Time dilation and the only place it can't reach

I think he would say: "God doesn't play dice" then he would go back to his lab and slam the door.

Math uses a variable "x" in functions and equations. I wonder if the value of "x" can always be precisely defined (found) or perhaps there are some exceptions where "x" can't be precisely specified ?

OMEGATRON has "the unknown factor" also, so I just wonder if math accepts any cases of situations where something will remain unknown ?

I think this scheme is much better than the first one. I'm sure that the game's difficulty level is time dilation resistant, although I still don't know if it's full 100% resistance. It will be extremely difficult to measure and prove.

This should answer your question. And it might be a historic moment Something like a mathematical curse that can't be broken 😀

There's been cases where a result was dismissed because no one could follow it. Only years later someone saw what was going on and showed the proof was valid. Who knows? Maybe you're on to something but it will take someone smarter than me to see it. Good luck.

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Ok, thanks a lot! Your question has already helped me because it was right on point. Let's wait for a real math-geometry-poker-physics wizard 😀

And the calculations I've just posted seem to be just fine ! They show multiple ways of possible access to the pyramid's content. The 72=72 result is correct, although some minor corrections will have to be made to the multipliers (black color). I'll upload some new graphics soon.

"Repeatedly confirmed by experiment" is bandied around far too often. E.g., the muon count is higher than expected because muons be like we only been gone a microsecond! physicists be like "you have been gone for ages wtf are y'all doing down here?" I doubt classifies as an experiment in a meaningful sense.

Is Dominos running any specials?

What is your favourite kind of pizza? Can we make a pizza themed game

Also, I've been staring at the first graphic trying to figure out the math. Where do you get the numbers?

No pizza in this thread please 😀

The numbers explain how many green and red spheres are in each category when counted all combos together. For example when you have "edge x6" it means the pyramid has 6 edges and each one contains 2 red spheres and 1 green. So you multiply this by "x6" and you get 12 red spheres and 6 green spheres.

Let's see the final version with all corrections (all precisely verified many times):

>>>EDGE x6: red=12 green=6
>>>SIDE x4: red=12 green=12
>>>SMALL PYRAMID x4: red=4 green=12
>>>VECTOR x48: red=12 green=36
>>>SINGLE SPHERE x10: red=4 green=6
>>>PEAK POINT x4: red=4 green=0
>>>SMALL TRIANGLE x20: red=12 green=48
>>>COLOR LINK x24: red=12 green=24

Green spheres have value of 0,5 because they are doubled. When you add all numbers you get 72=72.

There are eight categories and there's nothing more. All are regular and patterned. They represent all possible ways of getting into the pyramid's content.

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Back in the day Henri Bergson accused Einstein of slipping metaphysics into the science for just that reason. He argued that the physicist's measurement of time is something different than the way humans experience the passage of time and thought we should use the term 'duration' to describe the experience of time to prevent the conflation.

[QUOTE=google]Ringo Starr is widely considered to have excellent timekeeping as a drummer, with many experts stating he was able to keep a very consistent tempo throughout songs, making him a reliable beatkeeper for The Beatles, even without the use of modern click tracks; essentially, he "kept good time" on the drums. [/QUOTE]

Replace the stop watch or clock with Ringo keeping the time. He's not going to experience going into sloth mode, nor will the people around him. Likewise if we sync up two good drummers and set them off in planes circling the earth in opposite directions: no time dilation; they'll still be in sync when their paths cross.

Interesting. I agree with your "drummer experiment".

I think this "getting closer to a black hole" thing is about time measurement made by some sort of device. So only the devices will go slower, while human's perception of all actions will remain the same. So, if my average time of eating a sandwich is 3 minutes, when I eat it in a spaceship near a black hole, it will still be 3 minutes, but not on the watch I'll be wearing. I'm only not sure whether this refers to only electronic devices, or maybe automatic watches, too.

That's how I see gravitational time dilation in space.

.... then it would take you about 15 minutes to eat one on the moon per the hourglass you took with you.

E=m(v^2), where v is the velocity of space.

That's roughly how I see space.

The 3D pyramid scheme (post #36, last graphic) is driving me crazy. I've been analyzing it like 80 times and still can't find the final explanation. The scheme does prove that basically 3 = 4 when you visualize it through the 10 sphere pyramid.

But I'm suspecting that these 8 structural factors represent the ways our vision / eyes see different modules of the pyramid. Modules are regular and patterned and there are 8 types of them. So not only human brain is looking for patterns, but also our eyes. Both are connected, but it's the eye that moves and focuses on certain module.

This could mean that we SEE this perfect balance (72 = 72) with the help of our brain which adds all 8 factors and possible combinations together. And this would mean that we can't perceive or prove perfect balance between pros (green) and cons (black) if we are not looking at the pyramid. If we close our eyes or look in some other direction, the balance disappears.

This sounds crazy, but it somehow just makes sense. Human vision is very much connected with perceiving space and distance, so maybe this explains why time dilation is connected with the POINT OF VIEW.

Approaching a black hole and beyond.

He says that as you approach the Event Horizon you experience time passing normally. That's how I've understood it. However, I wonder just how correct that is. Suppose you're in his spaceship and you're falling straight down feet first. Aren't you going to notice the clock on your feet running more slowly that the clock on your head? And aren't you going to notice your feet getting numb as electric signals from your feet to your brain take longer and longer to get there? And does your brain actually ever see your feet pass the Event Horizon? And if it did, wouldn't your feet completely disappear once they cross? In fact, once the rest of you crosses, every upper part of you will be cut off from every lower part of you.

Doesn't sound like time is passing very normally for you after all.

PairTheBoard

Interesting. Although mostly theoretical term. I can't answer your questions, this goes beyond my knowledge at the moment.

Since "white hole" is the opposite of "black hole" it kind of reminds me of Alphatron and Betatron 😀 so maybe there is also a mixture of both like a "yin yang hole" ? 😀

I need to read some more about it or watch the movie, thanks for reminding me of this term.

second-best drummer in the Beatles after Bill Shepherd ofc. Ringo played 0 minutes on anything.

OP I do think you have misunderstood the concept of time dilation. The stopwatch that you are looking at will run at the same rate in your reference frame no matter what you do. It is measuring your proper time. If you tried to stop your watch at XX:00 you would find it no more or less difficult than if you were sitting in your house on earth. To an outside observer who is not at rest, your clock is running slow, but to you it’s running normally. If you said the trip to wherever you went took 1 year, when you get back to earth you would find that everyone else has calendars that are dozens or even hundreds of years later than when you left (depending on how fast you travel). Your clock says 1 year elapsed, and your body would be 1 year older, but if you went fast enough, your great-great-great grandchildren might be the ones greeting you when you get back.

Changing this to gravitational time dilation doesn’t affect anything. If you approach the event horizon of a black hole, someone watching from farther away would notice that you begin to travel more slowly (as well as you begin looking more red and you become spread out over a larger amount of space). You, though would notice nothing particularly significant. Your stopwatch would run at the exact speed it always has.

OK so in Alphatron mode you get cards based on the time you hit a button, e.g. if you hit at 13 seconds, you get a 5 of spades, and you also get to see the clock so you could try to time it, right? And in Betatron it's the same, you just don't get to see the clock?

Not quite. In Betatron you only aim at a certain second, you don't think about hundreds (like you do in Alphatron) and also you're allowed to miss. You only must hit 59th second correctly (blind) to confirm your hand. You don't see the stopwatch and you can take any cards you want anytime, but it's in your interest to be precise, and pick up cards at the right time. First reason - this will help you keep tracking sense of time correctly to hit 59th second. Second reason - you can then assume that you actually might hit your poker hand in reality.

I like the graphic you posted 😀

You can see latest graphics with more colors in my latest thread (in Poker Theory forum).

This is correct. Time slows down as you approach a black hole. But ALL processes that are time dependent slow equally. The time it takes for the chemical receptors in your retina to respond to a photon slows. The time it takes for electrical signals from your nerves to reach the brain slows. The time for your brain to process those signals, the time for the brain to produce and send signals to the muscles and so on also are affected. The net result is that it isnÂ’t only the stopwatch that runs slower - the person operating the stopwatch runs slower. The magnitude of the effect is the same, so the person observes absolutely nothing out of the ordinary. It is only an outside observer in a lower gravitational field that would see anything that appears strange.

This is correct. Time slows down as you approach a black hole. But ALL processes that are time dependent slow equally. The time it takes for the chemical receptors in your retina to respond to a photon slows. The time it takes for electrical signals from your nerves to reach the brain slows. The time for your brain to process those signals, the time for the brain to produce and send signals to the muscles and so on also are affected. The net result is that it isn’t only the stopwatch that runs slower - the person operating the stopwatch runs slower. The magnitude of the effect is the same, so the person observes absolutely nothing out of the ordinary. It is only an outside observer in a lower gravitational field that would see anything that appears strange.