POG Politics Thread Version 3
Come on in! Since Dustin is taking his ball and going home, it's time to start a new politics thread.
medicine and science are increasingly marginalized and curtailed in the ironical name of "religious tolerance"
reproductive freedom is becoming criminalized
erosions of privacy are so commonplace that it is now laughable to have any expectation of it
these are not features of a healthy liberal paradigm
As fine as it ever was
Mark k is probably a liberalish based on the wiki definition I presume.
lololol Canadian voters
Trump can do anything! Even make Canada nationalistic! And change their elections!
It's true lol. Trump is such a useless piece of **** he caused a party that was vaguely associated with him to lose a 20 point lead in 3 months. This is the first time any party has won 4 consecutive federal elections. It's good to be in a country that makes it easy to vote, much less likely to elect a doddering old misanthrope that wants to kill all the brown people because he's mad about dying.
He got Quebecers to be patriotic, truly his most remarkable achievement.
Donald the 1st
If it gets him out of this country, I'm all for it.
Maybe we can trade Italy for a few guys named Luigi.
Canadians are full steam ahead on euthanasia, which seems like such a great idea cause who wants to suffer, especially when you're old and about to die anyway. But then for crazy people too, and hey disabled people, on and on. Can't end well, but good luck with that!
Soylent green is people btw.
Canadians are full steam ahead on euthanasia, which seems like such a great idea cause who wants to suffer, especially when you're old and about to die anyway. But then for crazy people too, and hey disabled people, on and on. Can't end well, but good luck with that!
Unlike US health insurers who never refuse to provide coverage for their customers in need.
edit: just reread, thought the above was the old "death panel" canard
What's wrong with people voluntarily checking out?
Some irony there in your "can't end well" verbiage.
Doctor's pledge to do no harm, allegedly
Canadians are full steam ahead on euthanasia, which seems like such a great idea cause who wants to suffer, especially when you're old and about to die anyway. But then for crazy people too, and hey disabled people, on and on. Can't end well, but good luck with that!
Yeah, this program is very much a mixed bag. It has some positives (that's a choice people ought to be able to make, and doctor's can make it more humane). It also has some serious downsides - a good friends father went that route, and his family believes he was encouraged by health care workers who took advantage of an active mental health crisis during COVID lockdown. Or, at least, that the workers didn't question his request and should have, given said mental health crisis.
I'm not really into American politics, but I was impressed to see that Trump is older than Obama, Bush and Clinton., someone who was president over 30 years ago.
his family believes he was encouraged by health care workers who took advantage of an active mental health crisis during COVID lockdown. Or, at least, that the workers didn't question his request and should have, given said mental health crisis.
This is true now in the US. It's just done on the hush hush. Generous use of morphine as end-of-life nears.
It's true lol. Trump is such a useless piece of **** he caused a party that was vaguely associated with him to lose a 20 point lead in 3 months. This is the first time any party has won 4 consecutive federal elections. It's good to be in a country that makes it easy to vote, much less likely to elect a
sorry, who is this about? so many people fit that description
sorry, high post.............
maybe I just never understood this oath, but it always seemed like bullcrap to me.
like during surgery you take a blade and cut a mother****er open. that is literally doing harm. blood spurting everywhere.
sometimes you intentionally break bones. breaking bones is like practically one definition of doing harm.
so doctor's do harm all the time, if the intent is to help ultimately. it's not just as simple as "do no harm"
I don't think it means "cause no pain"
Obsession with pain is possibly a modern phenomena.
I'm not talking about pain. I'm talking about harm.
like doctors often do harm in order to do good.
but I thought the oath was to prevent that kind of behavior, like don't do experiments on humans even its harming a small number, sacrificing them for the gretear good. cuz that's a slippery slope. so they take an oath not to do that kind of thing? idk, that's what I always thought it was. maybe I'm totally wrong
but if that's what it is, then isn't just like a matter of where the linee is? like it's ok to do the harm of cutting someone open for life saving surger, or boob implants.. but not ok to do human experiments
like the oath should be "do no harm beyond a certain point, depending on the end goal. but before that line, go nuts bro. do all the harm you judge to be justified "
Breaking someone's bone to reset it is net positive for that person. Likewise, cutting them open for surgery, etc
The Tuskegee experiments were net negative for the people it was done to, even if one could call them net positive to the world (I don't know, this is an example).
That's the difference and why the first is ok under do no harm, and the second not
"One promotion away from the top job" - lolol
The new private DC social club: Executive Branch, only $500K to join. I see the All-In podcast guys are in it. I'm still waiting my invite... (lol)
