Israel/Palestine thread

they swore up and down for over a year that Israel did not want to annex Gaza. were they lying? were they in denial? did they not understand the absurdity of their replies?

Are these horrendous IDF rape videos real?

theres a video from yesterday where a man is surrounded by soldiers with shields and presumably abused. they bring a dog in. its not clear if he is raped or what the torture entails. I will always assume the worst with Israel and the USA.

is that video you are talking about? were there more to come out?

I havent checked the news much today but did see that there were 3 "security incidents" in Gaza so far.

I think people are just bored with this topic. No one really cares about "Palestinians" or Israelis unless you are one of the tribe.

I think they were expecting the "Palestinians" to do the right thing and return the hostages. They didn't do that so now the game has changed.

pretty much. the liberals only care about them insomuch as they can gloat over their suffering to throw in the faces of actual principled leftists.

the thing they agreed to do literally the day after? its now confirmed for the umpteenth time that Israel and the USA preferred to do a genocide rather than get the hostages back. they are worth much more dead than alive. and this is why, while they havent admitted it yet, Israel has been hunting and killing hostages since the start.

Nope. 'fraid not. Despite your shrill insistence otherwise.
Babies are overrated.

Not what I asked for so I'm dismissing that. Can you provide what I asked for or not?

Definitely anti Semitism in the comments such as the liebenstraum comparison.

Since you guys complain about me asking for the full article I found it myself.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_e...

I challenge anyone to make heads or tails about where this document was presented, who it was given to, when it was produced, and so many more details that would actually give context.

To me it sounds like a recent proposal based on recent developments.

But I actually agree with the genocide crew that returning the hostages has never been Netanyahu’s priority and he has done everything in his power, with the help of Hamas, to prolong the war.

Yeah, with two different angles.

Thank you for quoting that post, I missed that victor made up a rape allegation because he hates Israel. That’s good to know how useless his point of view is going forward, for anyone thinking he was some kind of truthteller.

Victor the one who cries rape with no evidence.

theres a lot of evidence from survivors and doctors helping survivors and even from Israel itself that arrested soldiers. I just watched the video closer this time, its almost certain that he is being raped.

you cant be referring to me here given the tosser part, but regardless, i will come back and point out your raging antisemitism again on the reg once your mod goes away

Maybe their hasbara supervisors decided to assign them elsewhere.

Probably true. Hamas gave the Israeli right a golden ticket to do what they wanted, and Netanyahu needs an ongoing emergency to fend off his legal problems.

“we aren’t antisemitic, we just believe that Jews are astroturfing the internet because nobody could possibly support Jews independently because they are evil greedy bloodsuckers”

yea no other reason people might not want to interact with team rape denial

Im not seeing how that is antisemitic (in the old definition that is. ofc, in the new definition anything not absolutely fawning over Israel antisemitc). similarly, are the people who complain about the supposed pervasiveness of Russian propaganda anti-Russitic or something? no, such a notion is absurd. the problem is that you seem to think that Israel, by virtue of being Jewish in nature by their own words, is above criticism. thats bc you believe in Jewish/Israeli Supremacy.

Wait, are you saying that talking about a Russian bot network isn’t Russophobic? because prominent anti-Democrat leftists like the Grayzone and Glenn Greenwald do say this.

And yeah, when you call random people hasbra and say they have handlers, that comes off as pretty antisemitic. Is there some history of Russia being portrayed as a secret controller/illuminati/Rothschilds? Because I don’t remember such a notion growing up, maybe you have different experiences.

Don't worry, your allies the overtly fascist Italian turboposter and the eugenics freak are still here proudly defending the IDF. Although we do miss your pithy jokes about the ongoing bloodbath.

I think coordi's relaxed about name-calling so fire away, genocide-enthusiast.

Notice how whenever anything of substance is talked about the only one who even makes an attempt to engage is victor, and the people that get hard from dead palestinian babies because they can attack liberals just shrink away from it and pivot to conspiracies and insults.