy.