President Donald J. Trump (for Trumper supporters)

President Donald J. Trump (for Trumper supporters)

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21 January 2025 at 02:54 AM
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by coordi k

You guys don't get to spend the better part of a year ripping trans people to shreds in the name of protecting our fragile female counterparts who desperately need our protecting and then shrug off Trump PARDONING AND FLYING THE TATE TWINS HOME ON TAXPAYER DIME like "who is embracing what?"

TRUMP IS EMBRACING. THE LITERAL CULT LEADER IS EMBRACING. THE WOMANIZING ADMITED ABUSER CONVICTED SEX OFFENDER THAT YOU GUYS EMBRACED

The hypocrisy would be hilarious if it wasn't so infuriating

Wait what? which pardon, did the Tate have federal criminal problems? source for the US government paying for the flight? I think you are trusting some insane sources which made up a narrative that doesn't exist and which you fell for.

Again, THE FLORIDA AG IS BUILDING A CASE AGAINST THEM RIGHT NOW


if you think DEI was breaking the system or causing any significant issues then you are insane. It's fine to argue about the basic fairness of DEI policies which should not really exist in a perfect world but are a logical stopgap in the meantime.

That's something that I think is inherently missed about DEI policies. To use the Jordan Peterson hack **** that the right loves to espouse, it's about the equality of opportunity versus the equality of outcome. The right feels like DEI/affirmative action type policies are legislating an equality of outcome and destroying the idea of fairness and "best man for the job". The left thinks that these kind of policies help raise up marginalized communities, makes sure they are incorporated into the system, and ultimately creates a healthier society with a larger pool of capable citizens. It also ensures representation of society in the system.

I can understand why people would have different views on this and I personally believe there is a time limit on these kind of policies (although i doubt we're there yet). I also believe a lot of this stuff on both sides distracts from the real class and inequality issues... None of this excuses weaponizing it to convince the populus that DEI is the root of their issues and that the answer is to enable a fascist oligarchy takeover.


The question is whether or not the Trump administration requested a lifting of the Tates travel ban.


by jchristo k

if you think DEI was breaking the system or causing any significant issues then you are insane. It's fine to argue about the basic fairness of DEI policies which should not really exist in a perfect world but are a logical stopgap in the meantime.

That's something that I think is inherently missed about DEI policies. To use the Jordan Peterson hack **** that the right loves to espouse, it's about the equality of opportunity versus the equality of outcome. The right feels like DEI/affirmative act

There would be less backlash against these policies if supporters would denounce the extremists who dictate false ideas like (1) whiteness is synonymous with racism or (2) men are inherently broken, etc.


by craig1120 k

There would be less backlash against these policies if supporters would denounce the extremists who dictate false ideas like (1) whiteness is synonymous with racism or (2) men are inherently broken, etc.

BS. Facts don't matter. Like it never mattered how many people Biden deported and you still believed he was all for open borders, you'll believe every Democrat has personally performed sex change surgery when the idiots like Jordan Peterson and Dan Bongino, or your cult leader Donald Trump, tell you that's what's happening.


by microbet k

BS. Facts don't matter. Like it never mattered how many people Biden deported and you still believed he was all for open borders, you'll believe every Democrat has personally performed sex change surgery when the idiots like Jordan Peterson and Dan Bongino, or your cult leader Donald Trump, tell you that's what's happening.

Who exactly are you speaking to with this? It’s not me..


by craig1120 k

There would be less backlash against these policies if supporters would denounce the extremists who dictate false ideas like (1) whiteness is synonymous with racism or (2) men are inherently broken, etc.

okay I denounce these ideas


by jchristo k

okay I denounce these ideas

Unfortunately too many people chose silence over the past decade.


first they came for the whites, and i said nothing. Then they came for the men, and still I said nothing.


Then they came for the trans people and I said something but it was too late


When members of a group are unable to criticize the group, they are no longer in service of ‘the good’ but instead are serving something they don’t understand.

This is true for any and every group identity.


by craig1120 k

When members of a group are unable to criticize the group, they are no longer in service of ‘the good’ but instead are serving something they don’t understand.

This is true for any and every group identity.

ahh you're talking about the trump cult


by jchristo k

ahh you're talking about the trump cult

I was just going to type ‘any’, but then I told myself, “I better type ‘any and every’, so there is no denying what I actually mean.”


by coordi k

We have 60 Trump cabient members with 1 black person and 4-5 other people of color, so about 10% representation. They are hiring right wing podcasters, billionaires, news anchors, and conspiracy theorists to fill key government positions. JD Vance laid out the plan to "weaponize all the governments agencies against liberals" where they "replace their guys with our guys".

DEI is just the acknowledgement that different backgrounds and perspectives leads to better outcomes than a circle jerk and w

Trump has an agenda. He's hiring people he thinks will fulfill the roles. He's not choosing them because of their skin color or because they wear a skirt but everyone knows they have a penis

What's an important illustration that's been beaten to death is university admissions. Choosing applicant based on race. Penalizing asians for being asian. Every time DEI is enacted in this situation (or the workforce) An individual asian has busted his or her ass to be the next in line for the best possible education. Instead of getting what they deserved they are racially discriminated against and denied. That's the truth and the rest of the leftist fluff is nauseating stupid or dishonest.

Another aspect mention is that those races that arent penalized then don't know if they earned their spot. The people around them don't know if they earned their place. It creates a weird dynamic for sure

Like you can hate trumps selections all you want but they aren't hired based on "DEI"

Nobody knows if Bidens appointments were qualified because they stated their DEI agenda

Should these people be celebrated for their achievement or should they be looked at as charity recipients? Who knows, right?

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by hole in wan k

Trump has an agenda. He's hiring people he thinks will fulfill the roles. He's not choosing them because of their skin color or because they wear a skirt but everyone knows they have a penis

What's an important illustration that's been beaten to death is university admissions. Choosing applicant based on race. Penalizing asians for being asian. Every time DEI is enacted in this situation (or the workforce) An individual asian has busted his or her ass to be the next in line for the best possible

Lol. Compare the qualifications of their Secretaries of Defense and get back to me.


Brother, Asians were losing their spots to white people.

What do people of color and DEI have to do with white people stealing Asian spots?

It is dishonest and nauseating that you don’t know what you’re talking about when trying to shad people of color for their achievements.

I work for one of the biggest employers in the entire country and nobody thinks about DEI despite women and people of color being over represented in the upper echelons. They’re there because they earned it.

It’s sad affirmative action is dead. The whole point was that you had to have a plan in place to ensure diversity to receive government funding. Some places just had bad or bad faith plans. Quotas were deemed illegal! Most republicans think there were racial quotas. The ironic part is with affirmative action dead the case that killed it wouldn’t be possible today because the safe guards have been removed. RIP


by coordi k

Brother, Asians were losing their spots to white people.

What do people of color and DEI have to do with white people stealing Asian spots?

It is dishonest and nauseating that you don’t know what you’re talking about when trying to shad people of color for their achievements.

I work for one of the biggest employers in the entire country and nobody thinks about DEI despite women and people of color being over represented in the upper echelons. They’re there because they earned it.

It’s sad affirmati

I don't know where you've been getting your meth but pointing out Asians are being racially discriminated against and that white people are the beneficiary is not the victory you think it is

Good lord. If anyone is confused about the difference between liberalism and cultural Marxism, wokeness etc, here it is

All the reports state that the standards are raised and lowered based on racial representation vs the population. This is Equity or the great E in dei. And yes, based on this, black people were required lower grades than white people... who were required lower grades than Asians

You're in favor of racial discrimination. I think its a terrible idea and immoral. I'm sure you're going to campaign to fix the NBA next


by coordi k

Brother, Asians were losing their spots to white people.

What do people of color and DEI have to do with white people stealing Asian spots?

It is dishonest and nauseating that you don’t know what you’re talking about when trying to shad people of color for their achievements.

I work for one of the biggest employers in the entire country and nobody thinks about DEI despite women and people of color being over represented in the upper echelons. They’re there because they earned it.

It’s sad affirmati

no, Asians were losing their spots to non-white people.

"it's sad an obscene violation of the constitution is dead" is quite the take.

if only that was true though: AA is still alive in many places, we are far from "no hiring or college admission ever takes race into consideration at all ever".

"ensuring diversity" is illegal. doing anything at all regarding race in any corporate or public decision making is completly illegal.

race should never be a consideration, a factor, in any decision at all, and even suggesting it should is a complete violation of the federal constitution, it is eversive as asking for the secession of a state or the removal of women right to vote.

it is inimical to the core rules of society and no decent person should ever entertain those thoughts.


by hole in wan k

I don't know where you've been getting your meth but pointing out Asians are being racially discriminated against and that white people are the beneficiary is not the victory you think it is

Good lord. If anyone is confused about the difference between liberalism and cultural Marxism, wokeness etc, here it is

All the reports state that the standards are raised and lowered based on racial representation vs the population. This is Equity or the great E in dei. And yes, based on this, black people we

What's an important illustration that's been beaten to death is university admissions. Choosing applicant based on race. Penalizing asians for being asian. Every time DEI is enacted in this situation (or the workforce) An individual asian has busted his or her ass to be the next in line for the best possible education. Instead of getting what they deserved they are racially discriminated against and denied. That's the truth and the rest of the leftist fluff is nauseating stupid or dishonest.

Another aspect mention is that those races that arent penalized then don't know if they earned their spot. The people around them don't know if they earned their place. It creates a weird dynamic for sure

Like you can hate trumps selections all you want but they aren't hired based on "DEI"

Nobody knows if Bidens appointments were qualified because they stated their DEI agenda

Should these people be celebrated for their achievement or should they be looked at as charity recipients? Who knows, right?

Buddy, you claimed the main issue was Asians getting segregated against in college

Then non sequitur into people of color being DEI and possibly being charity recipients

When white people were the charity recipients in your "main issue" where the rest is fluff and nauseating

you own goaled yourself so hard you are currently suffering from the whiplash

Maybe you will get it next to you read this

Here is a hint: Black people were and still are under represented in ivy league schools


by coordi k

Here is a hint: Black people were and still are under represented in ivy league schools

it is not "under representation".

they access ivy league colleges more than they deserved because they were let in with lower test scores than other groups as the cutoff.

that's a known, uncontroversial fact.

whatever the reasons for they abysmal test scores as a group vs other groups, they were still let in more than they deserved.

and that's atrocious, horrific, and most importantly fully unconstitutional.

even if you think the entirety of their group test gap is due to "racism" (which you need to be a radical left extremist to believe), it is STILL UNCONSTITUTIONAL IN FULL to try to help them by damaging other people because of ethnicity.

you simply cannot defend a completly unconstitutional provisions full stop no matter the merits, the outcomes and everything else if you want to be a participant in society. that's what the constitution is about.

You give your life to it no matter if you agree or not , AND YOU STILL APPLY IT IN FULL even if you want to try to change it until you change it


by Luciom k

it is not "under representation".

they access ivy league colleges more than they deserved because they were let in with lower test scores than other groups as the cutoff.

that's a known, uncontroversial fact.

whatever the reasons for they abysmal test scores as a group vs other groups, they were still let in more than they deserved.

and that's atrocious, horrific, and most importantly fully unconstitutional.

even if you think the entirety of their group test gap is due to "racism" (which you need to

College acceptance has never been fully about academic merit and its even less so now that any and all protections have been removed.

But to claim people of color are the recipients of charity while white people unilaterally receive the benefits of a corrupted acceptance process and to then use that to upend affirmative action is actively evil


by coordi k

College acceptance has never been fully about academic merit and its even less so now that any and all protections have been removed.

But to claim people of color are the recipients of charity while white people unilaterally receive the benefits of a corrupted acceptance process and to then use that to upend affirmative action is actively evil

white people aren't the beneficiaries. they entered very closely to their test results even with AA.

Asians were *massively* discriminated against, every other group was a beneficiary (natives more than blacks iirc, but there are so few of them the focus in on blacks)


1. Affirmative action dictated that entities have a plan to "ensure diversity" in their organization to be eligible for government funding
2. This was a self established plan and there was minimal government oversight
3. Asian students felt they were being screwed under affirmative action
4. The findings from that case determined white people were getting accepted more than they were supposed to be (not over represented, over accepted)
5. This was used to repeal affirmative action, which was designed to protect people of color

So a corrupted internal process that allowed white people to benefit from the corruption was used to repeal something that was originally enacted to protect people of color.

At no point in this story did people of color receive charity or oversized benefits from affirmative action

And, again, the original case was only pertinent because affirmative action existed


Is it just me or does the EO re: antisemetic rhetoric on college campuses seem to be against the values of the 1st amendment?


by wreckem713 k

Is it just me or does the EO re: antisemetic rhetoric on college campuses seem to be against the values of the 1st amendment?

link it and highlight the parts you think are a violation of the 1a

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