The "LOLCANADA" thread...again
So what's new?
I've noticed the Liberals are now ahead in all major polls and Trudeau hasn't even started to campaign yet...i'd be shocked if they lost the election now.
Just shows just how incompetent Conservatives are.
We have many that say debt doesn't matter like Montreal but all you need to do is look at the interest payments that each country is making and were that money actually can go.
We cam all post numbers like the poorest state in the USA has a higher median income than all the provinces but it comes down to affordability and how folks feel
The crap you can say and the amount of stuff u believe or say that is wrong is so amazing …..
Me not even 3 week ago
Canada got his own currency and it’s debt is mostly in its own currency too .
So Canada is fine
70% of Canadian debt are held by Canadians institutions (banks, pensions fund , etc ).
We have a great commodity named oil that the Canadian dollar will always have demands for to help us in dire times .
As for how Canada is performing on debt issues (2023) ?
https://www.canada.ca/en/department-fina...
So Canada is perfectly fine .
Now that doesn
I don’t know know if you are a functional illiterate but at least , when u accuse or imply stuff about people opinions , at least try quote them sometimes so we can see what you actually taking about and the probable misuse of context ….
Seems like were actually in the middle of the g7 in debt per capita according to the cbc. Seems like there was some number manipulation where we ignored provincial debt and only included federal to get the number that showed us as the best in the g7. Was a pretty good watch for someone who knows little or cares about are debt. If I didn't see this I would have kept believing what uke said this week.
These adjusted numbers put us close to the uk and french debt. The uk debt ended their last gove
There wasn’t any number manipulation for at least the accusations that trudeau was bad with debt management In this country which was the focal point of many of his attackers .
Of course trudeau wasn’t responsible for provincial, cities debt and so it wasn’t taken into account and it shouldn’t be obv .
At the point it's obvious you are trolling. Let me know when you find some data on vehicular manslaughter while under the influence of nicotine or a person being sent to the pych ward because they smoked a cigar.
Hopefully if you have kids u won’t let your wife smoke cigar and cigarette while pregnant ….
Btw getting cancer seem a Pretty bad outcome and it cost a fortune to you and me In healthcare not to mention to annoying smell of a cigar .
But hey I’m for freedom and respect their choices and they pay for it a lot in taxes .
See that is what liberty is all about and if if you are totalitarian trill throne fine .
But at least stop calling trudeau a dictator when you are clearly way no more one then him trying to control anyone life’s …
Banning wine lol ……( I wonder what Jesus would of think about that ll )
Ps: the prohibition was not successful , it just enrich criminal organization with big spike in violence ..
I mean wouldn’t you trust one of your libertarian ideologies promoters in Cato institute ?
National prohibition of alcohol (1920–33) — the “noble experiment” — was undertaken to reduce crime and corruption, solve social problems, reduce the tax burden created by prisons and poorhouses, and improve health and hygiene in America. The results of that experiment clearly indicate that it was a miserable failure on all counts. The evidence affirms sound economic theory, which predicts that prohibition of mutually beneficial exchanges is doomed to failure. The lessons of Prohibition remain important today. They apply not only to the debate over the war on drugs but also to the mounting efforts to drastically reduce access to alcohol and tobacco and to such issues as censorship and bans on insider trading, abortion, and gambling.1
lmao this is the christmas gift that keeps on going. The dude with the decades long nicotine addiction trying to give lectures that anyone who doesn't want red wine banned must be an alcoholic or a liberal😃
When did I get "super mad" about vape flavors?
lolololol my dude doesn't even remember when he came into this thread crying about how sad it was that the federal government was restricting child-friendly flavoured nicotine pouches at convenience stores (while still being totally legal). That guy who thought that was sad thinks.....wine should be banned.
lmao this is the christmas gift that keeps on going. The dude with the decades long nicotine addiction trying to give lectures that anyone who doesn't want red wine banned must be an alcoholic or a liberal😃
Still waiting for a list of all those crimes under the influence od nicotine and/or caffeine.
Nah, not anyone that doesn't want it banned. Anyone that defends it.
lolololol my dude doesn't even remember when he came into this thread crying about how sad it was that the federal government was restricting child-friendly flavoured nicotine pouches at convenience stores (while still being totally legal). That guy who thought that was sad thinks.....wine should be banned.
You said vaping.....
I wonder what the stats are for violence against children while under the influence of drugs and alcohol compared to nicotine and caffeine.
Shifty , Crime of cigarette , never heard about it ?
lol…
Didn’t you ever heard of contraband ?
https://globalnews.ca/news/10345887/fede...
https://www.timescolonist.com/local-news...
Shifty , so u really believe because I drink one or two glass of wine or beer , i cant drive ?
lol.
But hey let’s condemn everyone because some idiots, drink too much and drive under influence but let’s not ban guns because some idiots will use them in criminal activities lol….
Your double standard is so ridiculous .
Reminds me of maga -> ban books it’s dangerous , don’t ban guns it’s a manageable danger lol…
Ps: should we bs gambling too ?
Many will steal to maintain that gambling addiction .
From the sound of it u might want to go live in Saudi Arabia -> great state if freedom over there , they banned everything you dislike too …
Btw shifty , believing banning wine /weed will stop dui is false because people will do stuff regardless if it’s legal or. It .
That is how criminal entities thrive ….
Seriously , About we fix this first before going all totalitarian nutcase on our freedom ?
https://globalnews.ca/news/10196374/b-c-...
A 66-year-old Abbotsford man has been sentenced to nearly five years behind bars after being convicted for impaired driving for a record 21st time. Kristen Robinson reports – Jan 1, 2024
Can you tell me how come this guy is only getting 5 years now ?
How come
He didn’t get 5 years like at his 5th arrests for example ?
And those excess of leniency by the court for dui isn’t unheard of , we had some cases like that in Quebec too …
There wasn’t any number manipulation for at least the accusations that trudeau was bad with debt management In this country which was the focal point of many of his attackers .
Of course trudeau wasn’t responsible for provincial, cities debt and so it wasn’t taken into account and it shouldn’t be obv .
I believe some of the provincial debt is decided at a federal level its just compartmentalized. And even if we don't blame him for that we have to judge him on a percentage of the debt he has control over which is much worse then provincial so it makes him look worse.
If you watch the video (i highly suggest you do) it explains all the g7 country's do not have "provincial debt" so when we compare Canadas debt to say France and compare only the federal debt per gdp to frances federal debt per gbp its very misleading and just wrong. And the adjusted numbers show we are not the best in the g7 but counting total debt we are average and falling.
I really don't have a dog in the race with debt its never been a big issue for me. But today I found out you guys were just blatantly lying or more likely just mislead about the actual state of our debt since i was told multiple times this week Canada has the best debt per capita in the g7 and that appears to just not be true as its clearly Germany with us in a 3 way tie with two country's that toppled governments over debt in their parliaments which is kinda what's happening to us now tbh
I believe some of the provincial debt is decided at a federal level its just compartmentalized. And even if we don't blame him for that we have to judge him on a percentage of the debt he has control over which is much worse then provincial so it makes him look worse.
If you watch the video (i highly suggest you do) it explains all the g7 country's do not have "provincial debt" so when we compare Canadas debt to say France and compare only the federal debt per gdp to frances federal debt per gbp
Come on , Trudeau has no control of provinces creating debt …..
He can only bailed them out .
You can’t say provinces will force Trudeau hands by creating more debt to lower Trudeau power to create debts …..
US do not use all the entitlement debt (which would amount over 100 trillions + ) for example and I suspect many other arrangement are like that .
When conversations come up regarding government debt, the focus is usually on the national debt. The $34 Trillion national debt (not to mention the $80 trillion in unfunded obligations from Social Security and Medicare) is crucial to understand, but that often means debts incurred by state and local governments stay out of the limelight.
Bonded obligations are the debt commonly associated with “public debt.” States and municipalities issue bonds for various purposes, bond investors purchase the bonds, and the government pays the bond investors back with interest using taxpayer dollars.
What matters mostly is who owns the debt .
And Canada is all good since we owe to ourself like 70% .
When its own by foreigners the problems really kicks in .
FWIW
https://www.oecd.org/en/data/indicators/...
We are ok but yeah Trudeau got it wrong lately and for a while on many things .
why would you focus on that can you not admit your error just because he has less of a responsibility you also didn't understand what I said .
it turns out you guys knew as little about this as me. Us states are obligated to not run a deficit and most don't fyi.
"State and local governments do not have the economic ability to run fiscal deficits to encourage aggregate demand like the federal government. With this macroeconomic handicap, many state and local economies ask for federal aid during times of hardship."
Its actually quite rare for provinces/states to have as big of a deficit as Canada does and it was completely ignored when liberals argue we are better off with debt. It turns out provincial debt is mostly a Canadian thing
But what you really skipped is the fact I was not blaming Trudeau for the provinces debt. But I was blaming you guys and his government for misleading us on are debt per capita by ignoring half are debt which is in the forms of the provinces when you calculated the debt and compared it to other countries....
Also say federal is only responsible for 50% of the debt but their share of the pie increases more..... you can still blame them as much (probably more) for the total debt
tldr stop using federal debt to compare Canada to other country's that don't have provincial debt. its comparing 50% of are debt to 100% of theirs and its intentional deception. I don't even care about debt I just don't like being lied to
Ontario's and qeubecs net debt-to-GDP ratio is now forecast to be 38 per cent in 2024–25,
The average us states gdp to debt ratio is about 11%
The highest is kentucky at 22%
The lowest is wyoming at 4%
I couldn't find anything on france/ukso I think they have zero state debt and its all federal
That's a huge difference
It’s ok if u believe I didnt know about it shrug ….
I even specify it more the once before here to lozen and others some time ago .
When people blame Trudeau for debt and u take Alberta debt as an arguments what else can I say beside it makes no sense …
https://financialpost.com/executive/exec...
FWIW when investor buy Canada bonds they buy it with the federal debt in mind not taking all the provincials , cities etc and anyway they have their own markets bonds too for that .
bra im not using province debt as an argument . im simply saying ... nevermind its not a liberal talking point you wouldn't waste your time on it why should I. You coulda watched a two minute video from a left leaning source to understand it instead of 15 mins arguing things I didn't say on an internet forum.
Lmao. Christmas has come early!
The dude with decades of nicotine use wants the Big Government to ban drugs like wine and weed that he doesn't consume. In a stunning display of hypocrisy he got all sad that the government restricted child-friendly nicotine pouches from easy access convenience stores. The only defense my dude has to this hilariously hypocrisy is which particular nicotine product was the one he was crying about.
I'll never understand the far right guys who IMMEDIATELY jump to totalitarian big government to ban things that aren't their personal preference.
This video ?
(not hard to put it on if u want us to see it ….)
So yes I agree with what they are saying and I personally said so many time and almost got called racist for it …..until the evidences was becoming to obvious to say yes we had an immigration problem .
Anyway , all I’m saying is if people want to really blame Trudeau for lying about the real debt of Canada because he didn’t include provincial debt , etc it’s fine .
That ain’t how market (which are the ones that buy debts ) works and how they analyses it .
But hey just don’t permits provincial government to creates debt in the first place then and put it in the hand at Ottawa if people want Trudeau to be responsible for it .
FWIW let’s say Ontario bust , canada (federal government ) comes in bailing it out and emits bonds for it and then you see it in the national debt and if by some bad events , they can’t sell it all , we got a crisis and the central bank of Canada comes in and buy the rest .
So I figure that is why we don’t included it (provincial ,cities,etc) in the federal debts as a talking points because it isn’t just how we deal it on the markets .
Look at the USA for example (and I suspect it’s the same with other countries too) .
The national debt ($36.17 T) is the total amount of outstanding borrowing by the U.S. Federal Government accumulated over the nation’s history.
$36.17 TRILLION
Breaking Down the Debt
The national debt is composed of distinct types of debt, similar to an individual whose debt consists of a mortgage, car loan, and credit cards. The national debt can be broken down by whether it is non-marketable or marketable and whether it is debt held by the public or debt held by the government itself (known as intragovernmental). The national debt does not include debts carried by state and local governments, such as debt used to pay state-funded programs; nor does it include debts carried by individuals, such as personal credit card debt or mortgages.
So this seem to be how the usual « do business » is .
Despite what the video says .
Canada as a sovereign entity (which provincial government aren’t ) is doing pretty good compare to others sovereign entities that can print it’s own money .
Lmao. Christmas has come early!
The dude with decades of nicotine use wants the Big Government to ban drugs like wine and weed that he doesn't consume. In a stunning display of hypocrisy he got all sad that the government restricted child-friendly nicotine pouches from easy access convenience stores. The only defense my dude has to this hilariously hypocrisy is which particular nicotine product was the one he was crying about.
Nope, never got sad either. I don't buy Canadian ones anyway, it literally makes zero difference to me. I was just calling out how stupid it is.
Any luck finding stats on crimes against children while people are under the influence of nicotine and caffeine? Come on man, defend your position, your first reply on this topic asked me too, where are yours?
Shifty , so u really believe because I drink one or two glass of wine or beer , i cant drive ?
lol.
Yes, you're an alcoholic. That explains your terrible posting at least.
Ps: should we bs gambling too ?
Many will steal to maintain that gambling addiction .
From the sound of it u might want to go live in Saudi Arabia -> great state if freedom over there , they banned everything you dislike too …
100%. Sure I enjoy gambling, but it's for entertainment and I have income to do it. Society would be better off if it was and I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
Yes, you're an alcoholic. That explains your terrible posting at least.
100%. Sure I enjoy gambling, but it's for entertainment and I have income to do it. Society would be better off if it was and I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
- lol I don’t even drink much at all but I can see how u got like no arguments and just try inventing w.e u can find to make your ideas more valuable .
- Well maybe for you isn’t much of a big deal but many believe gambling is a terrible addiction , especially those that lost everything because their husband or wife for example gamble away their family nest.
So again it’s not because YOU are fine with it and responsible for it , all are .
And again , doesnt matter , taking your logic , because some can’t control themselves lets ban gambling for everyone .
That exactly what you prone when it’s something you dislike .
Well many dislike gambling so why they shouldnt do like you , proposing ban on stuff you like just because a minority of the population are in danger of those others addiction ?
Ps: yes addiction for gambling can bring someone to do criminal acts or end up costing lot of money by ending up in the street or w.e …
What bothers me with you isn’t necessarily your view , but it’s the hypocrisy or saying you are on the side of freedom but in reality you are not .
Calling Trudeau a dictator by freeing the borders and a lock down city with the trucker and yet ready to an wine etc .
Claiming banning wine because it’s dangerous and yet you are pro guns …
You sound a lot like luciom actually .
Nope, never got sad either. I don't buy Canadian ones anyway, it literally makes zero difference to me. I was just calling out how stupid it is.
Any luck finding stats on crimes against children while people are under the influence of nicotine and caffeine? Come on man, defend your position, your first reply on this topic asked me too, where are yours?
Lmao. You literally called it "sad". Repeatedly. Your views appear to be:
1) Shifty wants Big Government to ban wine
2) Shifty wants Big Government to ban weed
3) Shifty thinks it is quote "sad" unquote that the government regulates - not bans - the locations for child friendly nicotine products.
Can anybody guess which of those three drugs is the one shifty has used for decades?!?!?!?!? Man, right wingers sure love Big Government regulating what you can do the moment it goes against their own personal preferences.
And lol at the weak-sauce "defend your position" attempt as if I've ever thought all of these three recreational drugs are harmful in precisely the same ways. They aren't. But the glaring hypocrisy should be obvious to anyone.
I did say it i just never learned how to put up you tube videos on this site
The crap you can say and the amount of stuff u believe or say that is wrong is so amazing …..
Me not even 3 week ago
I don’t know know if you are a functional illiterate but at least , when u accuse or imply stuff about people opinions , at least try quote them sometimes so we can see what you actually taking about and the probable misuse of context ….
Were am I wrong you posted your own quotes
Canada got his own currency and it’s debt is mostly in its own currency too .
So Canada is fine
What matters mostly is who owns the debt .
And Canada is all good since we owe to ourself like 70% .
Im not sure how who it is owed to matters you still need to make the interest payments and they keep growing and growing .
We disagree on Justin on his debt. Not sure how you can defend a man that promised a balanced budget before Covid and racked up more debt than all the PM's before him
I do agree with you provincial debt should not factor into the total JT has no control of that
- lol I don’t even drink much at all but I can see how u got like no arguments and just try inventing w.e u can find to make your ideas more valuable .
You're an alcoholic that thinks it's ok to drive with a few beers. Net negative to society.
What bothers me with you isn’t necessarily your view , but it’s the hypocrisy or saying you are on the side of freedom but in reality you are not .
Calling Trudeau a dictator by freeing the borders and a lock down city with the trucker and yet ready to an wine etc .
Claiming banning wine because it’s dangerous and yet you are pro guns …
You sound a lot like luciom actually .
Why have any laws? Life isn't safe anyway so who cares.
- lol I don’t even drink much at all but I can see how u got like no arguments and just try inventing w.e u can find to make your ideas more valuable .
- Well maybe for you isn’t much of a big deal but many believe gambling is a terrible addiction , especially those that lost everything because their husband or wife for example gamble away their family nest.
So again it’s not because YOU are fine with it and responsible for it , all are .
And again , doesnt matter , taking your
I am against all laws for DUI, we should punish actual bad driving not consumption of anything.
I am also against all laws for personal consumption of anything , and production and sale thereof, and you know that, so please stop . I would like a constitutional ban for prohibitionism of all kinds so i am very different from all of you (i disagree the state has any right at all, without exception, to tell adults what they can consume).
of course gambling as well should always be completly legal and unregulated, as any other activity without any exception between consenting parties should
Sad as inadequate you clown.
1) Shifty wants Big Government to ban wine
2) Shifty wants Big Government to ban weed
3) Shifty thinks it is quote "sad" unquote that the government regulates - not bans - the locations for child friendly nicotine products.
1) Prohibition worked, if you want to defend why alcohol should be legal let's hear it.
2) Yes, it's still illegal in majority of the world. It was a mistake to legalize it. If you want to defend why it should be legal, let's hear it.
3) Uke is perfectly fine with legal weed ads targeted to children.
Can anybody guess which of those three drugs is the one shifty has used for decades?!?!?!?!? Man, right wingers sure love Big Government regulating what you can do the moment it goes against their own personal preferences.
Yes, we have all seen this song and dance from you before. You thought you were actually right and asked me to provide data, I did. You have no argument so you resort to acting like a child.
And lol at the weak-sauce "defend your position" attempt as if I've ever thought all of these three recreational drugs are harmful in precisely the same ways. They aren't. But the glaring hypocrisy should be obvious to anyone.
Ok, let's see you explain how these 3 "recreational" drugs are harmful in different ways?
It's not hypocrisy bro, alcohol and weed impairs judgement and destroys lives. Nicotine, a stimulant does not. Do you understand that difference and how psychologically it's not the same thing? You can win this argument if you just post your crime stats while people are under the influence of nicotine and/or caffeine.
I am against all laws for DUI, we should punish actual bad driving not consumption of anything.
I am also against all laws for personal consumption of anything , and production and sale thereof, and you know that, so please stop . I would like a constitutional ban for prohibitionism of all kinds so i am very different from all of you (i disagree the state has any right at all, without exception, to tell adults what they can consume).
of course gambling as well should always be completly legal and
I've heard there are places in the world with no laws. Great places to live, raise a family. Should check them out.
