2025 World Series of Poker May 27th - July 16th
Hehe, just said the same thing talking to a friend. That’s gonna be bad
Also:
Gotta agree with another poster before me, vibe and energy is clearly different this year, playing my first tourney now (1K NL Mystery), and it’s very quiet, strange … almost subdued
Also 2, on the topic of numbers/traffic:
Clearly way down, just this tourney last year almost had 20K entries, this is flight 3 with one more to come and we barely have 5000
There are 5 f(lights)!
Yeah, just saw that, 1 more … but still, will never get to 2024 numbers
My understanding is you have to have an account but don't actually need the app. If you show up with cash and a rewards card they will just REQUIRE an email address and you have to click a link to verify. I heard they will have tablets available for you to access your email if need be. Then they will hand you a piece of paper with a QR code on it to show the dealer.
It's still unnecessarily slowing things down but it's not like they're turning people away.
I still don't understand these corporate decisions. If requiring an email dissuades one person from registering multiple tournaments you will have to sell a lot of email addresses to make up for the loss of revenue. Plus slowing down the registration process will necessarily lead to less early bust-outs and rebuys (even in freeze outs there are other gaming options available after someone busts).
It's basically the same reason I suspect charging for parking likely leads to lower overall revenue. Sure they have this new revenue stream but if one whale goes somewhere else because they don't want to pay for parking that can be more revenue lost than a lot of parking fees can generate.
End rant.
The app is way better once people are used to it
Even as a 39 year old, having to download an app just to play is ridiculous. Like, last year when I played seemed to work just fine.
So, just to be clear. I cant just walk to the cage with my rewards, ID, and cash and play a tournament? I have to have the app, get verified, then I can go register like the way formerly mentioned?
Thank you for the patience
I don't think the move to the app was to be able to sell data. Not saying they aren't going to monetize/sell the data at some point, but in the grand scheme of things their dataset isn't in the size that would generate massive income. As each year goes by the data they have that is new reduces.
My assumption is they are doing this for efficiency and the ability to reduce staff and material costs (printers, paper, etc..). If they were solely after our data why would they install tablets at every table for table changes and other benefits they get from that.
You were already required to have a players card to sign up for a WSOP event, they already have your data, assuming this is for GG, they could have simply put in the sale (which they probably did), that caesars shares all player data for those that play the WSOP.
I don't think the move to the app was to be able to sell data. Not saying they aren't going to monetize/sell the data at some point, but in the grand scheme of things their dataset isn't in the size that would generate massive income. As each year goes by the data they have that is new reduces.My assumption is they are doing this for efficiency and the ability to reduce staff
Not sure if you were referencing my post, but to be clear I'm not at all against the app. As someone who's planning to play a bunch of events I appreciate the convenience and would have definitely used it.
I'm against the idea that you HAVE to use the app. Like if I was some guy stumbling in off the strip and considering playing a random tournament in the WSOP, the whole app thing might make me just decide not to play.
My (final) 2 cents:
The app is a major improvement once it’s set up and funded with money … then there is zero wait time anymore to register, rebuy, etc
The last step to make it perfect (which I hope will come also) would be to put winnings directly into your players account for future use (so there’s also no need for the wait lines at the cash out desk)
I arrived 9.58am for the mystery, had a coffee, clicked on purchase ticket, and had my ticket and seat assignment seconds later on my phone.
As someone planning to play precisely one WSOP event, I don't mind having to download an app to play. I don't even mind so much having to dedicate 5 minutes to finding my Caesar's Rewards number and fill it in along with some personal information.
What will be frustrating is if I need to stand in a separate line to complete the verification for the app. I get that the verification is probably important to the payment processing side of the app. But if I am not going to use the app for any payment processing, they should just be able to verify my identity at the registration cage where I pay with cash.
What would be more frustrating is if I didn't know I need to be verified in advance, I stand in line to register, and then have to go somewhere else, stand in another line, and then wait in the first line a second time.
Maybe you can now get verified at the registration cage? Maybe they will have appropriate signage that prevents people from making this mistake. I dunno because I'm not in Vegas yet. What I do know is that I'm a pretty engaged player (I mean, I post on 2p2), and it's not clear to me what the process is.
That tells me that this has been a complete communication failure from WSOP. There should be a FAQ/step-by-step guide on the WSOP website that you literally cannot miss, i.e. put it up on several pages including the schedule page, as well as somewhere visible in the app.
Not sure if you were referencing my post, but to be clear I'm not at all against the app. As someone who's planning to play a bunch of events I appreciate the convenience and would have definitely used it.I'm against the idea that you HAVE to use the app. Like if I was some guy stumbling in off the strip and considering playing a random tournament in the WSOP, the whole app thi
Nah, wasn't refencing your post, there were a few posts pointing to data selling as the main driver for creating this app, which I don't think is the case.
I agree with you that forcing people to use the app isn't great.
Grousing about the app is silly. It’s a good innovation and it will not lead to any senior or super senior not playing. EVERYONE has a smartphone now. EVERYONE is plenty used to installing and using apps for everything from phones and tablets to cars and streaming devices. This is not some cutting-edge, newfangled technology. It’s been around for nearly two decades now, and it’s been designed to be so easy to use that small children and octogenarians alike are perfectly comfortable with it.
As someone planning to play precisely one WSOP event, I don't mind having to download an app to play. I don't even mind so much having to dedicate 5 minutes to finding my Caesar's Rewards number and fill it in along with some personal information.What will be frustrating is if I need to stand in a separate line to complete the verification for the app. I get that the verificati
Its like you're in my head. These are my exact thoughts and complaints. Just comes off very clumsy when they have an entire year to plan.
Whatever, I go late at night and hopefully it won't even be an issue anyway.
Grousing about the app is silly. It’s a good innovation and it will not lead to any senior or super senior not playing. EVERYONE has a smartphone now. EVERYONE is plenty used to installing and using apps for everything from phones and tablets to cars and streaming devices. This is not some cutting-edge, newfangled technology. It’s been around for nearly two decades now, and it
Adding an app would be one thing, but borking the website completely and making it totally useless is another. For many years I've followed chipcounts, tournament positions ect on my computer, where I spend the majority of my time, and now that is all gone. Maybe most people will download the app to their spyphones and study the tiny screen for updates, but I can assure you many people (like myself) aren't going to bother. Is this really the time for the WSOP to be giving fans the middle finger when it comes to following the tournament?
Where can you see the stack sizes and results in WSOP events? I can't find it on the WSOP site like in the past.
WSOP+ app, or pokernews
What will be frustrating is if I need to stand in a separate line to complete the verification for the app.
Didn't we always have to verify every year at the beginning of the summer? Every year, we complain "I verified last year!" The first few days, the lines are always long. The only difference is that we have to install an app, which you said you don't mind.
Where can you see the stack sizes and results in WSOP events? I can't find it on the WSOP site like in the past.
Yeah. I liked it on the WSOP website.
Bit poop having to look on the Pokernews site. As I'm not sure of my way around it. And I'm so used to Wsop.com
And no point on downloading an app just to see updates, when not playing any events. Also I want to see them on my PC. Gah... the future is horrible... you'll be telling me next that Mike the Mouth is no longer one of the best players alive.
Bloody stupid future
Grousing about the app is silly. It’s a good innovation and it will not lead to any senior or super senior not playing. EVERYONE has a smartphone now. EVERYONE is plenty used to installing and using apps for everything from phones and tablets to cars and streaming devices. This is not some cutting-edge, newfangled technology. It’s been around for nearly two decades now, and it
This force-feeding of the app to presumably qualified poker players is simply a marketing ploy by GG Poker to build a wider database for both US poker players and nonUS players whose data they might not have as yet.
GGPoker is not licensed in Nevada, is it ?
If GGPoker is NOT licensed for online poker in Nevada, seems odd that a live event at a licensed Nevada casino would require someone to share personal data with an unlicensed online operator/
I'm against the idea that you HAVE to use the app. Like if I was some guy stumbling in off the strip and considering playing a random tournament in the WSOP, the whole app thing might make me just decide not to play.
I agree completely. That was my reason for asking. They talk about walk in traffic but they will get none.
