2024 ELECTION THREAD
The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?
It was a very good campaign. He was massively outspent and still crushed. That should be kind of a silver line for everyone. Being able to go on a podcast, act like a human and express your ideas is worth more than a massive amount of TV ads funded by special interests. If that's the new way, it's good for 99% of us.
Trump wasn't even that good at it, by most accounts. But was at least willing to do it. Vance is very good at it.
But this also correlates with another thing. Outside of old, UM
Which year did you dad graduate?
It was a very good campaign. He was massively outspent and still crushed. That should be kind of a silver line for everyone. Being able to go on a podcast, act like a human and express your ideas is worth more than a massive amount of TV ads funded by special interests. If that's the new way, it's good for 99% of us.
Trump wasn't even that good at it, by most accounts. But was at least willing to do it. Vance is very good at it.
But this also correlates with another thing. Outside of old, UM
People talk about this problem all the time, the problem is people don’t get what the solution would be which is deregulating homes and stop the demonization of developers. Regulation on home building/renovation is one of those “sounds good on paper, horrible in practice” issues like the war on drugs.
People talk about this problem all the time, the problem is people don’t get what the solution would be which is deregulating homes and stop the demonization of developers. Regulation on home building/renovation is one of those “sounds good on paper, horrible in practice” issues like the war on drugs.
While that would help, newcomers to housing markets would still live in bum****-nowhere unless your plan is to allow high rising condos in place of suburbs in which case everyone currently owning a home and living a decent life (=the majority of american households) would be insanely worse off because of impossibly worse traffic with absolutely nothing in return compared to now.
To make it easier to new buyers you have to make it worse for existing owners, that's the reality of the game. There is a fixed amount of place to live the american dream of an independent house with a not-insane commute to good jobs, in a good neighborhood with services.
And that place is all full. Can build more on the outskirt of that with a surd commutes or can increase density making it worse for all existing owners.
Why should they sacrifice anything so that the tiny slice of people who have to join the club every year could have it better?
It's not like drug wars where everyone loses.
There are groups that would massively gain and groups that would massively lose and the latter have more assets and political power.
All 20k for homebuyers would do is make the price of homes go up ~20k.
Harris plan was 10k for first time homebuyers, 25k for first time homebuyers, if your parents don't own a house in the USA.
She also proposed to " build 3 million homes " and to "stop wall street from buying residential property".
It didn't go un-noticed that giving more if your parents don't own a home in the USA predominantly helps foreign born people, but we are supposed to deny democrats explicitly put foreigners above Americans.
Harris plan was 10k for first time homebuyers, 25k for first time homebuyers, if your parents don't own a house in the USA.
She also proposed to " build 3 million homes " and to "stop wall street from buying residential property".
It didn't go un-noticed that giving more if your parents don't own a home in the USA predominantly helps foreign born people, but we are supposed to deny democrats explicitly put foreigners above Americans.
Stopping corporate interests from buying up residential property is a good thing. As for people trying to buy a home, lowering the interest rate is far better than a couple of bucks toward a home purchase.
Obama getting nearly 700 electoral votes across 2 elections is probably the single greatest feat in all of first world politics
Yeah and if we want to talk innovations, Obama’s canvassing operations and social media game are still the blueprint for how to win elections. Trump added… podcasts to it. Which Clinton already kinda did when he did his famous saxophone solo on the Tonight Show.
It was a very good campaign. He was massively outspent and still crushed. That should be kind of a silver line for everyone. Being able to go on a podcast, act like a human and express your ideas is worth more than a massive amount of TV ads funded by special interests. If that's the new way, it's good for 99% of us.
Trump wasn't even that good at it, by most accounts. But was at least willing to do it. Vance is very good at it.
But this also correlates with another thing. Outside of old, UM
As a Peter Thiel minion Vance would be well versed in Blackrock not being the problem but it sure sounds great to morons
Harris plan was 10k for first time homebuyers, 25k for first time homebuyers, if your parents don't own a house in the USA.
She also proposed to " build 3 million homes " and to "stop wall street from buying residential property".
It didn't go un-noticed that giving more if your parents don't own a home in the USA predominantly helps foreign born people, but we are supposed to deny democrats explicitly put foreigners above Americans.
Yeah I know I was correcting him on the everyone gets gimmes aspect of it, which would be much more inflationary.
Anyway I think it was a bad idea in the first place even with the qualifications.
Also I’m pretty sure that other aspect you were talking about was so that it would disproportionately help Black people who tend to own homes less frequently. Which is still cringe but for different reasons.
Yeah and if we want to talk innovations, Obama’s canvassing operations and social media game are still the blueprint for how to win elections. Trump added… podcasts to it. Which Clinton already kinda did when he did his famous saxophone solo on the Tonight Show.
I think Bernie would get credit if we are trying to pinpoint the first politician to farm the podcast circuit but gotta give the gargoyle credit for being willing to do it.
Its not exactly a brain buster that you go on the podcast that gets more views and listens than any TV show in the country with a host who is ready to suck you off for 3 hours straight
ultimately I don't think the podcasts did anything. they ran an incredibly effective propaganda and misinformation bombardment that also included the podcasts I guess. All the podcast listeners were primed and ready to go from the effective campaigns well before Trump went on a single pod
yeah totally guys, podcasts got trump from ~74,223,975 votes to ~75,442,011 votes. incredible, they did it
yeah totally guys, podcasts got trump from ~74,223,975 votes to ~75,442,011 votes. incredible, they did it
I'm about 95% sure we are going to find out Trumps base didn't shift significantly outside of the latino vote and that its basically apathetic voters who were motivated last election and didn't see a significant enough change to get motivated again and that everything else was basically at the margins across a wide berth of people who only care about inflation
I'm about 95% sure we are going to find out Trumps base didn't shift significantly outside of the latino vote and that its basically apathetic voters who were motivated last election and didn't see a significant enough change to get motivated again and that everything else was basically at the margins across a wide berth of people who only care about inflation
He gained massively among under30 men.
And turnout was very close to 2020 (they are still counting votes remember).
Yeah I know I was correcting him on the everyone gets gimmes aspect of it, which would be much more inflationary.
Anyway I think it was a bad idea in the first place even with the qualifications.
Also I’m pretty sure that other aspect you were talking about was so that it would disproportionately help Black people who tend to own homes less frequently. Which is still cringe but for different reasons.
It would have helped blacks more than other ethnic groups of Americans yes, but foreign born people (including non citizens) even more than them.
Which is almost exactly how democrats act priority wise.
WI, MI, & PA have gone the same way since 92 election. Trump always had to win one of these 3 for an EC victory. If you win one you’ll win all 3 as things have gone that way since 92. If Harris wins all 3 (it was close in all 3), she wins an EC victory, 270-268. Trump barely won all 3 in 2016, barely lost all 3 in 2020. POTUS elections are determined currently in how candidates do in these 3 states. It will be that way in 2028 as well.
Kato’s point still stands. So homes don’t go up 20k but they still go up significantly due to the handout.
It is no coincidence that the 3 industries that consistently outpace inflation are the 3 industries that the govt works the hardest to make more affordable - health care, housing and higher education.
Kato’s point still stands. So homes don’t go up 20k but they still go up significantly due to the handout.
It is no coincidence that the 3 industries that consistently outpace inflation are the 3 industries that the govt works the hardest to make more affordable - health care, housing and higher education.
And those are the industries dominated by democrats.
Basically democrats ARE THE MAIN SOURCE of inflation.
They were with unions for a long while and they are with the white collar unproductive parasitic bureaucratic class they represent today.
