Israel/Palestine thread
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? there is a game today here , basketball, our town team vs an Israeli one.
Given what happened in Amsterdam stuff happened.
Didn't know basketball was big in Italy. I kind of assumed it would be big in Israel because it's just USA in the ME.
Do many Israeli fans usually travel to this away game?
Can anyone translate what the fans are chanting?
Let the IDF win and f%^k the arabs.
that is a ******ed chant, but they are not chanting the other chants claimed in the post.
Either way, its disgusting by itself.
Didn't know basketball was big in Italy. Do many Israeli fans usually travel to this away game?
Not that big in Italy but very big in Bologna specifically. No clue how many people come here to watch a low level international game.
Stadium for basketball has 13k seats iirc, pretty decent one here.
wowww a whole bunch of collective punishment justification in here today. SICK STUFF
i am very glad that israelis on the whole dont think like this, else there could've been a genocide in gaza after oct 7
qft
unfortunately there are some people who do think like this. There are also plenty who conflate Israeli with jew and Hamis member with muslim.
Didn't know basketball was big in Italy. I kind of assumed it would be big in Israel because it's just USA in the ME.
Do many Israeli fans usually travel to this away game?
you know nothing about the world, that is a big part of the problem.
Basketball is big in Europe and has been for decades. you could have guessed by all the NBA players from there.
It is pretty big in Israel, but not close to Soccer/Football. explain why this game is big with your RCT theories.
I don't give a flying **** if they are jewish or not
It's still a protest about the existence of a safe haven for Jews. Period.
That’s also just an assumption. This could also be a (an inappropriate one) reaction to the war or (also inappropriate) perceived provocation by the Israeli fans. You also did frame this as a pogrom against Jews before.
Yes another true meme
That’s also just an assumption. This could also be a (an inappropriate one) reaction to the war or (also inappropriate) perceived provocation by the Israeli fans. You also did frame this as a pogrom against Jews before.
It is
If you helped Jews during the nazi regime you were treated as a Jew
you know nothing about the world, that is a big part of the problem.
Basketball is big in Europe and has been for decades. you could have guessed by all the NBA players from there.
It is pretty big in Israel, but not close to Soccer/Football. explain why this game is big with your RCT theories.
idk anything about basketball, I agree. 😃
No I can't. Im like that. I dont believe words should incite violence, as veil as they may be. But that is me and my Neanderthal cloture.
I asked you previously, if this excuses violence, why when Muslim chant kill Israel and death to Jews, aren't we excused?
No I can't. Im like that. I dont believe words should incite violence, as veil as they may be. But that is me and my Neanderthal cloture.
I asked you previously, if this excuses violence, why when Muslim chant kill Israel and death to Jews, aren't we excused?
Did you not read my reply to you earlier, which I even reposted for you?
you ignored my question. you summarized that basketball is big in Israel as we are an extension of the USA.
I asked you why is soccer even bigger?
Im serious, I really want to understand how CRT renationalize everything.
Didn't see your football question but happy to talk about it.
Football is a popular sport in most countries of the world, and often the most popular. Not sure why you keep bringing CRT into everything. Weird.
Taking control of land and expelling the civilian population is what makes it ethnic cleansing.
No. Having lost the war they have lost the land. That is not ethnic cleansing. That is the standard consequences of starting and losing a war. When Arab countries originally attacked Israel after its creation do you think they were intending on letting the Israeli's keep their land? No. They were intending on keeping it. Why should this be any different?
As an aside, when all the surrounding Arab countries expelled their entire Jewish populations THAT was ethnic cleansing. I don't hear too much concern from you about that...
No I can't. Im like that. I dont believe words should incite violence, as veil as they may be. But that is me and my Neanderthal cloture.
I asked you previously, if this excuses violence, why when Muslim chant kill Israel and death to Jews, aren't we excused?
Ok, this is the third and final time I'm going to try this with you.
Although I hope I wouldn't have reacted violently, the people who had their Palestine flags removed and Islamophobic chants shouted at them had a right imo to get into a hand fight with the instigators and only the instigators.
If any random Israeli football fans were sought and attacked in retribution that, of course, is abhorrent.
Is that clear enough?
why can you call anti Gaza chants islamophobic , if anti Israeli events aren't automatically antisemites?
maybe they had nothing against Muslims, maybe they just hated Gaza
Ok, this is the third and final time I'm going to try this with you.
Although I hope I wouldn't have reacted violently, the people who had their Palestine flags removed and Islamophobic chants shouted at them had a right imo to get violent with the instigators and only the instigators.
If any random Israeli football fans were sought and attacked in retribution that, of course, is abhorrent.
Is that clear enough?
I understood the first time. Really just wanted you to repost that for posterity.
Rationalizing violence because of chants... (as if that was the motive) ... you are clearly deranged.
I understand. I had a family member sent to a camp because they were a doctor that treated Jews. I’m very proud of that.
Nevertheless, attacking a group of fans of a team attached to a national identity doesn’t mean the motivation is antisemitism or a rejection of Israel as a legitimate state rather than anger at the actions of that state. I think it’s pretty dangerous to reinforce the flawed belief of antisemites that the state of Israel and Jewishness are indistinguishable.
I understood the first time. Really just wanted you to repost that for posterity.
Rationalizing violence because of chants... (as if that was the motive) ... you are clearly deranged.
I edited my post to make it clearer that I was talking about face to face hand fights, not ****ing rocket launches.
