Trump 2nd term prediction thread

Trump 2nd term prediction thread

So, looks like Trump not only smashed the electoral college, but is looking on track to win the popular vote, which seems to be an unexpected turn of events, but a clear sign of the current temperature in the country and perhaps the wider world.

Would be interested to hear views on how his 2nd term will pan out from both sides of the aisle - major happenings, what he's going to get done, what he's not going to get done, the impact of his election on the current conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza, whether his popularity will remain the same, wane, or increase, etc.

A bit of an anemic OP, I know, just interested to hear people's thoughts now that the election uncertainty is over.

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06 November 2024 at 12:32 PM
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by Playbig2000 k

huh?

Hundreds of billions of dollars was sent to Ukraine. Who sent it, Trump?

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au revoir

Do you know what form those hundreds of billions of dollars was sent as?

Do you think it was cash?


by Playbig2000 k

I can't spell out name correctly, but stocks roses?

I know enough about the economy to know that prices were much lower and the economy was much stronger during Trump's first term then they are now.

Prices were increasing during trump's term and that's just what happened dude. Ya, covid threw another big bump on things--but if something went from 4-7now close to half of that was before covid.

trump has given way more to the mic than the ukraine money adds up to.


by master3004 k

Do you know what form those hundreds of billions of dollars was sent as?

Do you think it was cash?

I was always under the impression that when we want to help our friends, we send big, fat bundles of cash, so they can set it on fire and throw it at the approaching enemy. I think it's called "Molotov Dollars" or something.


by d2_e4 k

I was always under the impression that when we want to help our friends, we send big, fat bundles of cash, so they can set it on fire and throw it at the approaching enemy. I think it's called "Molotov Dollars" or something.

Zelensky just burns a mountain of cash a-la Joker in The Dark Knight in an attempt to demoralize the money loving Russian Oligarchs


by Rococo k

The idea that the Ninth Amendment confers substantive rights that are not elsewhere enumerated in the Constitution is very much the minority view.

I just meant that if we take a strict textualist/originalist meaning we could still read in other rights to the constitution, but fair enough I retract my statement and stand corrected.


by Rococo k

This is more than a little hyperbolic. She wasn't signing on to dissents by Clarence Thomas urging that Roe be overturned.

because Thomas reasons to overturn weren't her reasons and because as good as she was at her job (and she was good) she was still human and had to play politics on the margin (as she was allowed to)


by Rococo k

The idea that the Ninth Amendment confers substantive rights that are not elsewhere enumerated in the Constitution is very much the minority view.

the 9a is relevant only when something, unwritten, is broadly considered obviously a right and never infringed upon for a long while then someone comes and tries to infringe it.

that's when you invoke it. that's it's role.

can't really be used for something that states infringed upon for 100 years with everyone accepting it was their right to do, then you "discover" it was covered by the 9a.

and my reading is already expansive. for example it would cover a state attempt to ban owning pets in private homes.

I agree with Potter Steward dissent in Griswold otherwise

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The Ninth Amendment, like its companion, the Tenth … was framed by James Madison and adopted by the States simply to make clear that the adoption of the Bill of Rights did not alter the plan that the Federal Government was to be a government of express and limited powers, and that all rights and powers not delegated to it were retained by the people and the individual States. Until today, no member of this Court has ever suggested that the Ninth Amendment meant anything else, and the idea that a federal court could ever use the Ninth Amendment to annul a law passed by the elected representatives of the people of the State of Connecticut would have caused James Madison no little wonder


by checkraisdraw k

Yep. Luckily if this happens I live in a non-insane state, and people will probably be coming here in droves once they realize that the CA constitution is much preferable to the Texas constitution.

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literally the opposite happened in recent years.

more than 100k people in 2020 alone


by Luciom k

literally the opposite happened in recent years.

more than 100k people in 2020 alone

I’m saying contingent on the destruction of cooperative federalism and a return to more state control of social issues. Once Texas starts banning gay marriage, abortion, or even some counties become sundown towns/etc I think the trends will change.


by Rococo k

A super narrow construction of the Commerce Clause would affect damn near everything (including what you mentioned).

yes that's the endgame. I really hope we reach that.

the dismantling of the federal regulatory state, we go back to the land of the free and the brave and real states rights.


by master3004 k

Good ole Mets. Can always count on you to never stop Metsing.

How was that NLCS btw?

Good old master

Anyone who has an opinion on him let's call him names 😀


by checkraisdraw k

I’m saying contingent on the destruction of cooperative federalism and a return to more state control of social issues. Once Texas starts banning gay marriage, abortion, or even some counties become sundown towns/etc I think the trends will change.

if Texas bans gay marriage (and hobergefelles is reversed ofc, as it should per Scalia dissent) then they'll price the price (whatever it will be).

abortion is already strictly regulated there, did that cause mass emigration?


by Luciom k

if Texas bans gay marriage (and hobergefelles is reversed ofc, as it should per Scalia dissent) then they'll price the price (whatever it will be).

abortion is already strictly regulated there, did that cause mass emigration?

seems like there are people that move from texas to ca and vice versa.

it’s hard because there doesn’t seem to be good data looking at year over year emigration trends out of texas or the reasons why people move.

the reasons why people move out of CA are obvious though, which is cost of living.

again this is all predicated on a much larger difference in social issues. many people immigrated out of the south to north and western states because of the problems of segregation, for instance. I can imagine that would also happen if such a change happened again.


by master3004 k

Do you know what form those hundreds of billions of dollars was sent as?

Do you think it was cash?

Does it even matter? It's done with the touch of a key stroke. Obama sent cargo plane loads of literal cash to the middle east when he was president and the corrupt bought off and controlled MSM never even questioned it because they're all on the same team. Obama wasn't even qualified to be president he wasn't born in the United States. His birth certificate was proven to be fake which was pretty easy to determine, it was clear that there were digital layers on it and proven to be created digitally and Trump only stopped talking about it for one reason and that was because people were literally getting killed for talking bout it.

They control all digital media (which was their plan for 20 years) so they shut people up for talking about anything they don't want people to talk about such as election statistical anomalies that no one can explain such as there sharp rises for only one candidate of about 10K votes in many different races (like what happened to Trump in 2020 at 3am), it's just like picking up a shuffled deck of cards and spading it and it's in perfect order. That's probably close to the same odds. And not only that, but every one of those anomalies favored the democrats. You're all degenerate gamblers on here, please tell me how lucky is that? It's like winning a BBJ on every hand in a 4 hour session!



Is that the graph of a dumbbell?

Race car?

What?


by Playbig2000 k

Does it even matter? It's done with the touch of a key stroke. Obama sent cargo plane loads of literal cash to the middle east when he was president and the corrupt bought off and controlled MSM never even questioned it because they're all on the same team. Obama wasn't even qualified to be president he wasn't born in the United States. His birth certificate was proven to be fake which was pretty easy to determine, it was clear that there were digital layers on it and proven to be created digita

do you see the red line having a little dump as well at the same time? that's because a dump of mail votes skewing blue dramatically just arrived.

why did mail vote skew dramatically blue in 2020 you ask? because those people were scared to death of the Chinese cold and didn't want to risk "mingling with people" you know what I mean?


by Tom Ames k

Is that the graph of a dumbbell?

Race car?

What?

vote counts through time before all votes were counted


by Tom Ames k

Is that the graph of a dumbbell?

Race car?

What?

That was the last governor race in MI.


by Luciom k

do you see the red line having a little dump as well at the same time? that's because a dump of mail votes skewing blue dramatically just arrived.

why did mail vote skew dramatically blue in 2020 you ask? because those people were scared to death of the Chinese cold and didn't want to risk "mingling with people" you know what I mean?

This was 2022 there weren't that many mail in ballots like we had in Covid that needed to be counted. The examples from 2020 are much bigger swings. They're all in the documentary "Absolute Proof". They can probably still be found online somewhere outside of google.


by Playbig2000 k

This was 2022 there weren't that many mail in ballots like we had in Covid that needed to be counted. The examples from 2020 are much bigger swings. They're all in the documentary "Absolute Proof". They can probably still be found online somewhere outside of google.

in 2022 they were waiting for the fifth dose or whatever while triple masking doing their daily 3 minutes on the peloton they paid 6k for because omegacomicrongamma variant was around


by Luciom k

in 2022 they were waiting for the fifth dose or whatever while triple masking doing their daily 3 minutes on the peloton they paid 6k for because omegacomicrongamma variant was around

Those jumps don't happen randomly and that quick. That's what the lawyers and analysts who are experts are saying, it's not just me.


by Playbig2000 k

Those jumps don't happen randomly and that quick. That's what the lawyers and analysts who are experts are saying, it's not just me.

they do when it's votes all counted together then dumped into the total.

ofc it didn't happen to the same extent before because there was no Chinese cold around and voting by mail wasn't that big especially in the "blue wall" area


I predict it will become defined by some some currently unknown big event and the response to it


1. Ukraine is ****ed
2. Gaza is ****ed. Palestine bros never saw this coming. Still find a way to blame biden for GeNoCiDe
3. Trump initiates the mass deportation plan. Underestimates how absurdly difficult and how costly it is and abandons it quickly after some people are deported and claims a massive victory
4. Israel attacks Iran more decisively with Trump’s support
5. Crypto to the moon
5a. More tragic attempts by trump to pretend he gets crypto
6. China becomes the international power due to the vacuum created by American isolationism
7. Stocks boom because of corporate tax cuts and regulations being obliterated. Lower class gets lower but are happy about it cuz MAGA
8. I get richer (by probably a lot to be completely honest) but remain bitter
9. A national abortion ban never reaches his desk cuz any idiot knows even if they pass it and trump vetoes the Dems obliterate the midterms knowing it’s on the table
10. Aileen Cannon becomes a SCOTUS Justice after one of Alito or Black White Supremacist retires


fix 8), it's all within yourself, and enjoy the party.

the world belongs to the western upper middle class and we are going to take it all and keep it.

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