Ukraine-Russia War Take 2

Ukraine-Russia War Take 2

Here is what the preliminary take on the Ukraine thread disappearing is:

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08 February 2024 at 05:19 PM
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by coordi

Pretty sure Trump said two weeks a month ago and said 24 hours 6 months ago

You're damn lucky you're American and not applying for a visa. 😡




Reports are coming in that Ukraine did a drone attack that destroyed a lot of Russian bombers. They are claiming 40. The real number is probably much smaller, but because Putin destroyed their economy Russia doesn’t even make bombers anymore. So whatever the number is, will be a disaster for Russia.


small drones from cargo trucks thousands of kms from ukraine is such a sick delivery vector. And most american assets are vulnerable to the same kinda thing.


did the truck drivers know about the operation? pretty sure using unwilling and unknowing civilians for attacks is considered terrorism. ofc, it wouldnt be the first time and at least these guys seem to have survived unlike the poor schmuck they blew up on the Kerch bridge

but then, I guess a lot of people think that pager attacks on civilians is a sick delivery vector too.


Victor...stanning for dictators and terrorists since 2003...


right, I get that its a crazy position to not condone using civilians in attacks.


by Victor

pretty sure using unwilling and unknowing civilians for attacks is considered terrorism.

it's obviously not terrorism. it's just not close to what the word means

the phrase youre looking for is war crime. but it's not one either


ok seems fine then. dont want to hear you guys crying when Russia does something similar.


by Victor

ok seems fine then. dont want to hear you guys crying when Russia does something similar.

Russia is the aggressor. There's no moral equivalence or equal comparison with Ukraine here. Ukraine were aggressively invaded and are not the bad guys, no matter how much you like sucking Vlad's cock.


by Victor

right, I get that its a crazy position to not condone using civilians in attacks.

But you do condone it, you condoned Hamas doing it. Again typical inconsistency from you. You hate the west in general for some weird reason, therefore they're always at fault, so consistency isn't needed. You simply weaponise everything at your disposal or anything that arises to peddle your West Bad schtick. Your sudden engagement in morality, now that it's regarding Putin is as hilarious as it's shallow. You don't gaf about civilians and everyone pretty much knows it, apart from the handful of your fellow pro Hamas posters.


by Victor

ok seems fine then. dont want to hear you guys crying when Russia does something similar.

russia is fighting a war of aggression. ukraine is trying to survive as an independent country. it is worse when russia does it


by corpus vile

But you do condone it, you condoned Hamas doing it. Again typical inconsistency from you. You hate the west in general for some weird reason, therefore they're always at fault, so consistency isn't needed. You simply weaponise everything at your disposal or anything that arises to peddle your West Bad schtick. Your sudden engagement in morality, now that it's regarding Putin is

no I dont condone Hamas or the whichever resistance group committed war crimes. I have said many times that there should be an investigation and anyone who executed civilians should be prosecuted.

but the operation as a whole was an attack on military bases by an illegally besieged group with the intent to take POWs for exchange with political prisoners. armed resistance is legal under international law and moral under any reasonable code. it is also the only way to oppressed populations under colonial rule have ever gained their freedom.


by Victor

right, I get that its a crazy position to not condone using civilians in attacks.

But it's okay for Vlad to forcibly conscript civilians for their special military operation amirite?


by Victor

no I dont condone Hamas or the whichever resistance group committed war crimes. I have said many times that there should be an investigation and anyone who executed civilians should be prosecuted. but the operation as a whole was an attack on military bases by an illegally besieged group with the intent to take POWs for exchange with political prisoners. armed resistance is

Stop lying you absolutely condone it, hence your justification for them using refugee camps to launch rockets from even though you know Israel will fire back and civilians will most likely die in the process. You don't care about these civilians being killed you simply weaponise them.


by Victor

did the truck drivers know about the operation? pretty sure using unwilling and unknowing civilians for attacks is considered terrorism. ofc, it wouldnt be the first time and at least these guys seem to have survived unlike the poor schmuck they blew up on the Kerch bridge

It's not terrorism because the target of the attack was bombers and other military equipment not civilians.


at least one of the train bridge explosions targeted civilians


by Victor

no I dont condone Hamas...

Since you've admitted that you transfer money to them on a daily basis, this claim is clearly false.


by Victor

did the truck drivers know about the operation? pretty sure using unwilling and unknowing civilians for attacks is considered terrorism.

No, that's not the case. It is not analogous to duping someone to carry a baggage bomb on to an airliner. First, the truck drivers were at no personal risk when they delivered the sheds to the prescribed addresses. Second, the targets were not civilian -- they were Russian strategic bombers at nearby air bases which have been engaged in nightly attacks on Ukrainian civilians, and it was perfectly legitimate for Ukraine to attack those Russian military assets.

But, of course, you are someone of quite extreme Fascist sympathies. You not only idolise Vladimir Putin, but you actually regard Adolf Hitler as your personal Saviour and Redeemer ('Hitler died for the sins of the West,' as you put it), so of course you would consider RAF fighter pilots intercepting Nazi bombers over London in 1940 as 'terrorists'.


by 57 On Red

Since you've admitted that you transfer money to them on a daily basis, this claim is clearly false.

its poor wording out of context. I support Hamas's right to armed resistance against a genocidal army but I dont condone the few members who committed war crimes.


by 57 On Red

No, that's not the case. It is not analogous to duping someone to carry a baggage bomb on to an airliner. First, the truck drivers were at no personal risk when they delivered the sheds to the prescribed addresses. Second, the targets were not civilian -- they were Russian strategic bombers at nearby air bases which have been engaged in nightly attacks on Ukrainian civilians, a

now you are just being silly. I dont support the West.


Vic using poor wording? Colour me shocked...


bad faith actors snipping phrases out of context? color me shocked.


by Victor

its poor wording out of context. I support Hamas's right to armed resistance against a genocidal army but I dont condone the few members who committed war crimes.

So you saying Israel is a genocidal state from decades ago ?
Hamas been created like 40 years ago…..

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