Moderation Questions
Moderation Questions
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Moderation Questions

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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by craig1120 m

Would everyone agree here that on the openness scale, I would be on the extreme end? This indicates left leaning political bias.

I don't think openness as a general concept is a particularly useful metric for assessing politics. For example, I could ask whether you are open to:

--having your beliefs challenged

--having a partner, friend, or acquaintance with very different beliefs from your own

--new experiences

--unconventional social behavior (e.g., nudism, bigamy, survivalism, freeganism)

--the idea that empirically unverifiable spiritual forces are affecting the world

--fringe religions

--alternative science

--the possibility that psychic phenomena may be real (e.g., ESP, telekinesis, remote viewing, astral projection, etc.)

--the idea that world events frequently are best understood as the result of vast conspiracies

--the healing power of prayer

--the idea that democracy is not necessarily the best form of government.

I would not expect highly partisan people (or any people, really) to rate themselves as open in all these respects.


I had to look up "freeganism".


by Victor m

biggest danger for sleeping on the side of the road are police

It's best not to be sleeping on the side of the road unless you are in a country where people behave themselves like Iceland.

The people who have issues with police are usually deserving of the issues they get.


by d2_e4 m

If you mean chez, then you might be the only person in the world that this applies to; if not, then the quote feature is your friend.

I believe that chez's thinking is much clearer than his writing. For whatever reason, he sometimes just does not take the time to write out his ideas clearly. When he does take the time, I almost always can understand what he is saying.


by Rococo m

I believe that chez's thinking is much clearer than his writing. For whatever reason, he sometimes just does not take the time to write out his ideas clearly. When he does take the time, I almost always can understand what he is saying.

Don't get me wrong, I can usually understand what he's saying well enough to form the inescapable conclusion that it's some pretty dumb ****.


by mongidig m

It's best not to be sleeping on the side of the road unless you are in a country where people behave themselves like Iceland.

The people who have issues with police are usually deserving of the issues they get.

You’re the worst


by Crossnerd m

You’re the worst

Why!

It seems not to be prudent to sleep on the side of the road in the Americas.

If someone has issues with the police it's probably because they did something wrong or have an extensive criminal record. Most police are good people just doing a very difficult job.


by d2_e4 m

Don't get me wrong, I can usually understand what he's saying well enough to form the inescapable conclusion that it's some pretty dumb ****.

meh. I think the two of you secretly love each other.


by Rococo m

meh. I think the two of you secretly love each other.

Not so secret now that hole in wan has outed chez as the town skank.


by jchristo m

See the problem is that we could show you the stats on gender transitions among youth. Show you the low regret rates, the carefully regulated medical approaches, the low seriously low medical intervention rates among diagnoses. None of the evidence actually matters to you because it doesn't conform to your world view. You don't just lack the ability to understand and empathize

Perfectly stated.


by d2_e4 m

Don't get me wrong, I can usually understand what he's saying well enough to form the inescapable conclusion that it's some pretty dumb ****.

Exactly.


by mongidig m

It's best not to be sleeping on the side of the road unless you are in a country where people behave themselves like Iceland.

I sincerely hope you get robbed by the Icelandic chapter of the Hell's Angels, who will look like the most blue-eyed blond-haired mother****ers you've ever seen in your life.


by d2_e4 m

I totally get the reasons for not using public transport if you can afford it - comfort, convenience, not being restricted by timetables, etc, but "not being around scummy people" is so puerile and cretinous it's almost caricaturish.

tbh this is just false in many places. You have no idea how reality is in many places.

I take buses regularly living in the medieval center of a northern italy city, parking doesn't exist, having a car is pointless in my situation, taxis aren't available many times (too many tourists, capped licenses because of illiberal government, uber and equivalent banned).

When my daughter will go outside i don't know how to deal with it. I will probably buy her a motorpad as soon as she can legally use one (14), but that means 0 alcohol with means living like ascetic monks which i don't expect anyone with 50% of my DNA will want to.

I have no solution because taking a bus alone as a 16y girl at 11 pm here is far more risky than not vaccinating for covid if you are 60, and that's for every time you don't.

The amount of clearly violently intended, and generically dangerous people using buses at night here is very high. It's clear scum which you can identify miles away. People i prepare to fight to death every time i go on a bus, and i intervened i think more than 10 times in 4 years to stop some of those trash people harassing women on buses at night. And that's with me attracting 0 of them in a violent sense, i am like the last person they will ever try to mess with: tall, fit, and i give them the stare of deaths for real, like they do understand i am just looking for an excuse to leave them in a pool of blood legally (because i actually am).

Btw this isn't very much related to immigration to be clear, it's generic young drunk adult men from poor backgrounds. It's often italians (never locals, rather imported poors from other areas).
Yes you can tell where they are actually from in italy from 20 seconds of speech (accent).

Even if you disregard all of the above (say you don't believe it, or you are only talking taking the bus in business hours, where the aforementioned risks are close to nihil), you still have pickpocketing risks, and standing on your feet.

Just the idea that you don't have a guaranteed seat and you have to think even one second about pickpocketing is more than enough to discourage anyone who has options to ever take public transportation. The lack of seating you maybe covered with "comfort", but pickpocketing risks are about being around scummy trash, and you know that exists, so i ask , why do you deny that very relevant element?


Maybe we should just ban men from riding buses after dark. That seems to be the actual issue. Shocking as always. πŸ˜€


Don't know why everyone says there are all these weirdos on the bus. I just sit peacefully at the back, nodding my head at the new passengers and masturbating and nobody ever bothers me.


by Crossnerd m

Maybe we should just ban men from riding buses after dark. That seems to be the actual issue. Shocking as always. πŸ˜€

you would have very few buses around then, the vast majority of drivers that accept to work night shifts are men.

Anyway some places around the world try "pink buses" (women-only buses). As you can expect, that's not in western countries (afaik)

http://en.people.cn/n3/2016/0429/c90000-...


by d2_e4 m

Don't know why everyone says there are all these weirdos on the bus. I just peacefully sit at the back nodding my head at newcomers and masturbating and nobody ever bothers me.

There is a code you know, they don't mess with small dick people


by Luciom m

tbh this is just false in many places. You have no idea how reality is in many places.I take buses regularly living in the medieval center of a northern italy city, parking doesn't exist, having a car is pointless in my situation, taxis aren't available many times (too many tourists, capped licenses because of illiberal government, uber and equivalent banned).When my daughter

Yeah, sure, there are those elements on public transport. As someone who has spent half my life in shady bars and pool halls and walking around on my own late at night, it doesn't really bother me. It's the same people on the bus or on the subway as anywhere else out in public at that time. That being said, I usually prefer to get taxis, for the convenience and comfort factor.


by Luciom m

you would have very few buses around then, the vast majority of drivers that accept to work night shifts are men.

Anyway some places around the world try "pink buses" (women-only buses). As you can expect, that's not in western countries (afaik)

http://en.people.cn/n3/2016/0429/c90000-...

I said ban them from riding, not driving.


by Luciom m

The amount of clearly violently intended, and generically dangerous people using buses at night here is very high. It's clear scum which you can identify miles away. People i prepare to fight to death every time i go on a bus, and i intervened i think more than 10 times in 4 years to stop some of those trash people harassing women on buses at night. And that's with me attractin

Ok Luciom, we know. Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets.

Don't worry, nurse will be along soon with your medication. Try to relax until then.



by Luciom m

The amount of clearly violently intended, and generically dangerous people using buses at night here is very high. It's clear scum which you can identify miles away. People i prepare to fight to death every time i go on a bus, and i intervened i think more than 10 times in 4 years to stop some of those trash people harassing women on buses at night. And that's with me attractin

Bro, The Warriors wasn't real life.


by Crossnerd m

Maybe we should just ban men from riding buses after dark. That seems to be the actual issue. Shocking as always. πŸ˜€

In Mexico City they have subway trains for women and children only.


Maybe we should go ever further. Maybe men need mandatory curfews. Curb this rampant nighttime violence I’m hearing about #MakeSanDiegoSafeAgain


by Crossnerd m

Maybe we should go ever further. Maybe men need mandatory curfews. Curb this rampant nighttime violence I’m hearing about #MakeSanDiegoSafeAgain

The would just cause a lot of violence and probably a violent revolution. Now if you could either abort males or do some genetic wrangling to keep them from being born in the first place you'd certainly cut back on violence in society a lot. A small percentage of males could be kept for breeding.

(not that I would approve of this...government shouldn't have that kind of power....but it might well be a better world for those who lived in it)

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