Trump 2nd term prediction thread
So, looks like Trump not only smashed the electoral college, but is looking on track to win the popular vote, which seems to be an unexpected turn of events, but a clear sign of the current temperature in the country and perhaps the wider world.
Would be interested to hear views on how his 2nd term will pan out from both sides of the aisle - major happenings, what he's going to get done, what he's not going to get done, the impact of his election on the current conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza, whether his popularity will remain the same, wane, or increase, etc.
A bit of an anemic OP, I know, just interested to hear people's thoughts now that the election uncertainty is over.
Walmart sells everything that it can sell that it can make a profit upon, including stuff that republicans or democrats might find very offensive at times. Including stuff that is not very good for health at all.
So no i don't think there is something else other than federal (and local when applicable) regulations preventing them to sell raw milk.
That's cool but I didn't ever ask you what you think.
Hm argh i see how the moderation was, so it was already risky (although you allowed it) to publish commentary without banned content from someone who elsewhere in the past had published racist commentary.
Anyway k he has a past you can't tolerate even if today he is a bit to the left of the republican party
My views on him don't have anything to do with where he falls generally on a left/right spectrum.
Yes doctors are both in bad faith, defending wrong claim, for as long as they feel comfortable doing s, and then become fascist crusaders banning behaviour when the evidence is excessively on the other side.
So they manage to be terrible in both timeframes, when the only proper way to deal with public health claims is with moderation, prudence, and adherence to the fact it's really hard to be sure of something, which is why almost nothing should be banned for adults, nor crusaded against.
Doctors
The people who really strike the right chord on health stuff are randos on the internet. 🙄
All 50 states allow raw milk to be sold afaik, which is why it's completly absurd to have a federal law/regulation banning interstate sale of the same good, no matter what someone thinks of raw milk.
It's actually insane that the federal government can do that in the first place.
If anything under the commerce clause it could do the opposite, like forcing states to allow trade in that substance if most want to and a few don't. Not regulating it more than states want to , which has no constitutiona
States “allowing” the sale of raw milk does not mean that every state has made the affirmative decision to allow it after a thorough analysis of the pros and cons. It most likely means it has never been brought up at all. States don’t really have individual regulatory agencies for food products. I can’t think of any food that is banned in one state but not another except some restrictions on alcohol.
You think it would be better/more efficient for every state to have to make their own rule about products that get distributed nationally? How are the crunchy CA wokesters going to make sure that their raw milk is being produced how they like it by the real American farmers in Iowa?
I have never heard of raw milk until a week ago, but from quick googling the reason for that ban is probably because there are concerns with long term storage and transportation of an unpasteurized dairy product. So rather then make some lengthy and detailed rule about how this stuff is produced/stored/transported, they use the transport ban as a proxy to generally keep it a local product.
I am not saying that everything in the world needs a federal regulation, but the general idea that “well if each individual state doesn’t have a law about then it must be fine” is a bad argument.
What I do know is putting a brain-addled imbecile like RFK Jr is this position is really just asking for trouble. A guy running a podcast saying whatever dumb **** he wanted is dangerous and unfortunate, but when we're talking someone responsible for policy there's not really any excuse here. It's just a bad decision by Trump, one of several with his appointments so far, and not really one he had to make.
Surely adding Dr. Phil to the mix will have you changing your tune.
Is that juiceman guy still alive?
I guess it was "afaik" because you truly were just guessing?
I guess it was "afaik" because you truly were just guessing?
No because I checked only and the claim was all states allow it although many don't in grocery stores. Btw in your map only 1 state expressingly prohibits it in all forms (LA).
But they legalized it in 2024 so...
EDIT a different source that looks very detailed says Wisconsin, Kentucky and NJ have outlawed it
Just lol. I am starting to think Luciom and Playbig are the same poster.
And then the ninja edits after being caught and then researching the factoid. Now explain to us again how Walmart would be able to sell raw milk at the retail level? Do they own the farms or a herd share?
No because I checked only and the claim was all states allow it although many don't in grocery stores. Btw in your map only 1 state expressingly prohibits it in all forms (LA).
But they legalized it in 2024 so...
EDIT a different source that looks very detailed says Wisconsin, Kentucky and NJ have outlawed it
You didn't even read your own raw milk advocacy source correctly. According to that source, it was a lot more states than you listed above, and it was heavily restricted in many, many others.
You didn't even read your own raw milk advocacy source correctly. According to that source, it was a lot more states than you listed above, and it was heavily restricted in many, many others.
As i said that's another source i checked after you posted yours.
Originally i just googled "where is raw milk legal in the us" and the snippet was "The process of selling raw milk is legal in all 50 states of the United States. The process of making this milk available to the public differs, however, and various jurisdictions have dictated the way consumers can get their raw milk fix."
My bad to trust google at all i guess
Luciom's track record for reading his own sources is... somewhat blemished. I won't soon forget the "study" he linked for chat bots having a left wing bias. That is going to keep me laughing all winter.
Joking aside, I have no idea what you're even referring to. Not something I've ever been accused of before.
Which is exactly why I told you (Luciom) the other day to source all your facts. You completely lack credibility.
Originally i just googled "where is raw milk legal in the us" and the snippet was "The process of selling raw milk is legal in all 50 states of the United States. The process of making this milk available to the public differs, however, and various jurisdictions have dictated the way consumers can get their raw milk fix."
I just typed your exact search into Google. The only thing close to what you posted was something that said drinking raw milk was legal in all 50 states, which of course is irrelevant to the question of whether it is legal to sell raw milk for human consumption in all 50 states. There are a millions things that you can drink legally but which you cannot legally sell for the purpose of human consumption.
Walmart sells everything that it can sell that it can make a profit upon, including stuff that republicans or democrats might find very offensive at times. Including stuff that is not very good for health at all.
So no i don't think there is something else other than federal (and local when applicable) regulations preventing them to sell raw milk.
Apparently, you don't realize that each Walmart store has an individual product lineup.
I just typed your exact search into Google. The only thing close to what you posted was something that said drinking raw milk was legal in all 50 states, which of course is irrelevant to the question of whether it is legal to sell raw milk for human consumption in all 50 states. There are a millions things that you can drink legally but which you cannot legally sell for the purpose of human consumption.
Funny, I did the same thing and didn't come up with his quoted answer either.....
Luciom's track record for reading his own sources is... somewhat blemished. I won't soon forget the "study" he linked for chat bots having a left wing bias. That is going to keep me laughing all winter.
Please periodically remind me of that. I had already forgotten and I never want that to happen.
Luciom quickly discovering why I said nothing at all about regulations or whether it was allowed.
lololol
As i said that's another source i checked after you posted yours.
Originally i just googled "where is raw milk legal in the us" and the snippet was "The process of selling raw milk is legal in all 50 states of the United States. The process of making this milk available to the public differs, however, and various jurisdictions have dictated the way consumers can get their raw milk fix."
My bad to trust google at all i guess
there is some pretty funny irony in your postings today , after telling your soulmate this
I don't know why you can't simply check EMA itself and you feel like checking Wikipedia
Why would anyone check on wikipedia when they can just read the snippet.
there is some pretty funny irony in your postings today , after telling your soulmate this
Why would anyone check on wikipedia when they can just read the snippet.
because i didn't know beforehand any proper source of information for the legality of raw milk state-by-state to go and check directly. Even the CDC source from rococo is outdated.
While BJ claimed the EMA said X through wikipedia and i told him to just check what the EMA says if he wants to make claims about EMA statements.
But i mean, you are bad faith arguing every time you can with me so have fun with nonsense like this
I just typed your exact search into Google. The only thing close to what you posted was something that said drinking raw milk was legal in all 50 states, which of course is irrelevant to the question of whether it is legal to sell raw milk for human consumption in all 50 states. There are a millions things that you can drink legally but which you cannot legally sell for the purpose of human consumption.
This was my first search