Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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by mongidig k

these are soccer nut bags. Who cares if they were being disrespectful to Spain. Spain recognized "Palestine". I don't blame their anger.

The Spanish PM and other members of his cabinet are being investigated for levels of corruption that would make Trump and Netanyahu blush. I suspect a lot of the antisemitism of this govt is more or less wagging the dog to distract from their own legal issues.


"give us back the hostages "

as the 250th thousand Palestinian civilian gets killed.


they offered the hostages back on day 1 lol.


by MyrnaFTW k

"give us back the hostages "

as the 250th thousand Palestinian civilian gets killed.

They should probably give back the hostages.


I doubt Bibi would take them


by Dunyain k

They should probably give back the hostages.

the 250 hostage excuse has been used to kill 25000 , just keep the multiplier going is the strategy .


by corpus vile k

As I said, their methods can be critiqued especially considering the humanitarian cost, and can be supported without being blindly supported. We essentially agree with each other in this regard. My point was that they didn't actually kick off this current round and they're fighting an enemy that launches attacks from civilian heavily populated areas and that needs to be recognised also, even if nobody wishes to or likes seeing civilians being killed. They need to try and keep civilian casualties

yeah, I think we broadly agree on the main points - that Israel has a right to defend herself, that Hamad effectively declared war in Israel on 10/7 and they had to expect a huge over-reaction, if nothing else so Israel deters any future such attack.

I don't think anyone really knows the reality of the situation on the ground, so whether Israel has broken international law and/or committed war crimes is a matter for the intentional courts. The overall point I am making is it looks more and more likely that they are guilty. However, considering Iran and it's silos are an existential threat, then self-preservation>>>>>>>international appeasement.


by Victor k

they offered the hostages back on day 1 lol.

Offered them in exchange for what?


by MyrnaFTW k

the 250 hostage excuse has been used to kill 25000 , just keep the multiplier going is the strategy .

Hamas should give back the hostages.


by MyrnaFTW k

the 250 hostage excuse has been used to kill 25000 , just keep the multiplier going is the strategy .

Again, they should probably give back the hostages.

Libs and terrorists just need to face up to the fact that hostage taking isn't what it used to be. It's not 1972 anymore.


by Elrazor k

Offered them in exchange for what?

Marching into the ovens.


by Dunyain k

Elon Musk Reportedly Met With Iran’s UN Ambassador
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohann...

--Between running all his companies, planning Mars trips, and playing video games you would think Elon has enough on his plate. But apparently he has time to squeeze in working on brining peace to the Middle East. I wish him luck.

Not that Elon knows what he's doing, but I bet the Iranians yearn for the days of Jimmy Carter.


by Elrazor k

Offered them in exchange for what?

to not get genocided. Israeli media has reported extensively on the early Oct offers.


by Victor k

to not get genocided. Israeli media has reported extensively on the early Oct offers.

So Hamas has carte blanch to nip over the border any time they choose, massacre a few thousand Jews, take a few hostages, swap them for a ceasefire, rinse and repeat till there are no more Jews.


by Dunyain k

The Spanish PM and other members of his cabinet are being investigated for levels of corruption that would make Trump and Netanyahu blush. I suspect a lot of the antisemitism of this govt is more or less wagging the dog to distract from their own legal issues.

You realise every time you throw around accusations of antisemitism at people who have nothing to do with it you strengthen the actual antisemites?


by mongidig k

This is good news. The sooner Israel can completely wipe out Hamas and Hezbollah the sooner these wars will be over. I have a trip planned to Israel in two years. I was supposed to go this last summer but the Jihadists ruined it for me. I hope Trump starts to send them the big munitions to speed this thing up.

I hope the genocide can be completed in good haste now because I’m planning a trip to the area in a couple of years and would like a peaceful visit to Gaza.


--I suspect it is mostly wishful thinking that the people of Lebanon are standing up to Hezbollah and IRI's imperialism over their country. But hopefully it is a real thing.


by Elrazor k

So Hamas has carte blanch to nip over the border any time they choose, massacre a few thousand Jews, take a few hostages, swap them for a ceasefire, rinse and repeat till there are no more Jews.

Wow you have an even lower opinion of the IDF than I do. It seems like they should be able to prevent a militant group a fraction of their size and far less well equipped from destroying Israel.


by Elrazor k

So Hamas has carte blanch to nip over the border any time they choose, massacre a few thousand Jews, take a few hostages, swap them for a ceasefire, rinse and repeat till there are no more Jews.

Hopeless.

8,000,000 / 1,200 > 6,000 attacks

Meanwhile in Gaza ~100,000 dead from a population of 2,000,000


by whackmaster k

Wow you have an even lower opinion of the IDF than I do. It seems like they should be able to prevent a militant group a fraction of their size and far less well equipped from destroying Israel.

It would seem they are able to. I dont predict Hamas destroying Israel anytime soon.


One of the buildings destroyed in October.


by whackmaster k

Wow you have an even lower opinion of the IDF than I do. It seems like they should be able to prevent a militant group a fraction of their size and far less well equipped from destroying Israel.

That's exactly what the IDF is doing now.


It seems like Trump is looking to ban anti-zionism from universities and remove accreditation from schools that don’t enforce such a policy.


sweet twitter account


by Victor k

sweet twitter account

Victor you know you can admit you were wrong that things can’t get worse for Palestinians. No one will hold it against you.

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