Trump 2nd term prediction thread

Trump 2nd term prediction thread

So, looks like Trump not only smashed the electoral college, but is looking on track to win the popular vote, which seems to be an unexpected turn of events, but a clear sign of the current temperature in the country and perhaps the wider world.

Would be interested to hear views on how his 2nd term will pan out from both sides of the aisle - major happenings, what he's going to get done, what he's not going to get done, the impact of his election on the current conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza, whether his popularity will remain the same, wane, or increase, etc.

A bit of an anemic OP, I know, just interested to hear people's thoughts now that the election uncertainty is over.

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06 November 2024 at 12:32 PM
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by MrDavitWilliam k

Prediction: Trump will bring corruption and influence-buying to a whole new level of sleaze with his watches and fragrances and bibles and other garbage he's selling. Trump has made buying influence simple; buy 10,000 bottles of his shitty fragrances or 5,000 crappy watches and get A, B or C! Yet he told his rubes he'd "drain the swamp." And they bought it. And they'll come to his defense and say it's totally OK and totally free from corruptive influence to sell watches and other crap. Jus

You missed the very clean and legal bribe Melania just got: 40 millions for a documentary on her

Personally I think political donations should be fully unrestricted because there are ways anyway to donate what you want so why out up the facade? Just allow unlimited donations


I predict a Nobel Peace Prize and I predict backers of GenocideJoe and the Dems are big mad about it.


by Luciom k

Greenland is on the map and should be an interesting conversation, ofc a lot will depend on details. But buying off the very small population to vote for annexation shouldn't be hard, and certainly much cheaper than using the militaries. It's an allied country though , so it shouldn't be taken by force.

Isn't Greenland just basically a flag pole exercise - US isn't about to economically takeover the island from Europe (they may put military bases on there if they haven't) but it is just a message to Russia and China hands off this country is ours if push comes to shove and we have to takeover this country.


by Playbig2000 k

fyp


Yeah, he wants to take over Canada, Greenland and Panama because of world threats. Keep telling yourself that, carnie.


by Luciom k

The equal protection clause is binary. You cannot treat anyone for any reason in different ways.

What's not binary is what to do with the private sector, but for the public (government) at all levels it's absolutely crystal clear that any and all forms of discrimination based on actually anything are completly unconstitutional.

Yes, but in practice, enforcement of the laws is not equal. Simply because a law is on the books doesn't been it is followed or enforced 100% of the time.

Once they passed the equal protection clause and equality was not instantly achieved, they attacked the holdouts with affirmative action to rectify inequality.

By your logic we have no underage drinkers, speeders or domestic abusers in the US now that all those activity are illegally.


by bundy5 k

Isn't Greenland just basically a flag pole exercise - US isn't about to economically takeover the island from Europe (they may put military bases on there if they haven't) but it is just a message to Russia and China hands off this country is ours if push comes to shove and we have to takeover this country.

If somehow the USA can get greenland as an unincorporated territory there would be insane economic benefits from that.

Keep in mind with climate warming greenland is going to be exceptionally better than today. It also has significant deposits of "rare earth", and with greenland you get a huge amount of territorial and fishing waters in what will be the richest waters (if they aren't already), again given warming.

Afaik there currently is just a huge NASA base in greenland


by jjjou812 k

Yes, but in practice, enforcement of the laws is not equal. Simply because a law is on the books doesn't been it is followed or enforced 100% of the time.

Once they passed the equal protection clause and equality was not instantly achieved, they attacked the holdouts with affirmative action to rectify inequality.

By your logic we have no underage drinkers, speeders or domestic abusers in the US now that all those activity are illegally.

Man the bold is private activities.

You cannot be sure all private actors behave correctly, sure.

But you can make sure that no public actor (or private actor using public money) has any explicit policy that blatantly violates the law!

If you completly abolish DEI in the public sector, you could still have some leftists in charge of hiring in public agencies choosing a black person over a white one because of ethnicity , of course you could. But you can guarantee that's not the explicit policy of any agency, and then you prosecute with the full force of the law people who violate basic principles.

Having quotas for women or LGBT or racial quotas in any agency or department is criminal, unconstitutional, a violation of the very basic rules of society. IT's incredible you guys not only allowed that, but pushed for that for so long.

AA for college admissions is particularly atrocious because you can banally have 100% race blind admission tests where race necessarily disappears.

AA is an attempt to fix PAST, "SYSTEMIC" inequality through reverse racism. That's completly illegal , it should simply never exist as a policy for any institution. You cannot allow to fix a purported past violation of human rights of a portion of citizens with a present violation of the human rights of other citizens, full stop, no nuance.


by Land O Lakes k

Yeah, he wants to take over Canada, Greenland and Panama because of world threats. Keep telling yourself that, carnie.

He actually said it's for the national security of the U.S. and world, to be exact.

So unless you know what the specific threat to national security is, maybe you should wait until you do before portraying him as a nut job looking to take over the world by force.


by Luciom k

If somehow the USA can get greenland as an unincorporated territory there would be insane economic benefits from that.

Keep in mind with climate warming greenland is going to be exceptionally better than today. It also has significant deposits of "rare earth", and with greenland you get a huge amount of territorial and fishing waters in what will be the richest waters (if they aren't already), again given warming.

Afaik there currently is just a huge NASA base in greenland

Global warming isn't some sort of obvious boon to the fishing industry.


by Playbig2000 k

He actually said it's for the national security of the U.S. and world, to be exact.

So unless you know what the specific threat to national security is, maybe you should wait until you do before portraying him as a nut job looking to take over the world by force.

The specific threat is to Trump's ego.

Russia wants Ukraine
China wants Taiwan
Trumps gotta do one better......


by Rococo k

Global warming isn't some sort of obvious boon to the fishing industry.

To the fishing industry of Greenland , it is, same as it is for wine production in England


Remember kids, every respected scientific body on the planet is lying to you about global warming. Also, global warming is real and it's super great for the economy, despite what all those lying scientists tell you.


by Luciom k

Man the bold is private activities.

You cannot be sure all private actors behave correctly, sure.

But you can make sure that no public actor (or private actor using public money) has any explicit policy that blatantly violates the law!

AA is an attempt to fix PAST, "SYSTEMIC" inequality through reverse racism. That's completly illegal , it should simply never exist as a policy for any institution. You cannot allow to fix a purported past violation of human rights of a portion of citizens with a pre

While I may agree with you that we have gone overboard in fixing past discrimination, currently illegal discrimination exists and fixing current discrimination and recent past discrimination is not unconstitutional here. It hasn’t been for the last 40 yrears, dispute your claims to the contrary.

Most discriminatory conduct litigated is in employment, with plenty of private actors. Your public private distinction is absurd.


by Playbig2000 k

He actually said it's for the national security of the U.S. and world, to be exact.

So unless you know what the specific threat to national security is, maybe you should wait until you do before portraying him as a nut job looking to take over the world by force.

I'm not portraying him as a nut job; he has done that all himself. I'm guessing you have forgotten that he was president for 4 years already, but the rest of us have not so we're not flying blind here. A big threat to national security and the world is Trump.

"This was done by the military and given to me. See as president I could have declassified it. Now I can’t, you know, but this is still a secret." -Trump showing classified documents to a scrub

Here's a pic of him with Anna de Rothschild. Oh, no wait... that was a person impersonating a Rothschild to obtain information from Trump and his inner circle. All it took was driving a G-wagon into Mar-a-Lago.



by Playbig2000 k

He actually said it's for the national security of the U.S. and world, to be exact.

So unless you know what the specific threat to national security is, maybe you should wait until you do before portraying him as a nut job looking to take over the world by force.

This is an absolutely perfect encapsulation of how easy these drooling chipmunks are to fool. I'm sure if Biden told him his ban of off-shore drilling in areas where no one wanted to drill anyway was due to specific national security threats he would believe him instantly and keep the doubters at bay with this exact same post.

lololololol


by Gorgonian k

This is an absolutely perfect encapsulation of how easy these drooling chipmunks are to fool. I'm sure if Biden told him his ban of off-shore drilling in areas where no one wanted to drill anyway was due to specific national security threats he would believe him instantly and keep the doubters at bay with this exact same post.

lololololol

Sorry I was speaking specifically about Greenland.


by Playbig2000 k

Sorry I was speaking specifically about Greenland.

I know exactly what you were speaking about.


by Gorgonian k

I know exactly what you were speaking about.

Then can you explain why it's NOT a national security issue for the U.S. to have a major presence in Greenland?

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"why should't he do that?"

"idk, but he just shouldn't. He's a bad orange man."


by Playbig2000 k

Then can you explain why it's NOT a national security issue for the U.S. to have a major presence in Greenland?

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"why should't he do that?"

"idk, but he just shouldn't. He's a bad orange man."

Why would I need to do that? I never said the US should or shouldn't have a presence in Greenland. I was only speaking about how easy you are to fool.


in this day an age any country not trying to buy Greenland if it's available is plain dumb..

have they not seen the errors Russia made with Alaska or corrupt Mexicans that sold California to the USA ..

super dumb if other countries let us bully our way into Greenland considering it can be perfect land in 100-200 years


by Gorgonian k

Why would I need to do that?

Because I was wondering why you were against him having a U.S. presence there.

If you don't know why, it's ok. I didn't mean to put you on the spot or anything. I understand.

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by Gorgonian k

I was only speaking about how easy you are to fool.

I'm actually the opposite, I'm one of the hardest people in the world to fool.


by jjjou812 k

While I may agree with you that we have gone overboard in fixing past discrimination, currently illegal discrimination exists and fixing current discrimination and recent past discrimination is not unconstitutional here. It hasn’t been for the last 40 yrears, dispute your claims to the contrary.

Most discriminatory conduct litigated is in employment, with plenty of private actors. Your public private distinction is absurd.

Yet is in the constitution, which limits the government from discriminating, not private actors.

Simple laws were added to limit discrimination by private actors, much later. While government discrimination is a violation of the basic principles of the USA.

It isn't an "absurd" distinction, it's a very clear constitutional one, which makes defendant of PUBLIC discrimination much worse offenders of the rule of law (= a bigger threat to society) than private actors doing the same.


by Playbig2000 k

Because I was wondering why you were against him having a U.S. presence there.

I didn't say I was. You just made that up.


by Playbig2000 k

I'm actually the opposite, I'm one of the hardest people in the world to fool.

I realize that you believe that.

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