Diamond in a Day - CET Total Rewards
Is it still possible to get Diamond in a Day?
I have read about it in the past, just curious.
As the OP of the "Pokeyman Push" digital roulette tier credit hack - yes, it is a strategy designed to minimize the cost of obtaining tier credits for diamond status. Similar to the good old days when you could purchase diamond status by signing up for the Founders Card. IMO, less downside risk overall than video poker, although I'm sure some would disagree.
This is exactly my goal. Just get the status while spending the least amount. lol
I played 9/5 JoB VP at the high limit bar when I was there around New Years. Have they removed these machines or changed the game?
It's true they don't have 9/5 at the 25c level or anything close to it. I only found it at the $5 level ($25/hand). But if you are trying to get several thousand tier credits, you can't really play at 25c anyway.
Good suggestion. I briefly walked in the high limit area but didn't look at the bar. I'll check that out this weekend. I did check out the other 2 bars on the main floor and the VP machines in the corner behind the Caesars Rewards area. But only looked for the lower denominations. I'll probably just start with a few hundo at a $1-$5 level and if i blow that move down.
I think it's true that VP will have a better EV but greater "downside risk" than e-roulette or other electronic casino games.
In a game like roulette or baccarat, your mean and median loss will be about the same. You're basically betting on series of coin-flips, so it will closely resemble a binomial distribution.
In VP (at least JoB-type games), the "upside risk" is highly concentrated toward times when you hit a royal flush. But in any given day, your chance of hitting a royal is petty low. On
I haven't hit a royal in four years of going 3 or 4 times a year, so I pretty much discount the royal as not going to happen. It sounds like the ev is about the same as roulette then, except with a much higher risk of ruin.
I inquired what the TC were for WSOP buy ins - this is for 2024 events and posted it earlier in this thread
"I have received the information you were looking for. Approximate Tier Credits Earned for WSOP Events in 2024:
$600 - 75
$777 - 80
$1000 - 100
$1500 - 145
$10000 – 595"
I doubt ((but don't know for sure) if they are multiplier eligible if you time your buy ins correctly.
Just confirmed with WSOP support - Poker and WSOP are not included in these X times promotions.
I haven't hit a royal in four years of going 3 or 4 times a year, so I pretty much discount the royal as not going to happen. It sounds like the ev is about the same as roulette then, except with a much higher risk of ruin.
My experience with VP is that, excluding royal flushes, you hit your long-run expectation in a relatively short period of time, but it takes a really long time for the royals to even out. (I also never play games with really high payouts for other hands like AAAA2.)
I believe I am actually slightly ahead lifetime playing VP, due to the fact that I am a bit "over-royaled". As in, I recall I've hit 7 royals in my life, when my expectation should be about 5. It translates into something on the order of $1,000,000 coin-in and $1,002,000 coin-out.
Would this work? Is this legal? (meaning they dont try and penalize someone for doing it). You and a buddy both play the same electric roulette game. One bets black and your buddy bets the same amount on red. just keep betting and rebalancing when you need to. obviously u lose on 0s. You earn half the TCs as the other 36 number strategy but u also have basically half the risk.
Would this work? Is this legal? (meaning they dont try and penalize someone for doing it). You and a buddy both play the same electric roulette game. One bets black and your buddy bets the same amount on red. just keep betting and rebalancing when you need to. obviously u lose on 0s. You earn half the TCs as the other 36 number strategy but u also have basically half the risk.
I'm sure they're fine with you losing 5.4 percent of each bet in ev with reduced variance assuming you and your buddy cross book.
Would this work? Is this legal? (meaning they dont try and penalize someone for doing it). You and a buddy both play the same electric roulette game. One bets black and your buddy bets the same amount on red. just keep betting and rebalancing when you need to. obviously u lose on 0s. You earn half the TCs as the other 36 number strategy but u also have basically half the risk.
Yes, this would work. I think you could also bet a much smaller amount on the zeroes to eliminate risk entirely. And I believe you could do it entirely by yourself by just playing two adjacent machines at the same time. As I mentioned before, I've done this on electronic baccarat, always betting banker on one machine and player on the other (with a smaller bet on ties). Just make sure you know the TC conversion rate of the machine, as for many of these electronic casino games, it is very bad.
Yes, this would work. I think you could also bet a much smaller amount on the zeroes to eliminate risk entirely. And I believe you could do it entirely by yourself by just playing two adjacent machines at the same time. As I mentioned before, I've done this on electronic baccarat, always betting banker on one machine and player on the other (with a smaller bet on ties). Just make sure you know the TC conversion rate of the machine, as for many of these electronic casino games, it is very bad.
You could add some amount on zeros to reduce and minimize losses but no there is no combination of bets that eliminate all risk. No matter what combination you use roulette has a negative EV. Best you could do is lock in this loss rate with zero variance.
If there was some combination of bets that guaranteed a win you could not get a seat on roulette or baccarat in any casino.
I've been getting my daily tier bonuses during 10x. I assume they aren't going to lower my 10x bonuses, right?
Yes, believe it is 4000 earned for a 36k bonus this time.
You could add some amount on zeros to reduce and minimize losses but no there is no combination of bets that eliminate all risk. No matter what combination you use roulette has a negative EV. Best you could do is lock in this loss rate with zero variance.
If there was some combination of bets that guaranteed a win you could not get a seat on roulette or baccarat in any casino.
Locking in a loss rate with zero variance does eliminate all risk. You're basically buying tier credits at a guaranteed rate. Eliminating risk is not equivalent to guaranteeing a win.
Forgive me if this has been posted previously, but what is the expected loss doing the roulette trick to earn 5k TC in a day?
Forgive me if this has been posted previously, but what is the expected loss doing the roulette trick to earn 5k TC in a day?
I’m at Danville right now, and noticed that the electronic craps and roulette machines all have plaquards stating that TC conversion is 50:1. So at least here, the roulette strategy would be very bad.
Wooohoo. I finished the week up ~1550ish TCs at Danville during the 10x. The promo credits should be added within a week after the promo ends which should give me my diamond status. If i get the credit card and max the bonus TCs that might push me to diamond plus.
FYI, I earned probably 95% through the 7/5 JoB video poker machines playing mostly .25 max bet. The rest from slots. Overall probably down $400 which i was more than willing to pay for diamond. It was a long grind but well worth it IMO. Good luck if you're still grinding.
If you earn diamond, etc now, does it still expire in Jan/Feb 2026?
2027
New and very interesting wrinkle: Caesars Rewards Visa Card holders now get 15,000 TC with annual spend of $50,000. It seems you can buy Diamond again.
Completed it at Lake Charles location. VP only gives 2x but all other gambling is 10x during the promotion. Made some sports bets, played a little 3 card poker and ultimate TX Holdem and grinded slots. Ended up -$550 which I was happy about. That included the 1 night hotel.
New and very interesting wrinkle: Caesars Rewards Visa Card holders now get 15, 000 TC with annual spend of $50, 000. It seems you can buy Diamond again.
Maybe I'm missing something else, but read this carefully and it says $5k gets you the 5k TCs like before, but $50k spend gets you 15k in REWARDS CREDITS (i.e. not Diamond). Pretty messed up to put this in the same sentence:
"5, 000 Tier Credits for $5, 000 Spend, 15, 000 Reward Credits® for $50, 000 Spend
Limit of one time per calendar year. Offer is exclusive to Caesars Rewards Visa Signature® Credit Card holders enrolled in the Caesars Rewards program. Balance transfers and cash advances excluded."
https://www.caesars.com/myrewards/partners/cr-visa
