The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

Bad beats are part of the game. I understand that. But after absorbing more than my fair share on Poker Stars I switched

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22 July 2008 at 04:53 AM
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by TeflonDawg

You were given the answer like 3 months ago but you insist on continuing to embarrass yourself instead of taking the L and moving on:

Teflon, to embarrass yourself?

Don't you think guys, who insult others with no reason embarrass themself?

Btw, what is "instead of taking the L"? Don't know the phrase, sorry.

At the moment, i do know the game is badly rigged. Yeah, it's pretty hard to bring this idea to the society of players half of which are saying "i'm pro" but are interested in keeping the game as it goes.

The other half hasn't got enough analytical skills to understand what I am talking about.


by Slugant

If one post could end this thread it would have already been done. But yours certainly doesnt even come close.First of all there is the issue of proven guilt. I can make claims here that you are a cheater and say "well i cant prove he is cheater but he cant prove he isnt so therefore the truth lies in the middle". This is not how it works. There is an innocence til proven guilt

I didn't claim players are not better than they were in the past. I'm claiming right now that online players are not better than life players. They're the same sucky players. Obviously at the same relative stakes they're going to be better. So if you take 1-2 live the 1-2 players online are better. But most 1-2 live player play smaller online. So if you were playing 50 no limit or a limit similar to that you're getting the same sucky play as that you would live. But somehow it's harder to win at 50 no limit online then it is in a live game. This makes no sense because you got the same sucky players playing both those limits. Win rate should be about the same. The main thing that stops win rates from being the same is the fact that the pots are smaller online


by jungmit

I can end this whole thread in this one post. Number one it may be random, it may not be random, but nobody will ever prove it one way or another. It's an impossibility.

I don't think people really understand that if you play poker correctly and continually put your money in the pot in +EV situations while also actually knowing what you're doing, then you will print money. In order for that to be possible, you have to trust the RNG is actually random because then the math does not work out. The problem that most of you have is you really do not understand variance will take you thru peaks and valleys and you have to account for things like risk of ruin and actually know wtf you're doing with your bankroll

If you think you can run up a bunch of money and that you're going to keep it all, then you have no clue what you're doing. For example, if you're destined to make $2,000 in a month or something, then it's not going to a few bucks a day until you hit $2k. You're gonna make like $10k and then lose $8k to net $2k. The morons itt will do something like win $10k, withdraw half, and claim they're getting cheated as they go on the $8k downswing. You need volume and to actually have a true win rate for this to even be possible and then you have to not lose your mind and/or tilt when things get rough. An extremely tall task in today's era with high rake, low rakeback, and less fish than ever to be split among the regs/sharks

by jungmit

Number two if someone did prove it it wouldn't matter people are still going to play no sight is ever going to get shut down because of it they probably won't even get fined because of it.

What site(s) should be shut down? The problem I have with people who say this is I've played at a lot of them. There is no discernible difference from my perspective, and I've put in massive volume at PartyPoker, 2 iterations of PokerStars, Full Tilt, several others. The way people blame and accuse the site itself would mean they all have to be rigged and from everything I know they are very clearly not. It's those people blaming and accusing who can't wrap their head around the fundamental aspects of poker in general and how variance affects the games and the individual psychologically

I have tried to explain to people politely over the years and to this day people just explode into pure denial of reality. They'll keep playing to the bitter end because their egos can't simply walk away or concede incompetence. I'll never understand it. I admit incompetence on a daily basis by choosing to not play games I don't believe I can beat, or individual players I believe are just simply better than I am. If a player can't even figure stuff like that out, then they probably shouldn't play at all or need to gain experience so eventually they do begin to understand. But it's a massive learning curve

by jungmit

Number three if possibly could be not random. We will never know. The reason they give you is that the online games are tougher because the players better. Which is complete BS. The same losing player that's playing one two in a casino is the same losing player that's playing 50 no limit and 100 no limit online. It's the same suck. They're not better online as a whole. The only

This is all completely wrong. Live players and games are much, much softer than their online counterparts. The pots are smaller because the players are literally more competent and play tighter. Fish are fish, but they are fewer and further between online and the average player in terms of skill has done nothing but improve over the years

The rake since day 1 has done nothing but go up. Every time the rake increases, some winning players in the player pool become losing players. Everyone across the board makes less and loses more

by Johnmir

Teflon, to embarrass yourself?Don't you think guys, who insult others with no reason embarrass themself?Btw, what is "instead of taking the L"? Don't know the phrase, sorry.At the moment, i do know the game is badly rigged. Yeah, it's pretty hard to bring this idea to the society of players half of which are saying "i'm pro" but are interested in keeping the game as it goes.The

Lmao the only person who is embarrassed here is you

There really isn't much to say anymore as it's very clear you're a wackjob who just keeps saying the same (incorrect) things over and over

All I did was come into the thread and offer my own insight and info but there is nothing left to do but point and laugh

by jungmit

I didn't claim players are not better than they were in the past. I'm claiming right now that online players are not better than life players. They're the same sucky players. Obviously at the same relative stakes they're going to be better. So if you take 1-2 live the 1-2 players online are better. But most 1-2 live player play smaller online. So if you were playing 50 no limit

Win rates are dependent on the rake and your field of opponents. Even if you transplant a live fish to the online, smaller stakes, table, that doesn't mean the win rate is going to be the same. Because it depends on the rake and field of players you're up against


by Slugant

If one post could end this thread it would have already been done. But yours certainly doesnt even come close.First of all there is the issue of proven guilt. I can make claims here that you are a cheater and say "well i cant prove he is cheater but he cant prove he isnt so therefore the truth lies in the middle". This is not how it works. There is an innocence til proven guilt

And also what I'm saying is somebody could have 200 million hands, find big discrepancies, and everybody would still dismiss it as it's just normal. The people who don't believe that it's random I'm never going to believe that it is random. And the other side that believes it's random is never going to believe that it's not random. I don't care how much proof somebody has it's never going to change your mind specifically. It'll always be explained away as something that makes sense to you. Just like the people who think it's rigged they're never going to believe that it's not rigged. They're always going to explain it away that makes sense to them. This is why you will never have an answer.


Simply untrue again

I believe a major site is not rigging their RNG unless I see proof/evidence of it. And this evidence can be correctly done, by actual raw data and analysis by someone with at least half a brain, so not Johnmir.
But to this day I still havent seen that evidence. What I do see is micro players (often losers) complain and making up data or picking out specific hands to ratify their delusions.

But also, lets think about this from an iPoker point of view. Rigging their RNG doesnt come without risks, if they get caught they probably lose their license in a lot of countries and have to pay a huge fine. So their risk is huge, but what is their possible reward??
How does iPoker benefit from rigging their RNG against Johnmir (a micro player with 4k losing hands on that site!)? Do they to it just out of pure evil? You have to be a total looney conspiracy theorist to believe this is happening. But then again this thread does attract those types of people


by Slugant

but what is their possible reward??

Can't believe you are as silly as this... Looks like it's necessary to repeat some basic economical maths -

by Johnmir

And this fits to the aim of the room's owner - maximize the commission. Software tries to help the opp to win the game.In case we play and i win all the games - the room gets (for example we play 1$ Heads-up and my opponent got 20$ bankroll)2$ (prize poo) * 10% (commission of the room) * 20 games = 4$But if the software manages to equalize our game and to let us win one by one

by Slugant

How does iPoker benefit from rigging their RNG against Johnmir (a micro player with 4k losing hands on that site!)?

Rigging vs me? Are you delusional?

If they rigged flops - once and for the first time - we managed to open all the opponents hands and saw 0,0000003% case.

It means the game is rigged everywhere else. Since it's a software mate. Hope you do know what programming is. It's not like "some angry huge guy is monitoring me playing and "shuffling" cards". Rofl.

It's obvious to a ten years old kid. But not to you.

by Slugant

I believe a major site is not rigging their RNG unless I see proof/evidence of it.

Yeah 😃, of course, that's why you say -

by Slugant

I'm not going to download something from a lunatic like yourself, next thing the boards are rigged against me as well😉

by Slugant

if they get caught they probably lose their license in a lot of countries and have to pay a huge fine.

Sure, that's why I got answers from 5 countries, but not from Curacao. They didn't even reply "We do not consider your information relevant." Just no answer. Awesome, just a customer ignoring looks like iPoker is under a huge risk.

Okay, anyway, if a guy don't watch news, and have no idea that companies go to break laws to get extra incomes, he is probably some adult guy with a brain development level of 5 years old kid.

by jungmit

And the other side that believes it's random is never going to believe that it's not random.

In case they are silly or addicted to gambling - no, they won't believe any facts. They can be also interested in the scam, if they win money generating a huge activity in the room by playing several table simultaneously.

by TeflonDawg

What site(s) should be shut down?

I would start from iPoker.
Never played anything expensive there, not even tried - personally, not even interested, but it's a scam.

by TeflonDawg

Lmao the only person who is embarrassed here is you

There really isn't much to say anymore

Deep view. I enjoyed your arguments 😉


You say you never played anything expensive on iPoker. But you havent on any other site either. On Stars you are the same 10nl losing player. That is the only fact that surrounds you, not your "analysis"

Also, why are you emailing countries? And why is it suspicious in your eyes that Curacao is not mailing you back? You know ipoker (ie playtech) has its license in Great Britain. GGpoker actually holds their license in Curacao so they would be the shady site.

Other responses that you have gotten "from countries" had said nothing about rigging or unfair gaming, all they mentioned was licensing.

If you had proof you would have a case in court. Instead you are just mailing random places and the customer service there is nice enough to answer you. But nothing is done with your data. And rightfully so 😉

Furthermore, now you say they are not rigging flops...
But most of your many many screenshots only contain a flop and, in your eyes, were proof of rigging. How do you combine these 2 contradictory statements?
If they rigging is done elsewhere (ie holecards, turn and river) why would you make so many screenshots of only flops?
And once again, if you can predict the turns and river, why are you a losing loser at micro stakes?

Edit: this is you ranting about flops (which now arent rigged anymore all of a sudden): https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...
You say: "After predicting the following behavior of iPoker's software (the developer of the software is Playtech PLC) - the software provokes a player who folds strong hands on a preflop by dealing a flop according to his starting hand."

So you can predict the flop? Or at least, you could. You change your narrative a few too many times.
Also you claim these hands are played subsequently. But you can the see the Button move around from one place to another instead of just clockwise (what would happen if these hands were in fact played right after each other).

The last laughable thing about this all is the fact that you are playing a €0.50 bounty hunter and think you have the slightest clue about poker/data.


by Slugant

You say you never played anything expensive on iPoker. But you havent on any other site either. On Stars you are the same 10nl losing player. That is the only fact that surrounds you, not your "analysis"

We have already discussed that I have been a tournament player


And you have already seen a part of this tournaments history. But you do not even remember the dialog.

by Slugant

And why is it suspicious in your eyes that Curacao is not mailing you back? You know ipoker (ie playtech) has its license in Great Britain.

GB has answered. I don't know if they are going to act. I do not need them to act. Their citizen need that, in my opinion.

But Red Star Poker ("RSP Entertainment N.V.") is registered in Curacao -



(GCB - a logotype of The Gaming Control Board of Curacao)

by Slugant

If you had proof you would have a case in court. Instead you are just mailing random places and the customer service there is nice enough to answer you.

Never mailed this to customer service. It's not their "level of info". Only mailed to gambling supervisors. And it's, actually awesome, many of them answered. They do not answer EVERYONE. More then that, I sent the material on "@info.com". And many of them (Czech, The UK, Switzerland, Russia) redirected it to special groups to analyze. What for did they do this? Or did they decide to lie in stead of saying "This company is not registered here. We can't help you with this."?

They could easily do so, and it would be much more convenient for them. In stead, they answered that my analysis is deep enough and they are investigate the case.
I mean, okay, they are probably lying. But I don't see a reason to lie, since they can just refuse to consider the materials.

I won't waste such an energy to sit in Curacao's court. It's enough that I have already done a big work, objectively. Few people in the world are able to perform this.

It's Russian. But still - my position and it's upgrade in Zurich Insurance



My specialization is maths modeling (cathedra of the theory of probabilities and mathematical statistics)



My diploma (the final work) - "Development of the software for Texas Hold'em poker statistics analysis" - yeah, mate, it's my final work in the university.


by Slugant

Furthermore, now you say they are not rigging flops...

I said "If they rigged flops - once and for the first time - we managed to open all the opponents hands and saw 0,0000003% case. It means the game is rigged everywhere else."

May be my English... Have to admit. I meant "since the game is rigged on these flops, it's rigged everywhere". The word "if" was probably used the wrong way.

by Slugant

If they rigging is done elsewhere (ie holecards, turn and river) why would you make so many screenshots of only flops?

Because it's easy to understand for people (watching flops). Preflop is also analyzed -




by Slugant

And once again, if you can predict the turns and river, why are you a losing loser at micro stakes?

You took 4K hands - it's a fun (very short) distance, where I tested the software. So that, I intentionally chose a low limit.

But yes, it's impossible to win vs the software, because
1. Pokerstars software - to avoid your bankroll extra growth - blocks all-ins winning on a prefinal table of MTTs, if you start playing only "positive" hands (and they are the next after iPoker to go)
2. Red Star poker's software - to avoid your bankroll extra growth - starts to generate only hands that are negative for a player, who managed to "fool" the software. Every hand, one of opponents get AKo/AKs/TT+ hand to block you in the game cone. It's hard to understand, but yes, that's a software, and they predict this kind of stuff. I'm surprised they didn't ban me from PS and iPoker.

by Slugant

So you can predict the flop? Or at least, you could.

I can predict if the hand is positive for me. If I got AQo on a preflop, I do know, if someone got a better hand behind me (according to the software algorithm it's possible to know) -
(a picture from Russian poker forum)


In case you think, it's just some random guess. Russian guys had this description. I played an MTT, and pushed around 10 premium hands/pocket top pairs. And I folded ONLY this hand AQo. I mean, I somehow "guessed" only one hand to be beaten )), at the same time I confidently push -


And Russian guys have already saw this. But they ask me to make a stream on youtube to comment the logic, and prove I do really "read" the software behavior. They can't believe it's possible, rofl... And i'm going to do a stream, where I will play 5-10 SnG's where anyone can just see, that I almost never "miss".

by Slugant

Also you claim these hands are played subsequently. But you can the see the Button move around from one place to another instead of just clockwise

Because I only show hands

- I folded preflop
- my opponents played postflop (the flop was dealt)

That is why in terms of game cones it's not "one by one" sequence - some of them I played on a postflop (didn't for on a preflop), or the flop wasn't dealt.

by Slugant

The last laughable thing about this all is the fact that you are playing a €0.50 bounty hunter and think you have the slightest clue about poker/data.

I have no reason to test the software and to show how it work on higher limits. Cause it's obvious - in case micros are rigged, higher limits are also rigged for sure.

And yeah, my education is not just about analyzing data, it's about analyzing Texas Hold'em data. But of course I haven't got a clue about analyzing poker data, lol.


You dont have a clue about analyzing poker data. Everything you've shown confirms that. And you are the only one who doesnt see it. Just the fact that you know Excel doesnt make you a qualified analist.

You say you have no reason to test the software at higher limits.. You have no reason to test the software, period. You are not the poker players' savior coming in to save everyone from rigged games. You are a losing micro cash game players and maybe breakeven tournament player. A players who claims he is of professional level but doesnt play higher than $7 buyins...

Also you say "I can predict if the hand is positive for me. If I got AQo on a preflop, I do know, if someone got a better hand behind me (according to the software algorithm it's possible to know) -
(a picture from Russian poker forum)"
This must be bad english because I cant make anything of it. I am not a native English speaker as well but this doesnt show proof.
You just show a screenshot of AQo with someone else having KK. If I show a screenshot of AQo with someone having AJo behind me, does that disprove it??? This is non-saying and nobody would regard this as being even close to evidence, which you do a lot.

But then you say, according to the software algorithm it's possible to know
This is too vague for evidence. Its like me saying "according to the look in johnmir's eyes on the youtube video the guy is delusional". Do you accept this as evidence or do I need to explain what is delusional about you... Of course I do.

So explain the algorithm that makes sure when you get Aqo someone behinds you gets KK. You have shown loose screenshots, they dont say anything. You make up excel sheets with filled in numbers (this doesnt say anything either). You say you know the algorithm, explain it.
But if you were actually smart, you would beat the game with this algorithm. There are a lot of players who dont have the skill you have of predicting cards/outcomes and they actually make a living out of poker.. why dont you?🙂

Lastly about gaming commissions answering you back. I havent seen one reply back that is about rigging (and remember this is a rigged poker thread, not a licensing thread). They are concered about the law and licensing. You say "In stead, they answered that my analysis is deep enough and they are investigate the case". They havent said that about your rigging analysis and you know this. Cmon man stop twisting and turning. Get professional help and leave poker alone, its the best thing for you.


See Slugant thats exactly the point. He is down because he is getting cheated!

How do you not get that? John is loosing but John is an expert level player! So what can the explanation for that be?


by TeflonDawg

What site(s) should be shut down?

by Johnmir

I would start from iPoker.
Never played anything expensive there, not even tried - personally, not even interested, but it's a scam.

by Slugant

Amazing


Yea a negative roi is quite amazing at an average stake of €0.43, especially for a "professional level player"

I guess he is professional level delusional but nothing else. How do you see your tournament results Johnmir, eapecially as a self proclaimed tournament player?🙂


Guys, you kidding me...

Look at that!

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...

The fact is that you start to discuss my micro limit results on iPoker, where I was testing the software to stop the scam - says a lot.

And it's even more fun that you think a guy of 39 years old age making this kind of analysis






and knowing so many nuances of rooms software will EVER play micros for any other purpose then testing the software. It's a pure fun, like I talk to 10 years old kids.

You simply can't produce a **** about the analysis and facts of rigging. Because if you could - for sure you wouldn't discuss me.

Thank you, guys, I appreciate your attention to me personally

but I'm here to discuss rigging. My gaming level should be discussed in any other topic, but here people come to watch

by Johnmir

I will try to explain you. Look at the thread's name - "The great Poker is rigged debate" 😀What are people supposed to post here?1. Facts of rigging the game (evidence)2. Rare cases/hands to draw attention of players to a specific behavior of the software3. Statistics of the game showing dependencies in card dealing process (proofs, calculations, etc)4. Methods of rigging the


by Johnmir

The fact is that you start to discuss my micro limit results on iPoker, where I was testing the software to stop the scam - says a lot.

And it's even more fun that you think a guy of 39 years old age making this kind of analysis

No I am discussing your micro limit results is because there are no other results
You've only played micro stakes games. You've never beat them so you could never move up in stakes. That says a lot

And wtf you're 39?? I saw your youtube video and assumed you were 50. Living in Russia seems even more unhealthy than expected


by Slugant
by Johnmir

The fact is that you start to discuss my micro limit results on iPoker, where I was testing the software to stop the scam - says a lot. And it's even more fun that you think a guy of 39 years old age making this kind of analysis

No I am discussing your micro limit results is because there are no other resultsYou've only played micro stakes games. You've never beat them so you c

don't believe what they say about russia. My pet bear won't lie.


by Slugant

I saw your youtube video and assumed you were 50. Living in Russia seems even more unhealthy than expected

Haha!

Seriously, living in Moscow is more then comfortable... But I chose a pretty complicated life, but it was still unusual. At least it was REAL.

I was a successful analyst and a project manager. But decided to live office life and moved to sport. Managed to start from zero and beaten after only two years my income which I have had in finance. Became a successful tennis coach.

At the same time I wanted to test my abilities and worked very hard as a tennis player, not only as a coach. I trained too much, and got a hard injury and even doctors didn't manage to help with this. I lost an ability to walk... But managed to bring myself to a normal life totally alone (I had to study one more "sphere" - medicine for this).

While I was badly injured I was testing the software of different rooms trying to understand what is really going on. Just decided to use my statistical skills.

Now I'm working as a coach again, all the calculations I presented here was made 3 years ago. I almost don't play nowadays. And I look older cause, probably, a pretty huge stress regarding these hard years of fighting for the health. I don't feel "tired" at the same time. Pretty fresh actually. I regret I had to waste so much of my life time to explain players what is really going on... But who else, lol.


so you've switchef from succesful analyst, project manager and tennis coach to unsuccesful micro stakes loser?? makes sense🙂

It seems that everything you type is a lie.
And the biggest lie of course is that you tell everyone that you are a professional level player.
If you truly think you are a professional level player what does that say about your other claims... Are you a financial expert because you once found 10 roebel on the floor? Are you a succesful tennis coach because you once hit a ball. That does seem to be the low bar for you.


Johnmir you are wasting your time with these forum trolls and desinformants.

You should not even waste your energy to react to all these statements that are just focussing on discrediting you as a human ad hominem or your results instead of the patterns that you detected.

Just focus on publishing pattern results instead of feeding toxic people.

They will try to turn the most rediculous and self explaining thing against you just to make online poker look legit.

That is their mission, and they will not stop even if that means going ito the most toxic and disgusting behaviour.

If it should ever come out officially that online poker is rigged which it is, then they will not care and just disapear from this forum and focus on YT comments and discredit people there about whatever agenda they are trying to protect.

They are flying monkeys.��


He never published any pattern, he just posts random flops and excel sheets he makes himself.
The only pattern visible is no matter what (micro) poker game Johnmir is playing, he will lose.

And its not just iPoker, he played the same strat on Pokerstars and lost in similar fashion. They must rig it exactly the same way huh🙂

MRP, you are enabling a mental patient. But then again, you probably are one yourself. Now its not even a site that's rigged, but "online poker" as a whole.

I regret to inform you guys, the reason for you being losing players at microstakes is not because every pokersite is rigging against you. Its because you are not good and smart enough, accept it.


by MagRailPro

Johnmir you are wasting your time with these forum trolls and desinformants. You should not even waste your energy to react to all these statements that are just focussing on discrediting you as a human ad hominem or your results instead of the patterns that you detected.Just focus on publishing pattern results instead of feeding toxic people.They will try to turn the most redi

Disinformants? Lmao

Have you actually looked at the "research" he's posted?

I encouraged him (and Amazing3338) to have their work peer reviewed and both literally met me with insults and something to the tune of "we're experts and have already proven everything"

I dunno about you, but if I'd done a comprehensive audit of RNGs of various sites and uncovered this supposed, massive scandal, then I'd also be looking to start multiple class action lawsuits to make these supposed, unscrupulous, corrupt sites pay for their scumbaggery. I'd be contacting Josem and/or others respected in the poker community to review my research to confirm and ensure it's accurate and not flawed so as to be solid evidence in said future class action lawsuits

It's not helping his case that he's made claims about his ability to play poker and we can literally Sharkscope his results...


And those results are with knowledge of a rigged RNG. Imagine if he didnt knew the RNG, he would be losing -50bb/100 at the micros 😃


Maybe cross post your findings to the probability or math forum. You might find someone willing to do the work and dismantle your "analysis" in depth John.


by MagRailPro

Johnmir you are wasting your time with these forum trolls and desinformants. You should not even waste your energy to react to all these statements that are just focussing on discrediting you as a human ad hominem or your results instead of the patterns that you detected.Just focus on publishing pattern results instead of feeding toxic people.They will try to turn the most redi

"flying monkeys" 😃 Haha, in fact, MRP, I have to concentrate on my own life also. I wanna try myself in offline poker. So I have to work more as a coach for a bigger bankroll for this. That's why I'm not sure I can find enough time to reactions. You are right, it takes time and energy to answer )

Yeah, more then that, I'm not sure these guys are actually able to admit online-poker is unfair. It's their reputation, they feel so PRO winning a rigged game. The difference between you, me, Amazing is that we would win a fair game, but i'm not sure - they are able to win a fair game. Otherwise they would never risk their REAL reputation arguing about FACTs of rigging. I'm afraid, online poker results in a rigged game - all the got in their life 😮

Just try to imagine. If the only thing some guy is able to do - winning in a rigged game (rofl...) What is it for this guy? These game results are the only chance to keep somehow sure his life is not senseless. Online poker world is just crazy, lol. It's so far from real life, some fake world in almost every aspect! 🤐

Thank you for support. All this can be really annoying, since having really huge problems in a real life I decided to start all this. I have to "combine" several directions at the same time. Coaching, working with my health and commenting the materials, making streams. Crazy.

It's really awesome and brave that you decided to provide your own experience, it was important in my opinion. The more players share their thoughts about this the more chances to stop this scam someday!

by Slugant

It seems that everything you type is a lie.

Man, the most important stuff that I "type" is simply checkable! All the data was uploaded. All the algorithms where described. You DO NOT NEED to believe me. You can open the game and check if this works.

After a huge positive all-in like 80% on the final table you get involved in a PREDICTABLE trap of the software. EVEN if you are a regular player. It works for everyone. Ipoker, Pokerstars, Partypoker (may be - Coin poker, Poker Dom) - it's EVERYWHERE. THE SAME model of exchanging "good wave" then "bad wave" of hands.

You took a good decision - the software generates a hand to involve you in a bad decision. And it's TESTABLE, just folding in time.

by Slugant

He never published any pattern

LMAO!

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HPf2urc...

SO MANY materials posted. It's enough to close iPoker 5 times already, lol. But it looks that they are simply interested in keeping the scam alive. Like you are!

by TeflonDawg

I encouraged him (and Amazing3338) to have their work peer reviewed and both literally met me with insults

Didn't insult you. Unexpected comment. I'm not used to insult people. Even if a guy insult me (not you) I usually avoid insults. I don't remember you insulted me, would be strange if I would insult you for no reason.

I don't know anyone here on the forum. And I don't know people, who could "approve" my research. If some people here will be interested in stopping online scam they will ask those guys, who they know to watch my materials and to check if it's correct. I did my job. And this job is just huge. I know it. That's why all this online circus is still working ... Cause you need to make a significant effort to prove it's rigged.
But all the other steps, guys, I can't lose such a huge part of my life to prove something, that looks like noone really care about.

I don't see that anyone really care if the game is rigged or not. Some players earn money with no any poker skills, some are addicted to playing.

by TeflonDawg

It's not helping his case that he's made claims about his ability to play poker and we can literally Sharkscope his results...

TD, if you could "literally sharkscope my results" you would know that i'm a winning play at least. Lol. You say you can check, but you obviously can't!

Guys show some 10K cash hands on micros, ignore ANYTHING else. Well, okay, they are probably clowns... I have won 585$ (just an example) playing 7$ SnGs in 2020, right? And I lost 150$ in 2021 playing micros. LMFAO?

585 - 150 = +++435 (MAY BE?) and we still managed to find some GENIUS who says in every branch of this forum "He is losing micros!!" Is he adequate?

Personally? TD, I do not care, cause 7$ limit - is a very low limit actually. In my opinion winning on 7$ SnGs is nothing about professional level. Any average amateur can win 7$... But it's still funny to read this pure incompetent ****, lol


So all the sites rig exactly the same way?? that doesnt seem smart now does it LOLOL

And I fact did check your results, and not just the daily very small simples you provide but actually checkable raw data & big sample. And guess what, it turned out every single time (without any exception) that over your "career" you have been a losing player.. at micro stakes!!! Now i can imagine that it is hard to live with that fact and you are rightfully embarressed but you cant just assume its because of EVERY site being rigged. The one common denominator is that you are losing player, accept the facts.

Now you keep on claiming to know the RNG and know when to fold. Why do you lose at such a big rate as micro stakes then???

There is only one scam here, its not ipoker or pokerstars, its you!

You are the one providing small samples of winning where I provide sample over 10 times that where you are losing. But then again, you've shown time and time again that you do not understand numbers. Otherwise you wouldnt be stuck losing at microstakes on every site.


by donjonnie

Maybe cross post your findings to the probability or math forum. You might find someone willing to do the work and dismantle your "analysis" in depth John.

Man, just open this video and watch -

https://drive.google.com/file/d/16d2YB55...

Lol, what do you think about this yourself? How the f*** can it look like a random game. If you say you do know "how the world works" and you are good at poker - WHAT MATH FORUM DO YOU NEED to see the game is rigged in some ****ing crazy way on those once opened hands. The first time I opened hands and see this!

And you, guys, act, like you know something about poker, but at the same time, you talk about this rigged **** like it's "normal". You kidding me once again lol...

Or do you think this picture came from Excel? Lol, it came from a REAL GAMES PLAYED VS SIT_OUT guy who opened his hands and managed to hit every ****ing flop on high BBs -


Or is it one more "random excel sheet"? Rofl, it's based on a real data that you can simply check.

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