Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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by Victor

That's a lot of words to agree that Israel broke the ceasefire like they always does

There is no current ceasefire agreement.

The ceasefire was set to last 60 days (during which time both sides accused the other of breaking it multiple times) and expired a long time ago.


by Victor

the West is just addicted to mass murder and destruction

A building full of weapons was destroyed. Can’t believe Israel would genocide those terrorist weapons like that. Literally holocaust 2.0


Can't believe Israel would blatantly break a ceasefire and promise. Then I remembered that they are very special people where the rules and words of us lesser beings dont apply.


by Victor

Can't believe Israel would blatantly break a ceasefire and promise. Then I remembered that they are very special people where the rules and words of us lesser beings dont apply.

There is no ceasefire. It expired a long time ago.

Hezbollah broke the ceasefire October 8, 2023 when it elected to open a second front during the Hamas 10/7 invasion of Israel. And except for a brief 60 day ceasefire at the end of 2024 (that both sides accused the other of breaking) that expired months ago hostilities have been ongoing, although obviously the intensity is much lower now than the first year.

Israel has strategically chosen to de-escalate, but there is no current ceasefire agreement behooving them too. And they have elected not to let Hezbollah rebuild and rearm, insomuch as they have the ability to stop them.

Obviously Israel can only do so much, and if the rest of Lebanon (and really the world) facilitates Hezbollah re-arming they probably will eventually. Which seems to be how things are going.


by Victor

Can't believe Israel would blatantly break a ceasefire and promise. Then I remembered that they are very special people where the rules and words of us lesser beings dont apply.

Ah yes the jews are so special because they have insane terrorists wanting to murder their entire people. Those evil oppressors, destroying a building full of munitions. They must only be doing that because they are bloodthirsty zionists.


you use the word Jew, not me. I always say Israeli bc I dont want to condemn an entire religion and ethnicity with the same criticisms as the Zionist extremists.


by Victor

you use the word Jew, not me. I always say Israeli bc I dont want to condemn an entire religion and ethnicity with the same criticisms as the Zionist extremists.

Zionist extremists or Zionists?

Because if it’s the latter that’s probably over 90% of Jews.

Also you said this:

Then I remembered that they are very special people where the rules and words of us lesser beings dont apply.

I’m not missing a chromosome, anyone with a brain knows what you are saying. It’s a very standard dogwhistle. You might as well have said “I’m just a stupid goyim what do I know?”


Zionism is an extremist ideology similar to the Wahabbi death squad ISIS. both are born out of the Western Supremacists that have been raping and pillaging the whole world for 100s of years.


I’m not missing a chromosome, anyone with a brain knows what you are saying. It’s a very standard dogwhistle. You might as well have said “I’m just a stupid goyim what do I know?”

I am really curious what the dogwhistle here is. its an obv fact that Zionists dont need to follow the same rules as the rest of society.


New Theroux doc coming out - The Settlers

When he meets Ari Abramowitz, a Texas settler in the West Bank who refuses to even use the word “Palestinian”, he holds his tongue. When he meets a rabbi who calls Palestinians “savages” and “camel riders”, he manages to do the same.

Then comes Daniella Weiss. A key member of the Israeli settler movement for 50 years, Weiss is Theroux’s prime target. She is able to hide her extreme views behind a friendly smile, no matter how aggressively he plays cat and mouse with her. But, at the end of the episode, they both get to each other like never before. Theroux corners Weiss and presses her on settler violence against Palestinians. She says none exists. He says he has witnessed it, notably in a video of a Palestinian being shot. She claims the Israeli shooter was acting in retaliation, then physically shoves Theroux in the hope that he’ll push her back. Instead, he does something he’s never done before. He calls her a sociopath.

Weiss would have fitted in to the thread very nicely before the pro-Israel posters ran away.


by jalfrezi

New Theroux doc coming out - The Settlers.

It was very good.


by jalfrezi

New Theroux doc coming out - The Settlers

Weiss would have fitted in to the thread very nicely before the pro-Israel posters ran away.

I watched it here. may get removed soon.

and you are correct that the exact talking points used in this thread are repeated by the settlers. Louie does a good job of exposing their depravity and hypocrisy and cruelty.


NYT:

When presented with the accusation that Israel was committing genocide in Gaza in a survey last year, 38 percent of American Jewish adults under the age of 44 agreed.

We are winning.


by Victor

I am really curious what the dogwhistle here is. its an obv fact that Zionists dont need to follow the same rules as the rest of society.

Jews have often been disparaged by anti Semites using the term "chosen people". You're using the term very special people. That can be seen as a dog whistle. But you know this. Just like you knew exactly wtf you were doing with all your previous ad nauseam Israel/Nazi comparisons. Then you get all cute and bullshit stuff like "wat? me? Whatever do you mean? Please explain it to me like I'm five I have no inkling why you'd suspect such things about me blah effin blah".

So, seeing as you'll hotly deny this and accuse me of lying etc, do you not at least see how your comment could be seen as a dog whistle? Even if you didn't mean that, which I don't believe for a second but will run with anyway for the sake of the discussion?


I am not being cute. I am directly saying that rules do not apply to Zionists. I am directly stating that they feel they are better than everyone else and dont need to follow any rules including those around rape and murder. and yes, I see a lot of parallels with other extermination campaigns committed by the West including the genocides of the Native Americans and European Jews.

dogwhistles are meant to be coded language. I am stating plainly Zionism is a genocidal, extremist, Supremacist, expansionist ideology.

the people that conflate all Jews with Israel and Zionism are you guys.


lol is this a dogwhistle?

fwiw, Netanyahu spoke after this guy and had some interesting things to say if my google translate is remotely accurate.



Gimme a Finkelstein tweet next there cutey.
And you're fooling nobody, regardless of your predicted denial.


I am not trying to fool anyone. I explicitly say that you and all Zionists are Supremacists. and the Zionists often say that themselves as well.


Don't believe you and neither does anyone else with half a brain, you're way too consistent.


by Victor

I am not being cute. I am directly saying that rules do not apply to Zionists. I am directly stating that they feel they are better than everyone else and dont need to follow any rules including those around rape and murder. and yes, I see a lot of parallels with other extermination campaigns committed by the West including the genocides of the Native Americans and European

Your definition of zionism is that the state of Israel has a right to exist. That means you think 90%+ of Jews are evil nazis. Ah but as long as Jews are saying that other Jews are bloodthirsty evil dogs you are ok with them?

And give me a break, you know what the parallels are. Even your own people don’t come to your defense because they know what you are doing.


by Victor

I watched it here. may get removed soon.and you are correct that the exact talking points used in this thread are repeated by the settlers. Louie does a good job of exposing their depravity and hypocrisy and cruelty.

lol, that guy looks really native.


by 5 south

lol, that guy looks really native.

He's from Texas but is convinced that God gave him Palestine. Daniela Weiss, who takes up a fair bit of the film, is even wonkier and more alarming than he is. The repeated encounters with IDF troops are embarrassing and depressing. They are not good quality troops, just a slovenly unaccountable ethnic militia, and they act like it.


by checkraisdraw

Your definition of zionism is that the state of Israel has a right to exist. That means you think 90%+ of Jews are evil nazis. Ah but as long as Jews are saying that other Jews are bloodthirsty evil dogs you are ok with them?

And give me a break, you know what the parallels are. Even your own people don’t come to your defense because they know what you are doing.

not really sure why you think this is some sort of gotcha or hidden agenda. I say quite openly that Israel is a genocidal extremist Supremacist project and those who support it are various levels of complicit to outright guilty. the people dropping bombs, invading Gaza, and running torture camps are indeed what you describe. others dont rise to that level.


by 5 south

lol, that guy looks really native.

oh I guess I linked the wrong tweet. heres the full video. https://x.com/theafroaussie/status/19167...

the most telling moment is when Weiss claims that she is just helping the government. I tend to take her at her word.


by Victor

not really sure why you think this is some sort of gotcha or hidden agenda. I say quite openly that Israel is a genocidal extremist Supremacist project and those who support it are various levels of complicit. the people dropping bombs, invading Gaza, and running torture camps are indeed what you describe. others dont rise to that level.

So just to be clear, you think 90%+ of Jews consider themselves untouchable superiors to everyone else and are bloodthirsty evil pigdog genociders, right?

Actually the logical conclusion here is that by your own lights you should be antisemitic, and you are justified to do so, because Jews are 90% evil bastards. Why not, right? Because anyone that is a zionist is inherently an unspeakably evil person right?

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