UnitedHealth CEO Assassinated

In many places in the USA it's illegal to cover your face in public to the point you are not recognizable.

No it is not. I was responding to a particular take on how apparently either the economy was destroyed or it was taken out behind the wood shed or some such nonsense.

Here we go again. It's the Italian drek's "raw milk sold in Walmart" level of research erroneously telling us about how things are in the US.

Wrong again.

Here we go again. It's the Italian desk's "raw milk sold in Walmart" level of research erroneously telling us about how things are in the US.

No he locked the covid thread because he couldn't take people disagreeing on covid.

He obv doesn't even like reg. old real America so he has to make up a fake sex doll version to love 😀

odd. he had some sweet insight in that thread.

heading into trial,. only knowledge of both crimes and what persecutors have info on

who would you rather take in if you were a defense attorney?

one case has a suspect who was caught with not only vid footage but if thats not true then we have the murder weapon along with what we knew when he was caught and he said.

on the other hand we have strong yet sadly circumstantial evidence

Every sunday, when the NFL facepainters are around, crime rates spike.

And every year in the USA we have the most crime and assassination attempts on October 31.

I don’t know what any of this means or how to answer your question.

In OJ they had DNA, motive, prior relationship and fleeing. In Mangioni, I have heard they have video, DNA, a gun match to the bullets and a manifesto.

You were claiming Mangioni would attack sentencing like OJ when OJ never reached sentencing because he was found not guilty. I have no clue why you think Oj and Mangioni should be compared to each other.

You think that it is dark in midtown Manhattan thirty minutes before sunrise? I'll concede that broad daylight was an overstatement, but the combination of light from the rising sun, and all the other lights in the area means that there was no practical difference.

Also, he was standing in the immediate proximity of a bright light when committed the murder. He clearly didn't care about witnesses or being captured on camera.

I don't see how conservatives live with all the contradictions they hold internally. They are like "get the government out of my personal life and especially my body". Then they are like no you can't terminate a pregnancy in your own body. Now it's you can't wear a mask.

The principle by which they claimed they shouldn't have to wear masks during the pandemic was that they can do whatever they want with their person as a matter of basic freedom, even if that included getting other people sick. But now that they want Leftists spied on and harassed by the state for speaking in public they want prohibitions on masks.

Conservatives are ruled by fear, not principles. Ironically, they are the emotional ones. Their positions flow directly from fear, not principle. And they know this. Get one in a conversation and raise the issue of their fear. They will panic more likely than not.

Oh how they hate the mask and oh how I love it. I love putting on the mask, getting on public transportation, and going to a pro Palestine rally without anyone being able to track me and put me on some list. I love staring daggers at cops who think I'm some lunatic terrorist just because I oppose the wholesale slaughter of innocent people by my own government. The young cops cannot hide the fear it's all over their faces.

Some (most?) people are incoherent, but abortion isn't a case of incoherence for the right (it is for a lot of the left).

For abortion, conservatives just think the fetus is a person with full rights, including "you have to keep him alive" as you would agree for an actual live baby. That's the topic, not incoherent at all with "the state should ****ing stay out of our lives", because conservatives aren't anarchist and anti-abortion conservatives simply consider abortion the actual murder of a baby.

I do disagree with them on the idea that a fetus should get the same legal protection of an actual baby, but that's the topic. It's not about body autonomy.

While the left is completly messed up every time it says it is about body autonomy being a sacred principle you can't move from, but agreeing with, say, vaccine mandates.

For masks it's how to use PUBLIC COMMON PROPERTY, same as traffic laws. What you are allowed or not to do in PUBLIC PROPERTY isn't the same of what you are allowed or not to do in your personal life on your property (or on company property).

If you agree cars should have plates because if you do something crazy with a car you should be easily recognizeable by all bystanders (even if later on, when the plate database is accessed), then facial recognizability is exactly identical: you want to use a public space among others people have to be able to know who you are at all times. It's basic human decency.

While there is no human decency concern of "trying to reduce the risk for others of getting a disease", if you don't want to get a contagious disease YOU STAY OUT OF PUBLIC PLACES the **** do you want from others?

See you want to participate in potentially violent and illegal activities without being recognizeable. That's a basis misuse of public property and it should be fully illegal.

You are probably imagining this.

A plated car can be drive by those that do not own the car .
Maybe it would be better all get a gps chip incorporated in them so if they do something bad , masked or not , they would be easily condemned.

Man U surely would loved live in Germany during the stasi ….

You say you are a true libertarian?
A reminder ?

I'd say that both the liberals and conservatives each have their own fears and it's definitely safe to say that a large part of liberalism is ruled by "safetyism"-- the idea that a person or society can never be too safe. Not sure if it's actually fear that's behind that or just some weird misguided sense of motherhood but it's something.

This is elite level comedy.

Yes I'm sure the cops are cowering in fear from your eye daggers. The irony of you calling them scared as you're scared to show your face is pretty good too.

Don't worry they appreciate the overtime for doing basically nothing. They don't care if they're at a protest or a rally for the Knicks.

Liberty is about how you are allowed to use your own body and property, not about you being allowed to use other people bodies or property.

Public property isn't yours: you are a guest there, or at most a co-owner if you are part of the public owners.

In a co-owned space the will of the majority of the owners is what rules and that's liberty : property rights.

You aren't giving up any freedom in public spaces because you don't have any to give up to begin with, not being YOUR SPACES.

That would be more believable if they gave a shiit about that "baby" once it is born. Abortion is the right's version of virtue signaling. They yap about how they are fighting for a baby's right to life, but once it's born and needs money for basic food and shelter, they tell it to pound sand because it would impact their tax liability - then they wonder why 20 years later that baby is voting Democrat.

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I don't see it on the older cops faces. But the younger ones...it's unmistakable. I can read basic human emotions. They really think something is likely to pop off. If they took a second to think they might realize we are the good guys, wanting to stop crimes against humanity. Or maybe that's what they are really afraid of, the realization of where they are fitting into the morality of the world, that they are the attack dogs of the bad guys.

Not scared of me so much as a bunch of people wearing kafias and chanting. But in general cops are extremely fearful people. If you observe closely you can see one of the things many of them seem most afraid of is losing an argument (the worst kind of cops imo). It's perhaps counter intuitive but think about it. All those militaristic, gun loving types are fearful. Super jacked dudes are are fearful. Anyone projecting physical intimidation or seeking such does so because they are motivated by fear, fear of violence or of physical domination. If you happen to know some of these people you will find, if you are listening, some trauma in their background. Something happened to them and they developed fears around it and they never want it to happen again.

The example I use when I'm trying to teach people about this is the gun or 2nd amendment enthusiast who walks into Starbucks with a rifle slung across their back in an open carry state. Many people will think that's a tough guy don't mess with him he's all business etc. But, assuming you're not one of the people, consider what actual thoughts might lead someone to such behavior. They are massively afraid. They think something could pop off in Starbucks and they've got to be ready with overwhelming lethal force. When is the last time you went somewhere and thought you needed overwhelmingly lethal force to feel safe? It's only a strong irrational fear that leads to that thought.

Researchers have done studies on this. When they try to get to the bottom of the differences between conservatives and "liberals" (by which they really mean non conservatives) behavioral scientists keep running into the immense fear carried by conservatives. I saw a study in the NYT which used poker and measured this in terms of activity in certain areas of the brain when participants were confronted with large bets while holding a marginal hand. The conservative amygdala is going off like a 4th of July celebration compared to the non-conservative's.

The rookies just want to go home and do the wife/husband thing. Youd be correct that newbie get nervous. They get super nervous a lot of the times. Im entrenched around them

Bur youve got like 1.5mil of them, many who randomely picked being a cop instead of a construction worker or a fireman. Most dont care what youre rioting about. They want their paycheck. Cops represent a very large percentage of working folk.

The older ones are different.

Literally no one thinks that.

Their intent is to persuade a would be shooter to move to an easier target. Their miscalculation is that it's tactically a moronic move strategically, and they should carry concealed.

Do you really think people struggle with trying to figure out why a person carries a deadly weapon within hand's reach 24/7?

Sounds like you're conflating the reasons why a cop carries weapons with why an armed guy in the grocery store carries a gun.

With two mass shootings per day on average, they may very well be right.

So, like the person who carries a gun is massively afraid, are you admitting that you hide your face because you are also massively afraid?

Maybe they're thrown off with what your intentions are when you "stare daggers" at them?