2024 ELECTION THREAD

Nope but that is not what were talking about .

I wonder why she didn't. Undoubtedly because (a) US elections aren't rigged and (b) she's not a severely damaged malignant narcissist who can't take a beating, like Trump.

Fortunately Trump and his supporters recognize that as VicePresident, she has the power to refuse certification of the 2024 election.

not anymore, the law was amended clarifying VP role is purely cerimonial

lol nice way to put it ….
Like huge majority already knew and it didn’t need clarifying .
I guess it needed clarification for preventing those that like to use bad faith arguments to do illegal stuff …

2:1 was a guess based on Clinton getting over 60% of the college grad major party vote and 70% of the post grad major party vote. If people consider STEM degrees closer to graduate degrees in terms of rigor, amd their is some causation/correlation there it's not an unreasonable guess. As for STEM vs non STEM, over half of non STEM degrees are business or health related services..... which many good schools don't even offer. So I definitely am not sure non STEM degrees are less Trumpy much less massively so.

Ok, if this assumption doesn't hold then the whole argument falls apart.

Maybe there should be a cabinet pick thread?

I wouldn't mind a deeper dive to understand why people like Tulsi would be considered viable, when she regurgitated Russian propaganda that had no other reasonable explanation to it, other than she has to be a Russian asset. She sold herself, like a lot of these foreign assets do, as a "peace candidate", and then said w/ zero evidence that Ukraine was housing bioweapon labs? I mean come on... and to be director of national intelligence? This is such a bad movie plot.

Swarmy Vivek, clearly ran a pharma scam on investors. He lied in shareholder meetings about the viability of his Alzheimer's drug while selling off his stock. Probes couldn't conclusively prove anything and investors couldn't conclusively prove he knew he was selling snake oil, but again... come on. This guy is going to gut the powers that attempted to keep him in check.

Gaetz, we have conservatives screaming about immigration reform because young women are being turned into sex slaves at the border, and you want an AG that was flying teens across state lines to sex and drug parties?

Hegseth with his white Christian nationalist tats, heading the military?

Each of them needs a deep dive imho because these people will be molding the US for years, decades to come.

These are the days that I'd just like to have good ol' conservative corruption of the past that included kickbacks to influential friends, tax cuts for your buddies, and deregulation that pollutes some streams. How can we get that conservative party back?

You know your country is fkd when Dick Cheney and Bolton start sounding reasonable.

open the thread but title it "radical leftist conspiracy theories about Trump picks"

You know how great the perception of pharma are with maga !
All to logical to have Vivek nominated ….

Ps: do I really have to mention sarcasm for many ?

No, I'd rather have a fact based discussion.

Can you name some leftish that aren’t radical or it just doesn’t exist ?

Don't think so, but conservatives often don't get sarcasm.

I know they hate vaccines since covid... but there's no concern about his past obvious fraud? I just don't get all this tribe only cheerleading, and hate just explaining it off as cult thinking.

I definitely don't trust Gabbard in the sense that I don't think she's some sort of genuine person fighting for what she thinks is best-- but there doesn't seem to be any reason to actually think that she's a Russian asset.

Vivek has libertarian instincts and talk and attitude.

that's the best political attitude to have in government. recognizing gvmnt is today the source of most societal problems and the solution to very few of them.

his role will be in reducing government size and scope.

problems with him will be that there isn't much "DOGE" can do in actuality. but anything they do will be better than nothing.

he could have killed 40 babies in their cribs as a hobby in a past life and that wouldn't change the above at all so why should we care in the slightest about his moral character? we want results which from Vivek will be measured in fired federal employees, closed branched of the executive, cuts to any project in any department, he can cut everything except deportation efforts and we are fine, even if he cut at random it would be a lot better than today.

we want people to hate working for the government. we want to destroy the foundations of "civil service", the fabric of the administrative state, in a way that when democrats win back power there is nothing to build upon and they would need decades to get back at where they were at currently.

Carthago delenda est mentality. no prisoners taken. "afuera" strategy.

we need the most cynic people with 0 morals outside of achieving the goal they set for themselves in the roles.

selfish ruthless bastards that hate the state as a personal enemy.

Vivek might be one of them. the past history you cite is a bonus for the role needed.

ofc we can't be sure yet. will be judged on results like everyone else.

So the way pharma operates with people like Vivek in charges isn’t a concern despite all the fake news like rfk like to push towards pharma ?

Like trump running previously against Wall Street to help regular people and how many billionaires you have now in trump cabinet ?

many, like you.

if you want names in government, Steimer isn't a radical for a lot of things. in the USA, Biden isn't a radical for a lot of things.

Schumer isn't either.

Actually, let me throw a related question out. Just like in the 40's, when Germany had congressional US assets (they had at least 10 confirmed), one of the most famous being Lundeen, I think it's safe to assume Russia has congressional assets as well. Who are the most likely suspects?

This is wrong obviously. 100% of American Fields Medalists ARE men and you should bet your net worth that they vote Trump at a rate less than women.

That wasn't the justification that Putin used to invade Ukraine-- the justification was that Ukraine was attacking ethnic Russians.

But beyond that I don't know. Are we sure that there were no bioweapons labs?

I'm just curious... have you read any history books before?

When people tear down institutions... what typically forms in its place?

i am not on team "big pharma is bad". I am on team pragmatic libertarian.

I am not against billionaires either.

to win elections you need a lot of dumb people voting for you (that works for both parties), and whatever you say to get their votes is fair game.

then you are judged on results. and for me the less government there is in society the better society is (up to a point that the USA passed like 140 years ago)

It was part of the justification. Maybe I should have stated that more clearly. But let's say it was zero part of the justification. Why parrot that talking point unless you had absolute concert proof? Who are you serving at that point? <--- this is what I'd like answered. Whose interest?

There's been no evidence there's bioweapon labs, unless you have something I haven't seen... please share.

Yeah, Luciom seems to be stubbornly refusing to get this point. I'm obviously not using the right technical language, but obviously "being a fields medalist" criterion overrides the "being male" criterion.

I suspect that as a general rule, the more your criterion pares down the subgroup, the more weight it should be given. If 50% of the population are men but only 0.0005% or whatever are fields medalists, obviously that is a lot more specific and should be the overriding factor.

the only real conspiracy theory he mentioned was the absurd "Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian asset insanity". and that is most certainly not a position the "radical left" agrees with. if anything Gabbard is an asset of American intelligence.