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Bud, you wanted to defend Lucios honor by attacking me. Don't play the victim now because your laundry got aired out

You realize they still do it yes? they all still do it.

Ha ha!

I wasn't defending anyone's 'honor.' I 'attacked' you because you were saying untrue things about another poster that I find interesting. I (mistakenly) thought that mods were supposed to set the standard by their own posting.

I'm certainly not 'playing the victim.' What in Sam Hill are you talking about?

No 'dirty laundry' got aired out. I stand by what I said back then, and I stand by it now.

If you're fine with me discussing LGBTQI+ issues in this forum, I would be delighted to do so.

I was avoiding the topic because of my prior run-ins with the previous moderators.

Anyway, hope that helps clarify things.

Prove it .

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/wor...

I with to be a failure while being ranked 3rd in the world ….

Why don’t you tell us which University is great from your pov ?

To believe left is worst then actual success is another kind of stupidity, like having a great thriving middle class would be wrong if it had more left tendencies then the right ….
Better to have a $h!thole economy as long it’s the « right » way that’s dominating ?
Then why care so much on gdp if u don’t actual care about living standard and success ?

I mean to show how that idological frame work of your is dumb, even China , far left communist understood that there is some good thing stemming from the right like the concept of capitalism was the best way to created a thriving economy ….

But yes ideologies always disregards empirical evidences which is trait we see in you in many other views , like medical science and climate change science .

You believes US presidents should intervine in private entities management concern ?
Doesnt sound libertarian at all…

Laws are made by congress.
Is the law permitting foreigners to studies in American universities ?

I believe political power should intervene where public money is spent yes. All entities receiving public money should be supervised by politics, do oyu disagree? do you think public money should be given at random to private entities?

There are laws permitting aliens studying to apply for a visa. The visa is still given by the executive government and it has discretion about who to give it to.

No im not okay with you expressing your ******ed homophobia.

Luciom is a fascist. He thinks cops should have the authority to shoot accused criminals on site and has expressed glee that the Italian military let African immigrants drown in the Mediterranean. He has a racial tier list that I can give you the specifics about because hes expressed it multiple times.

If you want to debate the nuance of being a fascist white supremacist vs being a nazi be my guest.

Nothing I say is a lie. Maybe misinformed but never a lie. You are just ignorant to reality

And my standard will always be to punch fascists in the mouth when they are going off about stupid nonsense, just like I don't mind rolling in the muck when I know I'm right

Fair enough. So, at least we now agree that I was not 'playing the victim' which you originally claimed. YOU are keeping me from sharing my views (on that topic), which is your right as a moderator.

If those accusations are an honest representation of his views, then you have a good point.

No thanks. I oppose fascism, white supremacism and Nazism.

You literally said I 'hated gays and trans.' If it's not a lie, it's certainly bad judgement (especially from a moderator) to make such a claim without actual evidence. I have a rather large posting history, so it wouldn't be hard to find an example if one existed.

I will concede that you were just ignorant on that point, and not lying. So, I apologize for accusing you of lying about me on that point.

Sounds good!

- Yeah, not president only….
Has in political power is congress .

- That’s fine for the bolded but laws shouldnt be discriminatory right ?
If u do it for havard then you should do it to all universities with the same parameters …

Ps: if congress decide to give tax cut and some private corporations using that money they saved from tax cuts , are being spend on things trump wouldn’t like, would u agree he intervene in those too ?

That seem where this is going ….

Why do you use fascist to mean "in favor of very violent legal uses of the monopoly of violence"? fascism requires a lot of other things like you know, suppression of opposite political parties, state censorship and so on, which i don't ask for nor agree with.

Can't you really find different words to describe propensities that you might think are in common with fascism, but also very-non fascist countries had? australia did send boats away for decades, and only allowed white immigration for decades, while being a liberal democracy.

Now if for you Australia was a fascist country in say 1965, then the word has really no meaning.

In 2001 australia sent back a ship with 200+ indonesians, which then sank.

I am in favor of blockading ships with no authorization and filled to the brim with economic migrants and sending them back. If they refuse, force can be used to stop them. I am also in favour of only letting in valuable immigrants. With no race tier in my case, i have mentioned many times i would welcome nurses and many other skilled people (not necessarily educated formally, someone who can install air conditioning is good enough), from any country for example (if they can speak the language of the hosting country of course). I think it's absurd to let in anyone who can't speak the language decently though. You cannot be a permanent resident properly if you literally cannot understand the rules and customs of the country, which requires being able to read in that country language.

If that is fascism, you lose the word to define actual fascism, like when the government sends the army to the headquarters of a political party and arrests the leaders.

I think that if something was the legal policy , passed democratically, of any allied countries that defeated nazi-fascism in the 20th century, then it LITERALLY CANNOT BE FASCISM.

They are not. I answered for the boats.

As for criminals, i do support police being allowed to always shoot to kill any criminal *in flagrante*, ie while he is committing a crime in front of the eyes of law enforcement and doesn't stop when ordered.

That includes crimes against property.

That is not fascism, it's very close to rules of engagement for law enforcement in various democracies (not all of them of course).

Thanks for clarifying.

That said, I would almost always oppose lethal force in crimes against property.

R u serious ?

Well we disagree then, but i wouldn't call you a communist even if you disagree with making it legal to be allowed to shoot someone who is trying to steal your car, nor i think you would call me a fascist if i want the law to allow me or anyone else to shoot at someone trying to steal his car.

Meanwhile, in other news, this is the spread (differential in basis point) between the 10y italian treasury bond (BTP) and the 10y german treasury bond (Bund) since the coalition backing Meloni won the elections

Granted, a portion of that is Germany doing worse than they should because of their own mistakes. Still, relatively speaking, this is simply exceptional.

So apparently the flavor of the month is *in flagrante*, lucy used this term a couple of times recently, almost as if he discovered a new word or remembered it was usefull to his rethorics.
Or maybe from some marching orders...

maybe i used it a lot because it's the correct latin expression to use, and because when people are committing crimes right there in front of you *the moral equation changes dramatically* and it comes to mind easily to italians because the word in italian is the same, flagrante.

There is flagrancy in english afaik but it's fairly obsolete and it doesn't necessarily have legal connotations.

The latin expression is in flagrante delicto but in italian we use in flagrante without the delicto (which would be delitto).

You can go here and check

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/searc...

i used it in april, in march, and in 2024 several times.

So who's "taking orders" exactly? from whom? about what?

In other news, this is who the democratic party picked as one of the leaders of the attempt to "bring men back into the democratic party" (no it's not from the onion, it's real)

Meet Olivia Juliana

https://www.npr.org/2022/07/28/111430038...

Stay classy Matt

"It's come to my attention that Matt Gaetz — alleged pedophile — has said that it's always the 'odious ... 5'2 350 pound' women that 'nobody wants to impregnate' who rally for abortion," Julian wrote. "I'm actually 5'11. 6'4 in heels. I wear them so the small men like you are reminded of your place."

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The perfect attitude to get young men to vote the democratic party, no choice could have been better.

Are you justifying Gaetz's comments? You do realise some women are impregnated via rape? Or that plenty of overweight women have partners and spouses?

no, i am not "justifying" Gaetz comments. I just don't care about them?

I care about what the democratic party does. They picked this person to try to get men under 30 back as voters of the democratic party.

Do you think that being morbidly obese especially if young is something men under 30 don't judge negatively ? and having the attitude described above is proper for someone who is supposed to convince men to vote for them?