Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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can you post his actual comments questioning the loyalty of Jews? not that I really care about Wilkerson. Im not really a fan of these former deep state ghouls that all of a sudden want to act like they didnt participate in mass murder and projection of the genocidal White Empire's power. kinda like Ritter and Sachs. but I digress.I doubt his comments are exactly as describe
You like to lick Putin’s balls so of course to you there’s nothing wrong with repeatedly being a guest on Russian state-controlled media. And Jakfrezi just follows whatever you think so…
Already did in my response to jal.
I doubt his comments are exactly as described. and there is nothing wrong with going on RT nor does it make someone a Putin apologist. like wtf do you guys think, they make these guys sign a loyalty oath or something? come to think of it, now who is questioning who's loyalty.
His article combined with regular appearances on RT has him sounding like a Putin apologist. As does his claim re Assad's use of chemical weapons. Russia was an ally of Assad's Syria and he's now in exile there.
maybe Feith and Wurmser are paid by Israel. I would not doubt it after a cursory look at their bios.
I do like that its fine to accuse Wilkerson of "dual loyalty" bc he spoke on RT but its antisemitic and thus the worst thing in the world of all time to question the motives of 2 guys who are clearly deeply in bed with Israel.
maybe Feith and Wurmser are paid by Israel. I would not doubt it after a cursory look at their bios.
I do like that its fine to accuse Wilkerson of "dual loyalty" bc he spoke on RT but its antisemitic and thus the worst thing in the world of all time to question the motives of 2 guys who are clearly deeply in bed with Israel.
I never accused him of dual loyalty, I said he sounds like a Putin apologist, which he does. Accusing Jews of dual loyalty is a well known anti Semitic trope.
I never accused him of dual loyalty, I said he sounds like a Putin apologist, which he does. Accusing Jews of dual loyalty is a well known anti Semitic trope.
Victor is just doing his predictable song and dance where he continuously obfuscates the discussion until you’re no longer on the topic of how wrong he is.
I never accused him of dual loyalty, I said he sounds like a Putin apologist, which he does. Accusing Jews of dual loyalty is a well known anti Semitic trope.
right but accusing people of supporting Russia is fine. its absurd. obv those guys massively support Israel. oh but its antisemitic to point that out.
right but accusing people of supporting Russia is fine. its absurd. obv those guys massively support Israel. oh but its antisemitic to point that out.
I said he sounds like a Putin apologist. I never said he supported Russia or speculated at all on his motives for sounding like a Putin apologist. He strikes me as a kook (at best). And you appear to be trying to deflect attention away from him sounding like a kook, probably due to Jal sourcing him. He also excuses Assad's mass murder by blaming it on an Israeli false flag, meaning that he's a conspiracy theorist-again at best- and a decidedly nutty one at that.
Point being that he's not a valid source calling Israeli officials liars, if his previous accusations against Israel and Jews, such as anti Semitic dual loyalty tropes are anything to go by.
He didn't accuse any non Jewish US officials or POTUS' of dual loyalty, due to America's Israel friendly stance. Just the Jewish ones. So he seems a bit biased and that's being kind.
And due to this I'm not regarding him as a reliable source, when he claims Israeli officials are liars.
right, luckily for me I dont need that guy to show that Israel are liars. I just need 2 eyes to look at the pictures and 2 ears to hear their absurd lies.
“One day, when it’s safe, when there’s no personal downside to calling a thing what it is, when it’s too late to hold anyone accountable, everyone will have always been against this.”
— Omar El Akkad
“One day, when it’s safe, when there’s no personal downside to calling a thing what it is, when it’s too late to hold anyone accountable, everyone will have always been against this.”
— Omar El Akkad
Was he referring to the lab leak theory, defunding the police being a terrible idea, or Joe Biden being addled?
right but accusing people of supporting Russia is fine. its absurd. obv those guys massively support Israel. oh but its antisemitic to point that out.
As long as you don’t care that I say that Muslims have a dual loyalty to the global caliphate then I don’t find it hypocritical. Let’s all just let the prejudice flow. Muslims should be kept out of the government because they will probably be more loyal to their extreme religion.
Was he referring to the lab leak theory, defunding the policey being a terrible idea, or Joe Biden being addled?
I think it’s probably a reference to what an ex-Israeli prime minister calls ‘war crimes’ and the ex-top IDF general calls ‘ethnic cleansing’.
But those people must be more examples of what corporal vile calls antisemites, so that would explain it.
As long as you don’t care that I say that Muslims have a dual loyalty to the global caliphate then I don’t find it hypocritical. Let’s all just let the prejudice flow. Muslims should be kept out of the government because they will probably be more loyal to their extreme religion.
right but the difference is that Jews are not kept out of positions or discriminated against for being Jews. Muslims, however are indeed discriminated against for being Muslim. and that actually illustrates how antisemitism is a bullshit thing anymore in the West so I appreciate you outlining it so well.
Netanyahu claims the younger Sinwar was killed in an air strike on the 'European hospital' in Khan Yunis a couple of weeks ago. Hamas neither confirms nor denies this, and oddly enough the IDF don't confirm it either. The IDF have not provided evidence of the claimed 'Hamas command centre' under the hospital and a neighbouring school.
I'm sorry, but trying to verify Netanyahu's claims with evidence and reporting is extremely antisemetic. Bibi said Sinwar was hiding in a hidden command bunker surrounded with children and that's all there is to it.
right but the difference is that Jews are not kept out of positions or discriminated against for being Jews. Muslims, however are indeed discriminated against for being Muslim. and that actually illustrates how antisemitism is a bullshit thing anymore in the West so I appreciate you outlining it so well.
Really? Because in my view Muslims receive preferential treatment at colleges and universities. If a white christian wrote a scathing critique of Western gay culture called “Homonationalism” they would get ostracized rather than become a celebrated author, or if Christians defended patriarchal society through the lens of cultural relativism they would be called misogynists.
Muslims get all sorts of passes from Western leftists that other religious groups never get.
this is you changing the subject to something irrelevant.
No it’s not. You claim they are categorically discriminated against and I gave you an example of how they actually receive preferential treatment. Can you actually give any concrete examples of them being kept out of positions of power because they are muslim?
Somebody writing what you consider a controversial academic paper is not proof of widespread preferential treatment. But I don't for a second believe that you aren't aware of the absurdity of your replies.
right but the difference is that Jews are not kept out of positions or discriminated against for being Jews. Muslims, however are indeed discriminated against for being Muslim. and that actually illustrates how antisemitism is a bullshit thing anymore in the West so I appreciate you outlining it so well.
Which countries are you talking about here? China certainly heavily discriminates against Muslims, India as well (but less heavily than China).
The UK does not and it actually treats then better than other natives especially if they are recent immigrants.
So which country are we talking about?
Somebody writing what you consider a controversial academic paper is not proof of widespread preferential treatment. But I don't for a second believe that you aren't aware of the absurdity of your replies.
You’re the one that said Muslims are discriminated against categorically, and refuse to back that up with anything whatsoever. I’m not indoctrinated into leftist craziness so I don’t just take it as a given that this is happening.
Do I think Muslims face prejudice? Certainly, but so do Jews, so it’s not a symmetry breaker.
Also I never said it was proof of anything, I was pointing out that if a white christian wrote homonationalism they would be chastised as a bigot rather than celebrated in gender studies classes.
Which countries are you talking about here? China certainly heavily discriminates against Muslims, India as well (but less heavily than China).
The UK does not and it actually treats then better than other natives especially if they are recent immigrants.
So which country are we talking about?
Nah China is a bastion of freedom for Muslims, don’t believe the evil CIA propaganda. India though yes truly evil because they like the West.
I'm not gonna back up that the sky is blue either.
I do want you to show any evidence that Jews face any sort of actual discrimination in the West. And that's why antisemitism is simply a bullshit term that is used to justify genocide at this point in time.
I'm not gonna back up that the sky is blue either.
I do want you to show any evidence that Jews face any sort of actual discrimination in the West. And that's why antisemitism is simply a bullshit term that is used to justify genocide at this point in time.
Honestly I don’t care about the oppression olympics leftists engage in, as I see prejudice as being more important to combat than systemic discrimination (hard to quantify/suffering from the typical problems of inductive reasoning).
If you want to say that Jews have a dual loyalty because they love Israel, I am content with that as long as you think it’s ok for me to say that Muslims have a dual loyalty because of Shariah Law and their extremist religion that says everyone is subordinate to God’s chosen people, Muslims.
Let’s just let the prejudice fly. You can say Jews are powerful figures in the ZoG and I can say I want to properly vet Muslims to make sure they aren’t terrorists. It’s a win/win.
But if you insist on evidence, just remember that Harvard had to settle a lawsuit because their sick and twisted dean didn’t want to say that calling for the genocide of Jews is prima facie harassment to Jewish students.
If you want to say that Jews have a dual loyalty because they love Israel
right but I dont say that
just remember that Harvard had to settle a lawsuit because their sick and twisted dean didn’t want to say that calling for the genocide of Jews is prima facie harassment to Jewish students.
lol. this is bc you clowns equate "Free Palestine" with calling for the genocide of Jews. again, I will never believe that you are unaware of the absurdity of your claims.
