Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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I care what the pro-Hamas side is saying because they have hijacked what should be the bedrocks of Western liberalism (the media, liberal parties, progressivism, academia) to do propaganda for a genocidal death cult.
I care what the pro-Hamas side is saying because they have hijacked what should be the bedrocks of Western liberalism (the media, liberal parties, progressivism, academia) to do propaganda for a genocidal death cult.
Oh, for sure, Hamas has definitely managed to hijack every media outlet, university, and political party in the West, you're definitely not a raving bloodthirsty lunatic.
He’s just projecting because he’s known for a long time that Israel has used its strategic importance to the west to exert influence over it.
Your story changed too so by your own standards you are a lying propagandist.You went from “Israeli tanks definitely did it” to “Israeli backed gangs definitely did it”how about you had no idea what happened and were just creaming your pants thinking about how you could use palestinian corpses against the jews.note I don’t accept that it was Israeli backed gangs doing it, just
They are separate incidents.
Fair enough. But you do seem to be backing that the IDF did it, and now supporting this random conspiracy that armed gangs armed by the IDF did it. Honestly I’m not even sure what the incident was and if there was one.
And it’s hard to take seriously the media blitz on this when it includes uncritically platforming Hamas media soundbites and quotes about not going to aid sites.
The Hamas-run Gaza government media office accused Israel of using aid as a weapon, "employed to exploit starving civilians and forcibly gather them at exposed killing zones, which are managed and monitored by the Israeli military".
At Nasser Hospital in nearby Khan Younis city where some casualties were brought, Gaza paramedic Abu Tareq said there was "a tragic situation in this place. I advise them that nobody goes to aid delivery points."
And I know you will go “aha! see this is exactly what I’m saying” but it doesn’t seem like the media is trying particularly hard to verify reports coming out of Gaza.
Especially when again they just reprint soundbites from Hamas and actively seem like they are rooting for them.
Israel accuses Hamas of stealing supplies intended for civilians and using them to entrench its hold on Gaza. Hamas denies looting supplies and has executed a number of suspected looters.
This literally seems like it was written by a Hamas operative, which at this point it wouldn’t surprise me if it was.
Looking forward to watching the Hamas slappies fist bump each other after the Boulder attack today.
Fair enough. But you do seem to be backing that the IDF did it, and now supporting this random conspiracy that armed gangs armed by the IDF did it. Honestly I’m not even sure what the incident was and if there was one.
these posts together are pretty funny.
anyway, they are separate events. at this point, I cant make you understand those basic words. I think 3 year olds understand object and temporal permanence but it seems to escape you. maybe reenlist in preschool or something.
these posts together are pretty funny.
anyway, they are separate events. at this point, I cant make you understand those basic words. I think 3 year olds understand object and temporal permanence but it seems to escape you. maybe reenlist in preschool or something.
I already acknowledged that you were referring to separate things, and I was making an additional point about how the supposed IDF shooting has absolutely nothing to back it up other than some vagaries about eyewitnesses and direct quotes from Hamas or Hamas proxies.
The Reuters article I provided clearly sourced all their info from Hamas or pro-Hamas sources, and the IDF denies an incident even took place.
what vagaries from eyewitnesses? they are quite clear and consistent.
Witnesses said the Israeli military opened fire as thousands of Palestinians gathered to receive food aid. Israel's military said that an initial inquiry found soldiers had not fired on civilians while they were near or within the distribution site.
“Witnesses said” is a pretty freaking vague thing to say, don’t you think? Especially since they clearly know how to quote people since they do it throughout the rest of the article. Why quote people who were not eyewitnesses but not people who were eyewitnesses? What soldiers opened fire? How many? Were they in line to get aid? Two miles away from the aid point? Did they see soldiers open fire or did they hear gunshot and look up and see soldiers with their weapons drawn?
I mean and presumably there was more than one witness, did one of them see more than the other?
I mean there is so much detail that could be filled in here that just isn’t being, and that’s pretty suspicious in my view.
I've found another antisemte.
“Witnesses said” is a pretty freaking vague thing to say, don’t you think? Especially since they clearly know how to quote people since they do it throughout the rest of the article. Why quote people who were not eyewitnesses but not people who were eyewitnesses? What soldiers opened fire? How many? Were they in line to get aid? Two miles away from the aid point? Did they see s
Vagary does not mean something "vague".
Sounds like you have a problem with the article and editing. I agree that they should have actually quoted people. Still, I had no trouble finding these accounts.
Looking forward to watching the Hamas slappies fist bump each other after the Boulder attack today.
That's why Universities are being forced by Trump to shut down idiots like this.
Enough is enough.
The mayor of Barcelona is a radical socialist, and yes radical leftism is inherently antisemite and genocidal

