2024 ELECTION THREAD

2024 ELECTION THREAD

The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?

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14 July 2022 at 02:28 PM
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by natediggity k

Gorgo posited that Montana might go blue. He's not to be taken too seriously.

No, I didn't. I said they were on the list of states with restrictive abortion bans where anything could happen. That was a separate statement. But no one is obligated to take me seriously.

And actions > words is meaningful only when you consider all relevant actions. Such as the ZERO betting actions I've placed in the last 12 years.


Well, it's 19:3 right now, so Trump should be coming out and making a victory speech soon.


by Land O Lakes k

Well, it's 19:3 right now, so Trump should be coming out and making a victory speech soon.

With more than 6 times the votes why shouldn't he?


harris IS supposed to win VA, right now trump is 2k ahead with 3% reporting


North Carolina polls close on the half hour. If Harris wins Georgia and North Carolina, then a lot of Trump's paths to victory are lost. It goes from a 50/50 race to like Harris 70/30...at least Harris 60/40.


by Gorgonian k

No, I didn't. I said they were on the list of states with restrictive abortion bans where anything could happen.

anything could happen = they might go blue

le sigh


by natediggity k

anything could happen = they might go blue

le sigh

I'm sure you know what I meant better than I do. How about this: if I thought it then, why wouldn't I say I did now? I'm not backing off of anything else I've said, why would I change my tune on that?

Easy answer: you are misreading what I said.


by the pleasure k

harris IS supposed to win VA, right now trump is 2k ahead with 3% reporting

Trump was way ahead in Virginia until like 11pm in 2020


by the pleasure k

harris IS supposed to win VA, right now trump is 2k ahead with 3% reporting

This sort of thing is meaningless unless you compare it to expectations for the districts that have reported. Trump being up 2k in Virginia with 3% reporting could be amazing news for Trump, amazing news for Kamala, or pretty much what people expected. It all depends on which districts have reported.


by Gorgonian k

I'm sure you know what I meant better than I do. How about this: if I thought it then, why wouldn't I say I did now? I'm not backing off of anything else I've said, why would I change my tune on that?

Easy answer: you are misreading what I said.

Gorgo:

"Any state with restrictive abortion bans is vulnerable to "unexpectedly" turn blue tomorrow. Keep eyes on Montana, Alaska, Indiana, Kansas, Iowa, in addition to the obvious ones like Florida and Texas. I'd be surprised if at least one of those isn't blue.

More and more people are saying today what I've been saying for weeks: women and minority turnout is being underestimated and will be the difference. Ann Selzer and the early voting data is waking people up.

I don't think it's going to be close."


its insane the republicans are so so ****ing dumb that they could see what happened in 2022, they legit wanted to die on that abortion topic AGAIN

Trump legit not just saying **** it abortion for all is what will do him in this election. Insane hill to die on and the numbers shown what to do and not to do in 2022


by natediggity k

anything could happen = they might go blue

le sigh

Here's exactly what I said:

"Keep eyes on Montana, Alaska, Indiana, Kansas, Iowa, in addition to the obvious ones like Florida and Texas. I'd be surprised if at least one of those isn't blue."

That doesn't mean I think Montana could turn blue. That means it's on the list of states with restrictive abortion bans, and I would be surprised if at least one state on that list isn't blue.

It's not that complicated.


by TookashotatChan k

It was more to do with the seeming insurmountable Trump lead at 2am on election night, and then waking up and seeing Joe Biden up by a sliver in all swing states.

only idiots viewed that as an insurmountable lead - the late surge biden would get from mail in ballots which are counted later was long known and expected - it was heavily discussed both before and during the election

if you thought it was over before a deciding amount of ballots were counted then that is on you - but even then, i don't think you and others are genuinely that stupid - more of a reality distortion thing stemming from confirmation bias


by ladybruin k

North Carolina polls close on the half hour. If Harris wins Georgia and North Carolina, then a lot of Trump's paths to victory are lost. It goes from a 50/50 race to like Harris 70/30...at least Harris 60/40.

I think the odds of Trump winning conditional to him losing NC are lower than 20%


by natediggity k

Gorgo:

"Any state with restrictive abortion bans is vulnerable to "unexpectedly" turn blue tomorrow. Keep eyes on Montana, Alaska, Indiana, Kansas, Iowa, in addition to the obvious ones like Florida and Texas. I'd be surprised if at least one of those isn't blue.

More and more people are saying today what I've been saying for weeks: women and minority turnout is being underestimated and will be the difference. Ann Selzer and the early voting data is waking people up.

I don't think it's going to be

Yep. As I just explained, pretty easy to see I made a list of some states with restrictive abortion bans and said I'd be surprised it at least ONE of those isn't blue.

Didn't say a word about Montana specifically, did I?


With 70% of Florida in, Trump is outperforming by about 2%


by the pleasure k

its insane the republicans are so so ****ing dumb that they could see what happened in 2022, they legit wanted to die on that abortion topic AGAIN

Trump legit not just saying **** it abortion for all is what will do him in this election. Insane hill to die on and the numbers shown what to do and not to do in 2022

They didn't, most of them didn't talk about abortion., only did when pressured, and some even flip flopped toward more reasonable compromises when pressed.

Dems did talk about abortion any chance they got because they knew it helped them


by rickroll k

only idiots viewed that as an insurmountable lead - the late surge biden would get from mail in ballots which are counted later was long known and expected - it was heavily discussed both before and during the election

if you thought it was over before a deciding amount of ballots were counted then that is on you - but even then, i don't think you and others are genuinely that stupid - more of a reality distortion thing stemming from confirmation bias

"Half the country are idiots blah blah blah"


by Luciom k

They didn't, most of them didn't talk about abortion., only did when pressured, and some even flip flopped toward more reasonable compromises when pressed.

Dems did talk about abortion any chance they got because they knew it helped them

Senate and house wise you are correct but if Trump would have backed off abortion more i think we see him tighten up that 30+ women vote instead of it being as lopsided as it is now in midwest


by TookashotatChan k

With 70% of Florida in, Trump is outperforming by about 2%

RCP had Trump +8 average for Florida, 8.5% with 70% in currently


A Republican won Manchin's seat. I was assured by some here that WV voters hate Republican policies. I don't know what happened.


by TookashotatChan k

"Half the country are idiots blah blah blah"

Compared to the other half. Compared to any other country, it's more like three quarters.


by Rococo k

A Republican won Manchin's seat. I was assured by some here that WV voters hate Republican policies. I don't know what happened.

that was suposedly expected when manchin said he was done,both parties knew accrding to both HQ


by Gorgonian k

Yep. As I just explained, pretty easy to see I made a list of some states with restrictive abortion bans and said I'd be surprised it at least ONE of those isn't blue.

Didn't say a word about Montana specifically, did I?

OMG. In order for your statement to be true there has to be a possibility of Montana going blue.....otherwise you wouldn't have named that state.

Le sigh.


by Rococo k

A Republican won Manchin's seat. I was assured by some here that WV voters hate Republican policies. I don't know what happened.

Maybe Russia rigged WV elections?

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