In other news

In other news

In the current news climate we see that some figures and events tend to dominate the front-pages heavily. Still, there are important, interesting or just plain weird things happening out there and a group of people can find these better than one.

I thought I would test with a thread for linking general news articles about "other news" and discussion. Perhaps it goes into the abyss that is page 2 and beyond, but it is worth a try.

Some guidelines:
- Try to find the "clean link", so that links to the news site directly and not a social media site. Avoid "amp-links" (google).
- Write some cliff notes on what it is about, especially if it is a video.
- It's not an excuse to make outlandish claims via proxy or link extremist content.
- If it's an editorial or opinion piece, it is polite to mark it as such.
- Note the language if it is not in English.
- There is no demand that such things be posted here, if you think a piece merits its own thread, then make one.

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12 October 2020 at 08:13 AM
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by corpus vile k

Sorry but why should we pander to a currently Islamist regime who are already making changes to the Syrian education curriculum, if they refuse to shake hands with a woman because she's a woman?
That's disgusting behaviour. I disagree with Luciom on pretty much everything but I don't think he's being extreme by saying we shouldn't have anything to do with regimes who view women as apparently second class citizens and refuse to engage with western representatives due to their sex.

Not sure why

The Syrian people rose up TO INSTALL THOSE GUYS IN POWER lol, stop pretending it doesn't come from the masses there.


by 5 south k

Luciom,
What do you think of the president of Argentina? Seems like some pretty bold policies.

It's my go to example of what the (form me) normal right on the economics would and should be.

As a reminder though he needs parliament for most things anyway (same as Biden and Trump need congress) and afaik he doesn't have a permanent majority there, so everytime he implements something legislatively he is acting through compromise with shifting support from MPs.

I love he is anti tariff and pro Israel and pro Ukraine as well, it clarifies where the normal right should be on those issues


by corpus vile k

Sorry but why should we pander to a currently Islamist regime who are already making changes to the Syrian education curriculum, if they refuse to shake hands with a woman because she's a woman?
That's disgusting behaviour. I disagree with Luciom on pretty much everything but I don't think he's being extreme by saying we shouldn't have anything to do with regimes who view women as apparently second class citizens and refuse to engage with western representatives due to their sex.

Not sure why

Well remember?
Only the far far right values are western in his mind….he explicitly said it many Times…

Luciom holds the same « hate and evilness » for the left -> which in his mind is gigantic….

I think you dont see how much bigger he would apply the same treatment for many more « regimes » that we are not talking about here….
Thats the problem.


by Luciom k

It's my go to example of what the (form me) normal right on the economics would and should be.

As a reminder though he needs parliament for most things anyway (same as Biden and Trump need congress) and afaik he doesn't have a permanent majority there, so everytime he implements something legislatively he is acting through compromise with shifting support from MPs.

I love he is anti tariff and pro Israel and pro Ukraine as well, it clarifies where the normal right should be on those issues

Doesnt sound good for trump?
You think maga are leftish or maga are too dumb to realize trump isnt on the right ?


by Montrealcorp k

Doesnt sound good for trump?
You think maga are leftish or maga are too dumb to realize trump isnt on the right ?

In fact i said counteless of times that Trump is center left , and his take on tariffs is terrible.

MAGA has some marxism in it (wall street vs main street is marxism), Bannon is a leninist. The idea that jobs are a fixed amount is very leftist as well


by Montrealcorp k

Well remember?
Only the far far right values are western in his mind….he explicitly said it many Times…

Luciom holds the same « hate and evilness » for the left -> which in his mind is gigantic….

I think you dont see how much bigger he would apply the same treatment for many more « regimes » that we are not talking about here….
Thats the problem.

Luciom's beliefs- which as I've said I don't subscribe to- don't nullify the issue of the new Syrian regime refusing to recognize a woman by not showing etiquette. That in itself indicates an uncompromising stance on their part and I dont see why the west should entertain them if they engage in such behaviour right off the bat, being barely in power.
Luciom possibly having an agenda and using this as a guise to bash Foreigners/Muslims/leftists/anyone else he doesn't like, again doesn't dissipate or nullify the issue itself.
The west should take heed of this behaviour from a new regime formerly affiliated with Isis and Al Qada, who are already trying to implement theocratic policies on a secular society, either way you cut it.


by Luciom k

The Syrian people rose up TO INSTALL THOSE GUYS IN POWER lol, stop pretending it doesn't come from the masses there.

I disagree with this. There have been protests from the Syrian people against the new regime's attempts at theocratic policies, such as mandatory hijab wearing and gender segregation. They have been secular for over half a century. This isn't coming from the masses, a certain faction out of several have taken power. How things turn out remains to be seen.


by corpus vile k

I disagree with this. There have been protests from the Syrian people against the new regime's attempts at theocratic policies, such as mandatory hijab wearing and gender segregation. They have been secular for over half a century. This isn't coming from the masses, a certain faction out of several have taken power. How things turn out remains to be seen.

The alawite urban local majorities have been secular for half a century. The rest never was. That you see protests in specific areas by the subset of people who shared values more with Assad than with theocratic sharia guys doesn't change the fact that the majority of the sirian population agrees with the "rebels" and helped them "take back" syria.

The "faction" is like 70% of the population that stayed in syria (remember a lot of the more modern syrians left in the last 10 years)


by Luciom k

The alawite urban local majorities have been secular for half a century. The rest never was. That you see protests in specific areas by the subset of people who shared values more with Assad than with theocratic sharia guys doesn't change the fact that the majority of the sirian population agrees with the "rebels" and helped them "take back" syria.

The "faction" is like 70% of the population that stayed in syria (remember a lot of the more modern syrians left in the last 10 years)

No, the actual entirety of Syria was secular with religious freedom at least, if not much else in that regard. It's about the only "good" thing that existed under Assad. The Syrian people may be rightly happy he's gone but that doesn't mean they want to ditch the secularism and be under the boot of a theocratic regime that grants even less freedom than the previous regime.


by corpus vile k

No, the actual entirety of Syria was secular with religious freedom at least, if not much else in that regard. It's about the only "good" thing that existed under Assad. The Syrian people may be rightly happy he's gone but that doesn't mean they want to ditch the secularism and be under the boot of a theocratic regime that grants even less freedom than the previous regime.

You think syrian muslim women had a right to divorce from their husbands, or that the majority of the population wants that right to exist? you think the majority of the population would be ok allowing homosexuals to kiss in public?

You understand that family law applies Sharia even under Assad yes?


by Luciom k

You think syrian muslim women had a right to divorce from their husbands, or that the majority of the population wants that right to exist? you think the majority of the population would be ok allowing homosexuals to kiss in public?

You understand that family law applies Sharia even under Assad yes?

First of all the issue is whether Syria was secular, which it was. Nobody said anything about gay people or whether they were progressive enough or not. India is a free democracy, but any public display of affection is frowned upon for example. You're moving the goalposts and you either haven't researched properly or else you're being disingenuous, as civil and criminal cases wre handled by secular courts. Only personal, religious and as you said family matters were handled by Sharia courts, with non Muslims free to also avail of their own religious law and practice when dealing with such matters.
As I said you appear to be using this as a guise simply to attack the Syrian people due to them being majority Muslim. You apparently can't conceive of a majority Muslim country wishing for secularism. And again I disagree with you.


by corpus vile k

Stop spamming the same two word crap., you've done this several times now. Use the ignore function if you don't like his posts, problem solved.

Use the ignore function if you don't like my posts, problem solved.

Or is it “ignore function for thee, but not for me”?


No problem you post nothing worth reading anyway


by corpus vile k

No problem you post nothing worth reading anyway

Nonsense. My suggestion that you use the ignore function was clearly worth reading for you. Lie better next time you lie.


by Playbig2000 k

This is the reported manifesto written by Sgt. Livelsberger that the FBI's saying's authentic.

How long does something need to be to be called a manifesto?


by Luciom k

The Syrian people rose up TO INSTALL THOSE GUYS IN POWER lol, stop pretending it doesn't come from the masses there.

no, Salafi mercenaries from Iraq, Turkey, and the Stans were given billions in support from the West and Israel to overthrow Assad.


This is the video of the podcaster who was contacted by the Las Vegas cybertruck bomber prior to the incident.

This is being 100% covered up by the MSM.

Also, a preliminary DNA test did not prove the occupant to be who they say.

In a nutshell, this guy was working in covert top secret military technology projects having to do with drones. According to his letter, he was being followed and they were trying to pick him up which means he must of said something to someone that they didn't like or he was resisting inside the government itself trying to get them to come clean.

https://youtu.be/xglaXVtQcis?si=38gIEMkz...


by Playbig2000 k

This is the video of the podcaster who was contacted by the Las Vegas cybertruck bomber prior to the incident.

This is being 100% covered up by the MSM.

Also, a preliminary DNA test did not prove the occupant to be who they say.

In a nutshell, this guy was working in covert top secret military technology projects having to do with drones. According to his letter, he was being followed and they were trying to pick him up which means he must of said something to someone that they didn't like or he w

I can't find msm claiming dna doesn't identify him, do you have a link other than presumably that podcast?


Nice now Luciom has entered the chat on Syria?

I’m sure all takes are reasoned and nuanced and should above all else be taken at face value


Front page of Google doesn't look like a coverup lol

Isn't the obvious dna thing, if it's true, that most likely his girl cheated on him(probably while he deployed or whenever else) vs. some body switch conspiracy? Chicks cheating on their military husbands isn't a new thing.

Let's face it--it's just another zany trumper gone off the rails. trump is like catnip for lunatics.


by corpus vile k

Sorry but why should we pander to a currently Islamist regime who are already making changes to the Syrian education curriculum, if they refuse to shake hands with a woman because she's a woman?
That's disgusting behaviour. I disagree with Luciom on pretty much everything but I don't think he's being extreme by saying we shouldn't have anything to do with regimes who view women as apparently second class citizens and refuse to engage with western representatives due to their sex.

Not sure why

I'm not suggesting that anyone should be pandered to, but that a simplistic approach to international relations such as the one advocated in that post is foolish. And that's not to ignore that "the west" has indeed pandered to regimes they shouldn't have, and certainly will again in the future, but I don't believe replacing a nuanced approach with a simplistic one is the answer.

You have of course mentioned the real reason someone like Luciom would favour such an approach.

None of what I'm suggesting precludes the measure of cutting off relations with any specific country, including Syria.


by Playbig2000 k

This is the video of the podcaster who was contacted by the Las Vegas cybertruck bomber prior to the incident.

This is being 100% covered up by the MSM.

Also, a preliminary DNA test did not prove the occupant to be who they say.

In a nutshell, this guy was working in covert top secret military technology projects having to do with drones. According to his letter, he was being followed and they were trying to pick him up which means he must of said something to someone that they didn't like or he w

Is this the new whistleblower playbook? Kill yourself while disclosing a minute amount of the information you have?
I will say that the special ops guy going to Las Vegas New Mexico instead of Nevada on accident has some strong Mk Ultra vibes.


by Bobo Fett k

I'm not suggesting that anyone should be pandered to, but that a simplistic approach to international relations such as the one advocated in that post is foolish. And that's not to ignore that "the west" has indeed pandered to regimes they shouldn't have, and certainly will again in the future, but I don't believe replacing a nuanced approach with a simplistic one is the answer.

You have of course mentioned the real reason someone like Luciom would favour such an approach.

None of what I'm suggest

Yeah. His point re the Syrian leadership snubbing a female western representative was about the only valid thing he mentioned in his post, to clarify. Then he went full Luciom on follow up. I do think the snubbing is actually a pertinent issue, but I don't disagree with your specific critique of Luciom's ultimate stance.


by Playbig2000 k

This is the video of the podcaster who was contacted by the Las Vegas cybertruck bomber prior to the incident.

This is being 100% covered up by the MSM.

Also, a preliminary DNA test did not prove the occupant to be who they say.

In a nutshell, this guy was working in covert top secret military technology projects having to do with drones. According to his letter, he was being followed and they were trying to pick him up which means he must of said something to someone that they didn't like or he w

BBC state he was identified via dna and dental records.

Las Vegas Sheriff Kevin McMahill said on Thursday that a body inside the vehicle was recovered. It was burned beyond recognition, but the county's coroner used DNA and dental records to confirm that Livelsberger had been inside the Cybertruck at the time of the blast. He was found with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head.

X is claiming his dna didn't match his son but aren't providing any sources to back this up. I don't even know if he had a son. He does appear to have personal problems with his ex wife.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...


by corpus vile k

Yeah. His point re the Syrian leadership snubbing a female western representative was about the only valid thing he mentioned in his post, to clarify. Then he went full Luciom on follow up. I do think the snubbing is actually a pertinent issue, but I don't disagree with your specific critique of Luciom's ultimate stance.

to be clear that kind of behavior would be tiptoeing a line of a formal declaration of hostilities a century or two prior when diplomats actually served as head of state proxies

we were very lucky to dodge ww3 when bush engaged in this hostile declaration

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