Villain posts as new player in CO, limp calls to open, then 3-bets
2/3/5 NL 8 handed table
H image: tight, has made some big hands and won without showdown, has not shown a bluff, stack $1500
V2: 60 y/o passive loose Filipino man, has limp-called preflop raises with AQs, QQ. Is one of a couple players at the table who have been often calling my preflop raises. I think he has called almost every time I have raised in front of him. Stack $240.
V1: 40 y/o white European player (can tell from his accent and clothing style). He just arrived at the table. I have never seen him before. I've heard talk of a group of European pros who come and play here for a few weeks at a time. Stack $650.
V2 is in the UTG $10 straddle.
V1 posts $5 as new player in the CO.
It folds to V1 and he calls to $10.
H raises to $60 with AJo on the button.
Folds to V2 who calls.
V1 makes it $225.
H???
I think V1 looks like a thinking experienced player, but this is his first hand. Who just open calls the straddle with a strong hand after posting in the CO? Is this a known play? His 3-bet seemed fishy to me, like a squeeze and he is hoping to induce a fold from me.
Because V2 has I think called every single pre-flop raise of mine over the past 2 hours, rightly or wrongly I am not worried about him.
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I would snap fold. We don't have enough info or reads on him to think he's bluffing. Dunno why he didn't raise the first time, maybe he saw you liked your hand before he called the straddle.
Yeah, easy fold without more reads. That kind of play is not a bluff much, and often AA/KK or QQ+/AK.
Fold, unless you know that player limp/3!s as a bluff. Probably still fold this hand.
2/3/5 NL 8 handed table
H image: tight, has made some big hands and won without showdown, has not shown a bluff, stack $1500
V2: 60 y/o passive loose Filipino man, has limp-called preflop raises with AQs, QQ. Is one of a couple players at the table who have been often calling my preflop raises. I think he has called almost every time I have raised in front of him. Stack $240.
V1: 40 y/o white European player (can tell from his accent and clothing style). He just arrived at the table. I have never s
You think V1 is fishy squeezing and you’re not worried about V2. Go allin. V2 will call for his last $180, but again you’re not worried about him, right? And you now have position and psychological control over V1. Trust your reads.
Maybe he was gonna slow play his hand since he hadda post.
Was there a lot of raising pre? Were any players after you aggressive, whales, or players that will overplay their hand? Maybe he was trying to keep someone else in.
The bottom of his range is AK and it crushes us. Other hands he could have are just coin flips potentially for our stack.
and fwiw we have zero reads basically
V1: 40 y/o white European player (can tell from his accent and clothing style). He just arrived at the table. I have never seen him before. I've heard talk of a group of European pros who come and play here for a few weeks at a time. Stack $650.
he's most likely just a random recreational player. I don't even know what a pro would be limp/rr'ing with in that spot (I can't think of any hands, without a dynamic at the table, that would be considered a good play for a "pro").
I'd be willing to bet money he had aces, but that's just me.
He literally was still taking his chips out of the rack after arriving when he posted the $5 to enter. I don't know if he scoped out the table beforehand but I think he came in as a table change as he had an uneven stack with multiple denominations. The table had been quiet for an orbit or two, many deals not going to a flop, with chops. But again, I don't know if he saw that.
Maybe he was gonna slow play his hand since he hadda post.
Was there a lot of raising pre? Were any players after you aggressive, whales, or players that will overplay their hand? Maybe he was trying to keep someone else in.
The bottom of his range is AK and it crushes us. Other hands he could have are just coin flips potentially for our stack.
and fwiw we have zero reads basically
he's most likely just a random recreational player. I don't even know what a pro would be limp/rr'ing with in that
Later on, I saw him talking with a couple other young European players (speaking a foreign language), that I have never seen before. I think they came to the casino together. I left about 20 minutes after the hand in discussion.
Did you see him actually look at his cards? Sounds like he called in the blind bc he didn't wanna slow the game up then checked to see what he had when someone raised.
I would snap fold. We don't have enough info or reads on him to think he's bluffing. Dunno why he didn't raise the first time, maybe he saw you liked your hand before he called the straddle.
This. It literally be anything. My guess is that it's a dominance display. So let V display.
After this hand, call down and raise, with hands you'd like to go to war with. Also a guess, you're ahead now of what he's doing this with. But we don't know, and SPR's getting short.
Seems like the easiest fold in the world and I'm not sure what kind of live read of a complete unknown would get me to continue here. I guess that there theoretically is such a read but "suspected Euro pro plays oddly" is not it. If you folded and he slammed 52o in front of you with a smug expression, I can understand why that would be annoying but I don't see any reason to continue with the information provided.
