Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/fa...
ohh look more antisemitic countries now.
Looks like it’s mostly lip service. The reality is Israeli companies and industries are in high demand because in the end of the day people spending a lot of money value expertise and professionalism.
https://breakingdefense.com/2025/06/isra...
I was going to share the Washington Post article but it’s behind a paywall and ofc half the thread isn’t going to subscribe to a Western propagandist media source.
You can share articles with archive.ph like I do. It's funny bc you are always whining about links so this is proof you don't even look at them.
another day, another aid massacre
this scene should not remind anyone of anything. I cant think of any other time in history where a population was concentrated in a small area and forced to compete for food with physical acts.
another day, another aid massacrethis scene should not remind anyone of anything. I cant think of any other time in history where a population was concentrated in a small area and forced to compete for food with physical acts.
You don't need to go back that far in history.
another day, another aid massacrethis scene should not remind anyone of anything. I cant think of any other time in history where a population was concentrated in a small area and forced to compete for food with physical acts.
where’s the massacre? I see a crowd of people overrunning the aid distribution center and grabbing aid. seems like even though they are overrunning it they are only grabbing what they need though. you even see some people at the end calmly walking off with their boxes.
No genocide here, folks, just a horde of desperate people running for food before the IDF butchers them. Up to 124 dead in the last 24 hours, but Israel has the right to do this to them.
No genocide here, folks, just a horde of desperate people running for food before the IDF butchers them. Up to 124 dead in the last 24 hours, but Israel has the right to do this to them.
According to the Hamas-run health ministry, yes.
By the way, the claim seemed to suggest that the video shows a massacre. I didn’t see a massacre in that video so I wad wondering what that was about.
Also, saying “x number of people dead” without disambiguating between combatants and civilians doesn’t really do much.
where’s the massacre? I see a crowd of people overrunning the aid distribution center and grabbing aid. seems like even though they are overrunning it they are only grabbing what they need though. you even see some people at the end calmly walking off with their boxes.
thats not a video of a massacre. its just to show how these aid distribution areas work.
Which is the same source the IDF relies on, but hey, when you've got a genocide to deny you just gotta toss out whatever lame excuses you can think of.
it also means that its a massive undercount bc they only register identifiable bodies that reach a hospital and die by Israeli fire. they arent counting the people who get shot and left to rot outside the hunger games aid massacre zones. or the people who starved to death. or died from treatable disease.
So that people are overrunning the aid area is proof that Israel is not giving aid? We literally see people walking away with boxes in this video.
Which is the same source the IDF relies on, but hey, when you've got a genocide to deny you just gotta toss out whatever lame excuses you can think of.
The same source IDF relies on for what? They are denying the allegations that they are making, how could they be relying on them and denying their figures simultaneously.
it also means that its a massive undercount bc they only register identifiable bodies that reach a hospital and die by Israeli fire. they arent counting the people who get shot and left to rot outside the hunger games aid massacre zones. or the people who starved to death. or died from treatable disease.
So we’re supposed to believe that there’s some super secret evidence of genocide that the Hamas-run health ministry is not reporting for… what reason exactly?
For keeping track of the score. Your team is up to like 55,000 as of today, btw.
So that people are overrunning the aid area is proof that Israel is not giving aid? We literally see people walking away with boxes in this video.
who says they arent giving any aid at all? they give just enough so that desperate people show up and get gunned down or trampled. they also make them run for it.
Israeli army officers refuse to serve in ‘unnecessary, eternal war’ in Gaza
In letter to Netanyahu, 41 signatories say government’s orders are ‘clearly illegal’ and hostages have been given ‘death sentence’
Israel’s government is issuing “clearly illegal” orders that must not be obeyed, a group of Israeli military intelligence officers have said, announcing they will no longer participate in combat operations in Gaza.
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The letter’s signatories are not named but are identified as members of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF)’s intelligence directorate, which has played a key role in the 20-month offensive in the Gaza Strip, particularly through the selection of bombing targets.
Addressing the impact of the offensive on civilians in the territory, the group wrote: “When a government acts for ulterior motives, harms civilians and leads to the killing of innocent people, the orders it issues are clearly illegal, and we must not obey them.”
The intelligence officers said Netanyahu’s government had given a “death sentence” to the Israeli hostages held by Hamas militants in Gaza when it “chose to collapse” the ceasefire deal in March.
The group, which is understood to include members of the elite military surveillance division Unit 8200, claimed that “many hostages have already been killed by IDF bombings” and accused the government of continuing to “abandon their lives”.
is the march to gaza thing real, or it's just a big AI generated trolling event ? the images look AI generated tbh
For keeping track of the score. Your team is up to like 55,000 as of today, btw.
Why spread misinfo about something that is so easy to look up? Israel has disputed the figures since the start of the war.
At least 51,266 people have been killed in the 18 months since the Gaza war began, according to the Hamas-run Ministry of Health, with nearly a third of the dead aged under 18.
Israel has repeatedly challenged the accuracy of the Palestinian fatalities list - in terms of overall numbers, and in particular, the demographic breakdown - claiming it is used as Hamas propaganda. The figures are cited with attribution, by UN agencies and widely in the media.
The list does not distinguish between civilians and members of Palestinian armed groups who are killed in the war, and Israel has accused Hamas of inflating the percentages of women and children.
And Israel is not my “team”. I want to see Palestinians have their own state and I think it’s disgusting what a group of religious extremists is forcing their population to go through. Speaking of Hamas of course.
who says they arent giving any aid at all? they give just enough so that desperate people show up and get gunned down or trampled. they also make them run for it.
It wasn’t clear from the video that they make them run for it, it seems like the people are going against what the person in the video is saying. Who knows?
Why spread misinfo about something that is so easy to look up? Israel has disputed the figures since the start of the war.
lolz, your own link validates the accuracy of the count, dumbass.
However, he says he detects no attempt by health officials to mislead and sees the changes as "a big clean-up operation".
He points out that the latest modifications to the list led to a small increase in the percentage of adult males among those killed, countering the idea that the original inclusion of the 3,000-plus names was done in an attempt to exaggerate the proportion of women and children.
Just the dumbest, laziest possible genocide denial from these fanatical morons.
lolz, your own link validates the accuracy of the count, dumbass.
Just the dumbest, laziest possible genocide denial from these fanatical morons.
You’re literally just not tracking the conversation. You said the IDF was relying on it. I posted an article showing they weren’t. If you’re going to call someone lazy at least try to track the flow of the conversation.
is the march to gaza thing real, or it's just a big AI generated trolling event ? the images look AI generated tbh
It is real as far as I can tell. But Egypt isn’t going to let them into Gaza, so not sure how far they are going to get.
I don’t know how the different borders work, or what Egypt’s policies are with these things. I am doubt it, but Maybe Egypt will let them straight through their country to the Israel border so it is Israel’s problem?
You’re literally just not tracking the conversation. You said the IDF was relying on it. I posted an article showing they weren’t. If you’re going to call someone lazy at least try to track the flow of the conversation.
I posted a Le Monde article showing the IDF and basically every human rights org relies on these numbers. The BBC link you posted not only finds these number credible but disputes the bullshit claim that they were inflated. Oh here's another link you're too mad and stupid to read:
I posted a Le Monde article showing the IDF and basically every human rights org relies on these numbers. The BBC link you posted not only finds these number credible but disputes the bullshit claim that they were inflated. Oh here's another link you're too mad and stupid to read:
lol. BBC is tremendously biased. Their finding something credible means jack squat diddly.
Gaza is a totalitarian controlled society with no freedom of press or speech. The Arab “media” that does operate there is nothing but Hamas propaganda. Not a single shred of journalistic integrity. Not own drop.
The rest of the world having to work off Hamas numbers because there is literally no alternative does not legitimize them.
