Donald J. Trump (For everyone else)
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
Look brothers, if President Heinke says we have to tank, we have to tank.
The upcoming draft classes are strong and 2-3 seasons of tanking will see us with a solid foundation to fight for the chip.
USA 2029 baby, we going all the way
Where are all the ''the stock market is the economy'' and the cryptobros ?
Gotta love how lucy bailed out after brokenstars post.
Beautifull.
inb4hehasalifeandnotimetoanswer
He tends to just disappear for awhile when he is so resoundingly put in his place. He does tend to return later and act as if it never happened though. Never once admitted error.
whats the % of Trump/Maga supporters that actually know how sick/stupid/evil he really is, but still support him, bc the realization came in at a point where they are so ashamed and would have to admit to themselves how wrong they were (and can't do that)???
i'd set the over/under at around 50%, but feel that it could be much higher actually.
On this forum its 100%
Mass majority of these posters have been around for 15+ years and have argued vehemently about the merits of eugenics at one point or another
naaaa ... don't buy that anymore.
sure, there's the hardcore base (mostly racist to the core) of like 5-10% ... but then there's a bunch of people who actually know better, but got in for a bunch of reasons (always republican, strong borders, less crime, good for the economy, bla bla bla), and now exactly the opposite is happening, plus, he's still a terrible human being (always was)
but they can't/won't get out bc of peer pressure, neighbors, and the reason i mentioned (to admit to themselves how wrong they were)
Mostly though, no one is offering anything else
Very curious at what point Leon steps down from Tesla. Too many bridges have been burned that DOGE going away changes nothing if he’s still a part of Tesla
naaaa ... don't buy that anymore.
sure, there's the hardcore base (mostly racist to the core) of like 5-10% ... but then there's a bunch of people who actually know better, but got in for a bunch of reasons (always republican, strong borders, less crime, good for the economy, bla bla bla), and now exactly the opposite is happening, plus, he's still a terrible human being (always was)
but they can't/won't get out bc of peer pressure, neighbors, and the reason i mentioned (to admit to themselves how
When you say some people like trump because of "strong borders, less crime, good for the economy" and then say the opposite is happening you may want to follow up with a fact or two with why you think those things aren't occurring.
Just look at the border numbers so far this year compared to any of the 4 previous years. It seems odd to suggest the border isn't more secure.
It is still a little early to claim crime is down or up, but it seems odd to suggest going from a party who is lenient on crime to one who wants to be harsher on crime that more crime will occur.
It is also super early in trump's term to make a call on the economy, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find an economist who isn't paid by the gov't that says reducing the size of gov't. cutting taxes and cutting regulation is bad for an economy.
Not a response to you, but posters ITT talking about income inequality: remember that income inequality has never and will never be a problem in a country as free as the US currently is.
I know nothing about the mechanics of Tesla’s board but I would have to imagine there’s something in place to protect Leon from this
Agreed. It is super odd that so many people think income inequality is a problem. If your neighbor invents the squatty potty and millions of people around the world decide their lives would be better owning a squatty potty instead of having an extra $25 in their pocket how does that make the world a worse place? Everyone your neighbor touches is better off - he hired people who decided their lives would be better if they worked for him, the customers voted with their wallets their lives are better because of your neighbor invention and your neighbor investors are also making a lot of money too.
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Agreed. It is super odd that so many people think income inequality is a problem. If your neighbor invents the squatty potty and millions of people around the world decide their lives would be better owning a squatty potty instead of having an extra $25 in their pocket how does that make the world a worse place? Everyone your neighbor touches is better off - he hired people who decided their lives would be better if they worked for him, the customers voted with their wallets their lives are bett
Elon Musk has enough wealth to feed the world for the next ~10 years yet his neighbor might be starving
and you guys want that person who might be starving to starve worse
Elon has received enough Government subsidy to feed the entire world for a whole year and hes calling people collecting 350$ a month parasites and you think that isn't a problem?
Agreed. It is super odd that so many people think income inequality is a problem. If your neighbor invents the squatty potty and millions of people around the world decide their lives would be better owning a squatty potty instead of having an extra $25 in their pocket how does that make the world a worse place? Everyone your neighbor touches is better off - he hired people who decided their lives would be better if they worked for him, the customers voted with their wallets their lives are bett
Super odd that you think this example has anything to do with inequality? Again, this is something that EVERYONE agrees is an issue. What happens when no one has an extra $25 to consume the squatty potty? The system starts to lose efficiency and breaks. We can remove any moral aspects of the conversation and still determine that an economically polar world ends up as a return to feudalism. This is a systemic issue that needs to be figured out.
When you say some people like trump because of "strong borders, less crime, good for the economy" and then say the opposite is happening you may want to follow up with a fact or two with why you think those things aren't occurring.
Just look at the border numbers so far this year compared to any of the 4 previous years. It seems odd to suggest the border isn't more secure.
It is still a little early to claim crime is down or up, but it seems odd to suggest going from a party who is lenient on cr
harsher on crime??? gimme a break buddy ... Trump himself has committed so many crimes and only got away bc of his buddies in the supreme court. they just intervened to get the tate brothers out of romania (know child sex traffickers). Musk is lining his pockets with Trump's support (and a huge cut for sure) in a never ending corruption spree etc etc.
if you actually believe what are are writing here (and i don't mean this in a criticizing way, just factual) then there is no basis for any form of discussion man.
the sun is bigger than the moon, the earth is not flat, and black is not white.
harsher on crime??? gimme a break buddy ... Trump himself has committed so many crimes and only got away bc of his buddies in the supreme court. they just intervened to get the tate brothers out of romania (know child sex traffickers). Musk is lining his pockets with Trump's support (and a huge cut for sure) in a never ending corruption spree etc etc.
if you actually believe what are are writing here (and i don't mean this in a criticizing way, just factual) then there is no basis for any form of
Just like with the numbers of deportations for Biden vs. Trump, the important thing isn't whether crime is up or down, but about how you talk about it. They just want someone who calls people evil and rapists and talks about how the cops should beat people and pardons notorious cops who murder people. It's their version of virtue signaling.
Any of you listen to the last Sam Harris, with Naill Ferguson? Worth getting the free scholarship for it if you don't have it and would rather not pay.
That's the first time I've understood the Trump plan for Russia/China that actually made sense.
It's not great for Canada/Europe, that's for sure.
Agreed. It is super odd that so many people think income inequality is a problem. If your neighbor invents the squatty potty and millions of people around the world decide their lives would be better owning a squatty potty instead of having an extra $25 in their pocket how does that make the world a worse place? Everyone your neighbor touches is better off - he hired people who decided their lives would be better if they worked for him, the customers voted with their wallets their lives are bett
I don't think your very specific example makes the world a worse place at all. Your example is completely fine and not something I have an issue with--nor do I really think anyone would take issue with it really. Problems only start to arise when said neighbor specifically tries to maximize profits to the extreme by doing x, y, or z at the detriment of others. There are many examples of x, y, and z and a common one might just be pollution.
Now, I don't necessarily really think it is "neighbor's" responsibility to behave in an ethical and moral way such that there is some ceiling to this maximization of profit, but there are instances and real life examples in which this occurs and affects others to the long-term detriment of society as a whole.
So, basically there is not really a problem if some guy invents X and it improves life for so many people and as such "some guy" becomes very wealthy. What is a problem is when the maximization of profit becomes a priority over the cumulative well being of people. Again, in your example you are explicitly stating "neighbor" invents something and it improves peoples' lives and I really doubt anyone has problems with that very specific example as it is the hypothetical ideal.
I would argue that the continued inequality of wealth is a function of persons A B C doing x, y, and z in order to maximize their profits at the detriment society as a whole. This is also not a black and white argument either... Persons A B C can absolutely have profoundly positive impacts on society by inventing "squatty potty" while also simultaneously, or sometime in the future, doing x, y, z at the expense of the majority. I believe it to be the governments responsibility to prevent x, y, z and to a certain extent also the consumers' responsibility (i.e. vote with your wallet). So, again, I don't necessarily believe it to be "neighbor's" responsibility to not take advantage of a situation and maximize profits by doing x, y, and z, but this system breaks out of equilibrium if said neighbor has impact/leverage on government or the consumer is unable to effectively "vote with their wallet".
I will also state that some income inequality is not necessarily a bad thing and something I won't really argue against. Some income inequality can provide an incentive for others to work hard or innovate. It is only in the extreme situations in which problems arise and the main argument I would make is that as income inequality trends up it's going to correlate pretty closely to "neighbor" doing x, y, z things to the cumulative detriment of everyone else (or at least a majority). This problem becomes exacerbated when "neighbor" has the ability to influence law/regulation/government and possibly also the consumer which is what I would also argue is occurring.
It is a difficult problem to address and there are a lot of nuances to stuff like this.
I used to think the president really couldn't affect the economy by himself all that much. I stand corrected.
Trying to imagine what is going on in the boardrooms of large corps in the US right now (The General Electrics, Caterpillars Chevrons, Walmarts, etc etc.
Plans to forge ahead with expansion here, a new product there, etc. I can imagine there is much "we have a lot of uncertainty on the price of various components, and what the tariff market may or may not be, and even what our domestic projections might look like."
The answer to the uncertainty will most likely be delays in advancing new initiatives and freezing expansion on existing ones until there is more market and trade certainty.
Does Trump not get that this is likely occurring all over the US.?
Uncertainty and pauses and flip-flopping is unhinging things everywhere.
