UnitedHealth CEO Assassinated
The murder of UnitedHealthcare's CEO is a strange story. On the one hand, the killer obviously was taking steps to avoid getting caught. He was wearing a hoodie. He used a silencer. He clearly had an escape plan.
On the other hand, he was wearing a distinctive backpack. He may have left a food wrapper and a water bottle at the scene. And there was writing on each of the three shell casings (the words "deny," "defend," and "depose").
oh and by the way, how can some mother****ing Brit be allowed to sarcastically quip his way through a thread about an uniquely American problem?
How could you possibly understand the righteous fury that tens of millions of Americans, throughout all political tendencies, feel toward health insurance vultures?
You don't realize people are ****ed up horrifically by socialized healthcare as well?
Normalization? It's practically a guaranteed outcome when the wealth/power distribution becomes so skewed people feel they have no other choice. And entirely avoidable too but depending on the super wealthy&powerful reigning in their own greed isn't usually a safe bet. Probably why the same basic cycle has played out so many times.
Yes, entirely avoidable if not for "greed" (JFC), which is like Sweden, one of the most "equal" countries in the first world, has a very sad history of high profile political assassinations.
And ofc there were more political assassinations in the USA when "inequality" the way you guys like to measure it was a lot lower and when stock investment returns sucked, but let's go with "greed" instead of "the radical left (and some other groups) is inherently terroristical".
Entirely avoidable jfc
In the note that police (allegedly) found Mangione references doing some social engineering-- did we ever find out what that was?
The Daily show audience booed when his capture was reported, lol.
The fact that this is info that will be important in the trial that the public has not recognized. If he was wearing the exact same jacket/backpack as everyone seems to assume, then it would be a slam dunk case.
But because there are no photos of his face with the clothes the killer was wearing (the only person wearing those that those articles is a unibrow-less guy who seems to have a different nose structure), the trial is not the open and shut case that people are assuming.
This narrative would
This guy is somehow more detached from reality than PB is.
I think it is a Luckbox alt account: he is reluctant to put forth his narrative and counter narrative yet thinks there is value in the eyebrow identification sciences.
Luckbox has watched the last few conspiracy theories from the sidelines but he wants back in the action.
I think it is a Luckbox alt account: he is reluctant to put forth his narrative and counter narrative yet thinks there is value in the eyebrow identification sciences.
Luckbox has watched the last few conspiracy theories from the sidelines but he wants back in the action.
It's not likely but possible.
Didn't he insider trade to the tune of dumping $15 million of his stock? Are you equating securities fraud to an employee who uses an office printer for personal documents a couple of times a year, or steals an occasional pen from their desk, when you said everyone is flawed like he is?
but he was undeniably a caring and thoughtful person who was seen as (at times an unwelcome) change agent within his own company.
Well, arguably one could assert that he didn't care nor was being thoughtful of his employees and shareholders when he and Witty dumped their stock and ****ed them over to the tune of $25 billion.
So what criteria are you using when you say he was undeniably a caring and thoughtful person? Did you know him personally? I have never heard his name before his murder, so fill me in.
To be clear so you don't misconstrue my position: Murder under any circumstance is wrong and shouldn't be condoned or celebrated. But I don't think once a person is murdered that everyone has to pretend he was a swell guy.
yea turns out most of the internet is now 4chan
also no one seems mad at the doctors, ie the people who actually have the ability to deliver medical care and whose position can be almost universally summed up as **** you pay me
(to be clear - please dont go around shooting doctors in order to make your political points, thank you)
I think Trump normalized being able to say whatever kooky thing goes through someone's mind without shame. And of course, having your strongest supporters go to the Capitol Building and trash it, beat on cops, and chant to hang the VP without apology, seems to suggest he endorses violent measures. That will be underscored when he gets in office and pardons these people.
As for doctors, it's hard to be resentful of a doctor who trained for about 12 years to be able to do spinal surgeries, and presumably went deep into debt, to not want to operate on patients for $80 hour.
Yes, entirely avoidable if not for "greed" (JFC), which is like Sweden, one of the most "equal" countries in the first world, has a very sad history of high profile political assassinations.
And ofc there were more political assassinations in the USA when "inequality" the way you guys like to measure it was a lot lower and when stock investment returns sucked, but let's go with "greed" instead of "the radical left (and some other groups) is inherently terroristical".
Entirely avoidable jfc
This one isn't like any of the high profile political/Presidential assassinations&attempts of recent decades that I can recall. And politics is really only one part of the mix on this one--overall it's covering a bunch more ground. The target is pretty non-standard as well to try to nail it down as just a political thing.
Pelosi would've pressed a commie grandma into service if she had any brains in her head 😀
I’m not equating securities fraud to stealing office supplies. Brian hasn’t been convicted of anything, so we should let the proof come out if/when that accusation is litigated.
When I say everyone is flawed, I mean just that. I see all these internet posts celebrating his murder because he was supposedly a “bad” husband, had problems with alcohol and did wrong by his employees and shareholders (as you assert - no idea where you get $25B from). I’m saying that all of us have character flaws and Brian was no exception. But using these as a justification to celebrate his murder is deeply disturbing to me and a low that I’m saddened we have sunk to as humanity.
Didn't he insider trade to the tune of dumping $15 million of his stock? Are you equating securities fraud to an employee who uses an office printer for personal documents a couple of times a year, or steals an occasional pen from their desk, when you said everyone is flawed like he is?
Well, arguably one could assert that he didn't care nor was being thoughtful of his employees and shareholders when he and Witty dumped their stock and ****ed them over to the tune of $25 billion.
So what criter
I’m not equating securities fraud to stealing office supplies. Brian hasn’t been convicted of anything, so we should let the proof come out if/when that accusation is litigated.
When I say everyone is flawed, I mean just that. I see all these internet posts celebrating his murder because he was supposedly a “bad” husband, had problems with alcohol and did wrong by his employees and shareholders (as you assert - no idea where you get $25B from). I’m saying that all of us have character flaws
Ah, the old, "All sins are equal in the eyes of the Lord" mentality. In other words, defrauding stockholders and employees is just a character flaw, just like being stubborn is a character flaw. So do you think Luigi murdering a CEO is just a character flaw, too?
Obviously some "character flaws" are more worthy of scorn than others, particularly when they are felonious crimes, or do you think Trump grabbing women by the pussy, falsifying business records, and stealing confidential documents is a character flaw and he's undeniably a caring and thoughtful person?
$25 billion is how much all shareholders lost in aggregate when Thompson and Witty dumped their stock.
As for waiting until a conviction, this is the court of public opinion and it has a lower standard of proof than a court of law. Did you wait until Trump was convicted before you framed an opinion of him based on his accusations? Yeah, neither did I.
land of lake, before the assassination by a political ally of yours, United healthcare stock was at the all time high, so it's very hard to claim the assassinated CEO was anything but a blessing for stockholders
so be furious
the normalisation of murderous violence against political opponents, in the usa, in 2024, would be a horrible development with unpredictable consequences
i mean there's a finance guy itt cheering on luigi. doesn't seem to know what awaits him down that road
Well it’s started in school shooting and it worked great .
Now it evolved to another level in the financial sphere .
Political sphere will be next .
When you have your own president calling the other side the enemy , it tend to go that way .
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna175...
Democrats and others who have opposed or investigated him "the enemy from within" in an interview that aired Sunday, describing them as more dangerous than major foreign adversaries of the United States, including Russia and China.
Well it’s started in school shooting and it worked great .
I think political violence by the USA started a long time ago
You are going to have to tell us what you think the narrative is and what you think it should given all of the abnormal findings you have discovered. I am sure you have answers to your question that form your own narrative based on your tone. What do you think happened, did he act alone, does he have a body double?
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The black bag is clearly hanging above his waist. In the hostel pic, part of it is visible just behind the right side of his upper back. How would a duffel be visible that high up?
RE: Eyebrows... I see one picture with all light color and not speck of black between the eyes and one with a caterpillar eyebrows 5 days later. Is that not worth questioning? Wouldn't the case be a lot more straightforward if you could detect some semblance of black between the killer's eyes, rather than none at all?
I've explained my theory. There are two guys working together, and Luigi is the fall guy. The other guy is not a body double, just another white guy without a unibrow and with more northern European features. The purpose of the similar clothes is to draw attention to Luigi, a shady guy who checked into a hostel with a fake ID. The actually killer is currently scot free, and since Luigi is innocent of actually pulling the trigger, he will have a very strong case despite the evidence found on him for his murder trial. When he is acquitted, he will have to face an accessory to murder trial, but will have plausible deniability due to the fact that the clothes/backpack, while similar, are, in fact, different from the actual killer.
What's so disconnected?
Do you not agree that the case would be more of a slam dunk if the hostel/killer pics had the same clothes/backpack?
Do you not agree that the case would be more of a slam dunk if the unibrow was visible in the Starbucks pic?
Do you not agree that his "you're insulting the intelligence of the American people" line would make a lot more sense if, as someone who has the most information about the incident of anyone currently known, he is referencing a problem with the mainstream narrative?
What, exactly, do you disagree with here?
I think it is a Luckbox alt account: he is reluctant to put forth his narrative and counter narrative yet thinks there is value in the eyebrow identification sciences.
Luckbox has watched the last few conspiracy theories from the sidelines but he wants back in the action.
I think it could be Cuepee....Cuepee not really a big conspiracy person but what's being proposed isn't a standard conspiracy either.
What's so disconnected?
Do you not agree that the case would be more of a slam dunk if the hostel/killer pics had the same clothes/backpack?
Do you not agree that the case would be more of a slam dunk if the unibrow was visible in the Starbucks pic?
Do you not agree that his "you're insulting the intelligence of the American people" line would make a lot more sense if, as someone who has the most information about the incident of anyone currently known, he is referencing a problem with the mainst
I'll bet you were one of those guys looking at the 720p video of Ahmaud Arbery running, and claiming he was running in Timberlands. Then weeks later the high res footage of him in the building indeed showed he was in running shoes.
In this case, you're trying to make judgements on eyebrows off pixelated photos, lmao.
Yeah I'm like 70% sure it's Cuepee.
Welcome back you've been missed.