Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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by metsandfinsfan k

They went to a music festival with the sole purpose of targeting civilians

Yeah, if a terrorist group can shoot up a music festival and a bunch of villages and still stay well bellow the 90% civilian casualty mark that you cited, then it seems the IDF achieving a sub 90% civilian kill rate is not much of an accomplishment. Which is why I was wondering what point you were trying to make when you brought up the 90% stat.


It's kind of weird that the IDF can't manage a better combatant to civilian ratio than a terrorist group that actively targeted civilians. Makes me think that the IDF might also be a terrorist group that is actively targeting civilians.


by whackmaster k

It's kind of weird that the IDF can't manage a better combatant to civilian ratio than a terrorist group that actively targeted civilians. Makes me think that the IDF might also be a terrorist group that is actively targeting civilians.

What exactly is that ratio? Do you know?


by Victor k

I thought I saw they upped it to 90 after starting to clear debris. but maybe that was a different bombing. its really hard to keep track of all of the massacres going on across 5 countries being attacked by the Israeli terrorist apartheid regime.

It's hard to keep track of made up facts. It's much easier to just speak the truth that way you don't have to keep track of anything.


by jalfrezi k

I bet they didn't. Just carry on massacring civilians because any objections are antisemitic.

What's more likely? The IDF bombed that building because it was a military target or they just wanted to kill some random citizens?


by Victor k

what does drone striking Palestinian refugee fisherman have to do with Hezbollah?

it sounds like you are saying that it is ok to murder innocent people in an attempt to impose one's will. you might call that ok. I call it terrorism.

This is alternate universe you are living in. Do you ever investigate these stories further? When I see a story that sounds like nonsense I look into it further. A lot of times stories are fed to you because they know you like this type of stuff. Anything that makes Israel look bad. Much of these stories are false or embellished or out of context. Many of the people in this forum remind me of Qanon followers. Almost a cult like following. They eat up the Hamas propaganda and have no clue how far they have drifted from reality.


by mongidig k

It's hard to keep track of made up facts. It's much easier to just speak the truth that way you don't have to keep track of anything.

I think more than 11 people died in this attack

bc I do tend to believe my lying eyes


by whackmaster k

It's kind of weird that the IDF can't manage a better combatant to civilian ratio than a terrorist group that actively targeted civilians. Makes me think that the IDF might also be a terrorist group that is actively targeting civilians.

Hamas and Hezbollah actively put women and children in harms way and claim every death is a civilian. Not that weird, if what you’re claiming is even true.


by Victor k

I think more than 11 people died in this attack

bc I do tend to believe my lying eyes

But firing missiles into another country for a year straight is just 🤗

Looks like someone whose brain was melted by social media.


by Victor k

I think more than 11 people died in this attack

bc I do tend to believe my lying eyes

So somewhere between 11 and 100 people died?


by DoyleBrunsonFan k

But firing missiles into another country for a year straight is just 🤗

Looks like someone whose brain was melted by social media.

Social media is poison!


by DoyleBrunsonFan k

But firing missiles into another country for a year straight is just 🤗

Looks like someone whose brain was melted by social media.

firing missiles at military infrastructure that is being used to commit a genocide is not just ok, but morally correct.


by mongidig k

Social media is poison!

it is poison to the mainstream narrative that our lying press and lying politicians employ. thats why they want to control it or shut it down. they dont like their crimes exposed.


Sure bud.

Anyways, wasn’t the Donald supposed to have ended the genocide by now?


Lmao that account has been posting “Israel bad” 10+ times a day, every day. If it’s a real person, they seem very unwell.


Israel is bad. you may have noticed they are on trial for genocide and their leaders have arrest warrants.


by Victor k

Israel is bad. you may have noticed they are on trial for genocide and their leaders have arrest warrants.

Besides the point. It’s the frequency and obsessiveness of their posts.


doesnt make the picture any less real.

and I think its pretty normal to obsess over the murderers that are dropping bombs on the same street as her house.


by Victor k

doesnt make the picture any less real.

and I think its pretty normal to obsess over the murderers that are dropping bombs on the same street as her house.

My bad, you’re totally right. Being glued to your phone/Twitter and posting about a singular issue every hour for months (years?) is healthy and normal behavior.


by mongidig k

What's more likely? The IDF bombed that building because it was a military target or they just wanted to kill some random citizens?

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but I mean it was a military target ie a target of the military.


by Victor k

I thought I saw they upped it to 90 after starting to clear debris. but maybe that was a different bombing. its really hard to keep track of all of the massacres going on across 5 countries being attacked by the Israeli terrorist apartheid regime.

First off. LOL. Israel is by far the least apartheid terrorist regime in the entire MENA. Also, why do you supposed of the 100+ countries in the world, Israel is attacking 5 specific ones? Oh yeah, those are the countries that are attacking Israel, forcing Israel to respond in self defense. Whereas the 100+ other countries in the world are not attacking Israel, and Israel is not defending itself against. Funny how that works.


hmm, maybe you should call up the international courts and let them know they made a mistake



Trump and Pompeo sanctioned the ICC in 2020 because of corruption
They will sanction that corrupt organization again

ICC is a joke


how many babies have Iran and Hezbollah killed Lt? how many have Israel killed?


by Victor k

Israel is bad. you may have noticed they are on trial for genocide and their leaders have arrest warrants.

You forgot Hamas. A mistaken oversight on your part, I am sure.

ICC has an abysmal record of convicting defendants of war crimes.
Their modus operandi is to routinely bring cases that have no merit (in this case Israel) and/or are they too incompetent to convict those that they accuse (Hamas).
The ICC is a bunch of useless idiots.

https://www.icc-cpi.int/cases?f%5B0%5D=a...
https://www.icc-cpi.int/cases?f%5B0%5D=i...

If I were Netanyahu I would not be worried about the ICC.
If I were Hamas I would not be worried about the ICC, I would be worried about Netanyahu.

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