In other news

In other news

In the current news climate we see that some figures and events tend to dominate the front-pages heavily. Still, there are important, interesting or just plain weird things happening out there and a group of people can find these better than one.

I thought I would test with a thread for linking general news articles about "other news" and discussion. Perhaps it goes into the abyss that is page 2 and beyond, but it is worth a try.

Some guidelines:
- Try to find the "clean link", so that links to the news site directly and not a social media site. Avoid "amp-links" (google).
- Write some cliff notes on what it is about, especially if it is a video.
- It's not an excuse to make outlandish claims via proxy or link extremist content.
- If it's an editorial or opinion piece, it is polite to mark it as such.
- Note the language if it is not in English.
- There is no demand that such things be posted here, if you think a piece merits its own thread, then make one.

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12 October 2020 at 08:13 AM
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by Luciom k

that was simple reporting of very early rumors about the event. As you know, and as i later corrected when different information was made available.

You seriously think there's a connection between Routh and Livelsberger? If even Luckbox tells you that seems like a leap, then maybe you should re-assess,


by corpus vile k

You seriously think there's a connection between Routh and Livelsberger? If even Luckbox tells you that seems like a leap, then maybe you should re-assess,

If you mean in the sense of "same handler" or "someone in government decided to activate both of them " or the like no, i mean that's a 0.x% possibility at most.

There is a single digit probability they met (or had common acquantainces) for recruiting of volunteers for ukraine efforts.

I see a connection in the sense of the left being so horrible and disastrous it's probable it managed to make pro-ukraine military types crazy to the point of them being willing to try to kill Trump and/or send messages toward that idea, because of what they think will happen to Ukraine because of Trump.

It's kinda psychopathic to put so much interest in a foreign country, akin to what they do with palestine as well. It's deeply unhealthy to care too much about any non-allied country outside yours.

And it is because it makes people go crazy like that.

That is, if Livelsberger motives will be confirmed to be Ukraine related (which is my educated guess i was referring to previously).


This is admittedly kinda weird
https://www.deccanherald.com/world/who-w...

ABC quoted a close relative as saying that the 37-year-old was a massive supporter of Donald Trump, throughout the US President-elect's political career. "He thought Trump was the greatest thing in the world," Livelsberger's relative was quoted as saying. Green Berets interviewed by NYT also expressed surprise at the nature of the bomb—given his knowledge with explosives, Livelsberger could easily have crafter a far deadlier bomb by packing it with shrapnel, but chose to make a bomb that packed less lethal force.

High profile suicide? Similar to that Marine who set himself on fire a while back outside an Israeli embassy? Certainly strange anyway.


by corpus vile k

This is admittedly kinda weird
https://www.deccanherald.com/world/who-w...

High profile suicide? Similar to that Marine who set himself on fire a while back outside an Israeli embassy? Certainly strange anyway.

Yes ABC found someone to support their narrative even if his social media was found to be ultra-pro-ukraine.

As for the rest one CT on twitter right now is that someone killed him, put him in the cybertruck and self-drove the truck to the location where it then exploded.


Yeah I saw that, so they could discredit Trump by setting up a Trump supporter, some were saying lol. Another mooted theory was that his wife killed him. I personally don't buy into either so far. You can have pro Ukraine Trump supporterxs or at least Republicans anyway, so I wouldn't read too much into that just yet.


by corpus vile k

Yeah I saw that, so they could discredit Trump by setting up a Trump supporter, some were saying lol. Another mooted theory was that his wife killed him. I personally don't buy into either so far. You can have pro Ukraine Trump supporterxs or at least Republicans anyway, so I wouldn't read too much into that just yet.

Not the same lol and you know that


by Victor k

green berets are some of the most unhinged people on the planet. and Fort Bragg is well known as a drug and sex trafficking den. and the US intelligence agencies are well known for using soldiers as guinea pigs.

He was a Master Sgt. That's a pretty high rank.

Whether he was a guinea pig or not will never be known, nor how he was able to shoot himself in the head after an explosion (or vise versa) but this story will get swept up under the rug pretty quickly soon anyway.

by corpus vile k

he then shot himself before burning alive.

He wouldn't of been conscious after the blast.


What do you call those thingies they put on a bomb that delays the explosion?


by Playbig2000 k

He was a Master Sgt. That's a pretty high rank.

Whether he was a guinea pig or not will never be known, nor how he was able to shoot himself in the head after an explosion (or vise versa) but this story will get swept up under the rug pretty quickly soon anyway.

I agree with you there brother. just like the guy in Germany got memory holed as soon as they found his twitter espousing massive support for Israel and the German far right.


Since when soldiers of fortune and mercenaries need to support the cause they are enrolled for?


by Luciom k

Not the same lol and you know that

I'm not saying it's the same but this guy, according to msm reports so far seems to be both. I doubt that every single Trump supporter bar none are anti Ukraine. The two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.


by Playbig2000 k

He was a Master Sgt. That's a pretty high rank.

Whether he was a guinea pig or not will never be known, nor how he was able to shoot himself in the head after an explosion (or vise versa) but this story will get swept up under the rug pretty quickly soon anyway.

Nidal Hassdan was a US army major. That's also a pretty high rank.

He wouldn't of been conscious after the blast.

You don't know that and I'm not asserting this anyway. Maybe he shot himself before the bomb went off. Again we've no definitive answers yet and everything is speculation.


by corpus vile k

we've no definitive answers yet and everything is speculation.

Correct, everything at this point is just speculation, including whether or not that was actually Sgt. Livelsberger's body since it was burned beyond recognition.

Miraculously though, his I.D., which was paper and plastic, managed to survive the flames (not that it proves who the body belongs to) kinda like how we got so lucky that all the hijacker's passports survived 9/11.


Sky news have now showed a press conference within the past hour, where the LV sheriff states he shot himself just before the bomb went off. They can identify his body through dental records I'm sure, even if he was badly burned. Passport may have been burned but still identifiable, or maybe was blown from the car.


Well, I guess the "bright side" of most domestic terrorism today being left wing and Islamist is that we aren't 'going to be getting much moralizing over such incidents from the Establishment, as they dont fit the preferred narrative. A little gaslighting, and then swept under the rug, and we move on.

Right wing twitter is pointing out the Islamist who committed the mass murder was a member of a very extremist mosque in Houston whose Imam regularly glorifies violence against infidels; but I dont expect this fact to get any run by the MSM for obvious reasons.


right wing twitter also said he was an immigrant that just crossed the border.


What the hell is right wing twitter?


Early reports (by officials, either the FBI or police) said the truck used in New Orleans crossed the Texas/Mexico border, which was also around the same time they said there were at least 4 suspects. I remember hearing this on the news. It's now nowhere to be found.


by weeeez k

What the hell is right wing twitter?

I think a good working definition would be X.


by Luciom k

We have few certainties but we have decent elements to make educated probabilistic guesses

Yes , we just can’t with climate changes o0….by experts nonetheless…


by weeeez k

What the hell is right wing twitter?

the subdomain within twitter ("now X") of people who are actually rightwing and talk about politics.

There have always been "something twitter", from historian twitter to econ twitter to switfies twitter to milan AC twitter to everything else. It means the subdemographic within that social network who almost obsessively talks about that topic mainly.


by Montrealcorp k

Yes , we just can’t with climate changes o0….by experts nonetheless…

You can , but no policy should be based on that.

I am not proposing any action by law enforcement by making educated guesses.

You are anytime you try to motivate a regulation because "climate change".

Not the same thing.

You should not be allowed to use the state unless you can prove beyond reasonable doubt it's indispensable to do so.

While you should be allowed to wildly speculate, with absolutely no legal repercussions to anyone, about whatever you think is going to happen "because the climate"


An example of what should completly disqualify a government of a country for having ANY relationship with any western country:

the "moderate" syrian terrorist leader of the rebels who "liberated" the country refuses to give his hand to Germany foreign minister (she is a woman), while giving it to the french foreign minister (a man)

https://x.com/fratotolo2/status/18752202...

This should automatically lead to an interruption of ALL relationship, the inscription of that person, and his "party" , in the list of enemies of the west, a complete ban of immigration of anyone from that country (except people who can prove to be harassed by the government because they fight it), and a complete, absolute no exception embargo of trade at all levels.

We should cut ANY AND ALL RELATIONSHIPS with people who don't bend the knee to our interpretation of human values COMPLETLY.

No ifs, no buts, especially not with countries which don't have oil in abundance or the like (compromising when it's necessary for our survival is still fine). 0 Tolerance diplomacy, you either execute exactly as we order, or you disappear from the world trade and migration map entirely.


I've some sympathy with that view

and countries with leaders facing arrest warrants for war crimes / crimes against humanity


by Luciom k

An example of what should completly disqualify a government of a country for having ANY relationship with any western country:

the "moderate" syrian terrorist leader of the rebels who "liberated" the country refuses to give his hand to Germany foreign minister (she is a woman), while giving it to the french foreign minister (a man)

https://x.com/fratotolo2/status/18752202...

This should automatically lead to an interruption of ALL relationship, the inscription of that person, and his "party

they were repressing women for years and you didnt have anything to say aobut it. they have dismissed a bunch of women judges and you had nothing to say about it. its not surprising that performative subservience to Westerners is when you jump in.

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