Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
The idea that "Black people can't be racist" stems from a sociological perspective on racism that emphasizes power dynamics over individual prejudice. This view posits that racism is not just about personal biases or actions but is fundamentally tied to systemic power structures that historically and disproportionately favor white people over other racial groups, particularly Black people in Western contexts like the United States. According to this framework, racism requires both prejudice and the institutional power to enforce it, oppress others, or maintain systemic inequality. Since Black people, as a group, have not historically held dominant institutional power in these societies, some argue they cannot be "racist" in the same way white people can, even if they express prejudice or hostility toward other races.
This concept often contrasts with the more common, dictionary definition of racism—prejudice or discrimination based on race—which doesn’t require systemic power and can apply to anyone. Critics of the "Black people can’t be racist" idea argue that it redefines racism in a way that excludes individual accountability and ignores instances where Black individuals or groups might hold power in specific contexts (e.g., majority-Black communities or nations).
Origins and Popularization
The idea builds on academic theories from the mid-20th century, particularly within critical race theory and sociology. A key influence is the 1970 book *Racism and Psychiatry* by psychiatrists William H. Grier and Price M. Cobbs, which explored how systemic oppression shapes racial dynamics, implying that racism is a tool of the powerful. However, the specific phrasing and popularization of "Black people can’t be racist" gained traction later, especially in the late 1980s and 1990s, as critical race theory (developed by scholars like Derrick Bell and Kimberlé Crenshaw) entered academic discourse and began influencing activist circles.
It became more widely known outside academia during the late 20th and early 21st centuries, particularly with the rise of social justice movements. The phrase itself is often attributed to discussions in Black activist spaces and was amplified by figures like sociologist Eduardo Bonilla-Silva, whose work (e.g., *Racism Without Racists*, 2003) emphasized racism as a structural phenomenon. By the 2010s, with the growth of social media and movements like Black Lives Matter, the idea spread rapidly online, often as a rebuttal to accusations of "reverse racism." Posts and debates on platforms like Twitter (now X) helped cement it in popular discourse, especially among younger, progressive audiences.
While exact origins are murky—since it evolved organically through academic and activist channels—its prominence today reflects a broader shift toward viewing racism through a lens of power rather than intent alone. The idea remains divisive, with supporters seeing it as a nuanced critique of history and detractors arguing it dismisses real-world prejudice from any source.
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Are D2 and CN related or something? What’s the relationship here?
You convinced me, Craig, that marginalized minorities would indeed struggle to perform systemic racism without the institutional control needed to implement it. That makes a lot of sense to me, good argument.
And to extrapolate that to your point, I now understand what Crossnerd meant when she said that all men, as a group, across different cultures and civilizations, are trash. Men, in so much as "they" tend to dominate systems of power and oppression, probably are trash.
It's a bit woke for me Craig, but I definitely see where you're coming from.
You convinced me, Craig, that marginalized minorities would indeed struggle to perform systemic racism without the institutional control needed to implement it. That makes a lot of sense to me, good argument. And to extrapolate that to your point, I now understand what Crossnerd meant when she said that all men, as a group, across different cultures and civilizations, are trash
It was a genuine question for her.
It can be a gateway to terfdom or it can just deadend at pop feminism ie manspreading, mansplaining, “I’ll take my chances with the bear” feminism. And can often lead to the opposite of terfdom which is insane inclusivism/self id.
Hating men is just a symbol that you lost the plot
Every girl I know who hates men has a dark cloud that follows her around. There is nothing inherently wrong with men or women. People need to take accountability for their lives instead of placing blame on others.
Thanks for the tip, pal. How about you get ****ed, and I insert myself into whatever conversations I feel like. How'd you like that?
You actually looked at what you first wrote and decided you could do a little better? That's funny. I think I like your first post. The "How'd you like that?" part is cringe.
"Why is everyone who is not me or my kind so angry at me?" (i guess you call them liberals because you need to believe in the simple binary world that has been sold to you).
Because you people do and say dumb **** all the time and then gaslight the rest of us about it. There's a reason everyone who disagrees with you is emotionally enraged at you. Figure it out dipshit.
