RFK - Make America Healthy? again?

For the number of deaths from Covid to decrease instead of increase, then people would have to come back to life from the dead.

hahahahahahaha I didn't even look at the graph to see it was cumulative.

this is the bio of the author of that tweet

There are no “viruses”. There is only the body’s detoxing process. No virus has ever been isolated, sequenced, or shown to cause disease. - Dr. Lanka, Dr. Cowan

That chart doesn't tell you anything about death rates

Australia had one of the lowest first world death rates while being a fairly average first world country for propensity of cases

This shows that their vaccination plan was exception in preventing deaths. Their death rate was 1/6th ours

Its hard to fault anyone for being curious but it sure is a conundrum if that curiosity universally leads to wrong conclusions on simple concepts

I suppose they do say that ignorance is bliss

ok - i absolutely will admit i have NO CLUE what elite prep schools are like for sure and willing to be very wrong there. but i mean, isnt the joke around a lot of ivy league schools, specifically yale for example, the matriculation without warrant simply because ?

And while I have seen directly and indirectly legacy childen whose family's donate some absurdly large number of dollars to an institution and watch their kids dangerously fail upwards into holding positions they absolutely have no business being in, that actually wasnt the impetus as I was thinking more along the lines of a home life where parents are probably less active in the upbringing and its hired help who holds their tongue alil too much fearing financial repurcussion but even that is fabricated more from tiny slivers of anecdotal **** than actual evidence as well.

eg. I m sure we've all met that kid who thinks every idea they put forth is gold because mom and dad or whoever was constant presence in formative years of upbringing only delivered/showered praise. I work in music and the amount of shitty absolutely talentless **** ups who do nothing in the way of working on getting good at music (its not a magical thing - you work hard at it, you'll get good at it) yet assume the act of creation of musical idea itself vaults it into Grammy contention worthy status type **** (also have lots of direct experience here)

The chart tells you that deaths increased dramatically AFTER the vaccine. If the vaccine worked as advertised that shouldn't have happened.

BJ before the vaccine, australia did insane lockdowns to keep cases at 0 every time 2 people had covid. They put militaries on the street in Victoria State for months because they had like 10 cases or something. They incarcerated people in camps in the northern territory

That's why they had almost no covid deaths pre vaccine.

When a vaccine became available, they recognized the immense cost of lockdowns, and nevermind the absurd unconstititional violations of human rights they entailed, weren't justified anymore because with vaccination death rates would have been low.

They reopened and lived normally, everyone got exposed to covid, most at risk people were vaccinated, and they got a fairly low amount of excess deaths overall (same as denmark and south korea at the end).

If anything that proves the vaccine isn't perfect at all, yes. But we knew that already.

You know what also changed after the vaccines? Lockdown rules and therefore infection rates. Australia had some of the most extreme lockdowns in the world and managed to largely prevent wide spread of Covid until after the vaccine was available. Once most of the population was vaccinated the rules lifted and spread was much greater but both spread and death rate were significantly lower than other countries that had wide spread of Covid prior to vaccine availability. It's actually some of the best evidence of the efficacy of the vaccine when you analyse the data properly rather than relying on the elementary school level "analysis" of pointing at graphs with no context.

Lool.

So deaths increase 24 fold after the vaccine is introduced and that indicates vaccine efficacy.

LMAO.

movies written about the elites are rarely written by people with any first hand experience so they just guess at what it would be like and generally follow a disdain for them to make their ticket purchasing audience of commoners more apt to like the film or tv show

so the most common "understanding" of the american oligarchs is a deeply false notion put forward by people who are just leaning into tropes with a hint of class warfare in which they all get the jar jar binks treatment

The data is clear and overwhelming on death of vaccinated vs unvaccinated.

If that was the argument it would be pretty terrible but it's obviously not. The death rate and infection rate of a country that only had wide spread after vaccination compared to other countries that has wide spread before vaccination is the evidence for the efficacy.

On the other hand your "analysis" is akin to looking at graphs of face mask sales sky rocketing and Covid deaths increasing shortly afterwards and concluding that face masks cause Covid deaths.

But the guy who caught a literal brainworm from handling roadkill has compelling evidence to suggest otherwise.

Yup. Harvard undergrad UVA Law grads are about 98%+ plus to pass the NY bar exam first try. It's not 100% specifically because of people like RJK jr that failed it and should not have been in either of those schools save affirmative action.

To determine the efficacy of the vaccine at preventing death related to covid you need to know the number of people infected with covid; that information is not available in the graph you posted.

Efficacy would relate to the ratio of the number of people dying compared to the number of people infected. For example you would compare the following values:

1. no vaccine --> (# of people having died from covid or covid related issues)/(total # of people infected)

2. with vaccine --> (# of people having died from covid or covid related issues)/(total # of people infected)

If the value of (2.) is less than (1.), then it would suggest the vaccine helps prevent death related to covid infection.

If you agree with that assessment, then find the data for those variables and post them here. I would imagine you can find the data somewhere on the same site where this data was presumably taken from. If you disagree with that assessment, then state why.

There is an abundance of data on vaccine effectiveness. There's no mystery or controversy here.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker...

Detrimental effect of social media and the ability to amplify absolute stupidity has ruptured the fabric of society in such an extremely harmful way because people who receive something like this are unable to identify not just the scientific fault here but simply the mathematical analysis of WHY this is so ****ing wrong.

I'm not steeped enough in medical science but what i can also note is that the isolated/sequenced portion is liekly to be a gross misrepresentation. There are viruses that for all intensive purposes are simply inactive "things" that until they find a host could be classified as "dead" --- SCIENCE DUDES PLEASE CORRECT THE RECORD HERE IF YOU CAN.

Further dissection - "the body's detoxing process" - the concept of allergy is when the body incorrectly identifies something as harmful and so reacts and this reaction is both unecessary but also taxing on the body (extra work being done by its processes that could just be ignored)

basically the entire ****ing statement reveals itself to be written by someone who clearly has no real medical experience. and I would postulate further that the attribution is actually complete fabrication added as what i would say is an unethical attempt to dissuade people from approaching its contents with skepticism and just accept because: it says Dr 1 and Dr 2 so who am i to argue?

Ok so another clear societal problem we face and this one is so easy to solve and i hope a lot of ya'll take a moment to reflect:

ITS OK TO NOT KNOW **** ABOUT A TOPIC.

Its also completely fine to say "****, i misinterpreted i was wrong"

Its also ok to read some **** on the internet about a topic and STILL not be able to offer a proper analysis of topic.

This is not indicative of stupidity or ignorance or anything like that. In fact, if someone showed me that dumb ****ing graph and then eventually realized how stupid it was and acknowledged as much, I'd say thats representative of a MUCH BETTER SITUATION than the one where its pretty much: you walk outside at night and look up at the moon. its a sliver. You conclude the moon is not a sphere and are now unwilling to change that conclusion.

This is the highway to a destructive destination.

I'm not a ****in surgeon. I can cut a steak. I can use a scalpel. There is no group of people cutting me down because i cant remove an appendix. its cool, i dont feel liek i need to know how to do that. there's experts.

just like data analysis. even if i couldnt explain why that graph is not representative in any way of the conclusion is wants to assert, I wouldn't feel some affront to my intelligence or ego as a result.

AND YET.

what the **** is goin on with people?

The sheer pathological and narcissistic traits we see in Trump are not hallmarks of excellence, they are indicative of a VERY negative self assessment masked with mountains of bullshit. The guy has start meetings with a litany of "tell me why im the best otherwise i'll get upset"

you wanna talk snowflake? jesus christ. if im good at somethin, i dont need some ******* to acknowledge it. I KNOW IM GOOD AT SOMETHING. its truth is indifferent to the opinion of the outside. sure its nice to be acknowledged but that doesnt change whether or not you are good at something. But the necessity to receive outside praise indicates the opposite of competence.

If this is easier to understand by removing trump as the centered example, lets do that. maybe it will help my point.

What's going on here is Brian James is a supremely stupid individual with a particularly deplorable flavor of Dunning-Kruger effect flavoring his posts here. You will never come across a dumber, more stubborn person in your entire life than he is, and you are wasting a lot of time by talking sense to him. I made that mistake for way too long before I finally just blocked him and started ignoring him. My life has been immeasurably better since doing that.

Sure. That's easy.

There was approximately a 24 fold increase in cases and approximately 24 fold increase in deaths.

So it appears the vaccine didn't prevent any deaths.

Hope that helps.

Deaths pre-vaccine ~1000, total deaths as of April 2024 ~24,000. A ~24 fold increase.

Cases pre-vaccine ~28,000, total cases as of April 2024 ~11,800,000. A ~420 fold increase.

gjge

(Of course these numbers by themselves aren't useful for proving anything without a few more calculations but you did a good job of showing that you have zero idea what you're talking about)

You also need to remember that deaths were inflated because of reasons.

Yes because cases increased more than 100 fold