Bodybuilding Classic Physique Division Offseason log

It's only seemingly in your own head. That's a fairly fringe view. Obama and Biden deported facktons of people. Yes, there are definitely some lefties who want literal open borders, but they are a small minority of people who vote not Trump. Do Dems favor more liberal immigration policies than Reps? Of course. But there is a massive difference between that and "seemingly unlimited illegal immigration" which very few Dems support.

Part of the problem is just misinformation and framing. Pretty much every R politician always says "Dems want open borders" or similar nonsense. Say it enough and some people (actually a lot of people) might believe it. It's a play that works incredibly well.

melk, one of kamala's talking points in 2019 was offering medicaid to illegal immigrants

yes, in practice, dems tend to deport illegals in droves, but when talking to their base they say very, very different things

Agree with the Melk on this one. Democrats that believe in open borders is almost non existent. 1 billion people would move to USA if there were open borders.

Also the process for illegals to eventually vote is over 20+ years!! So nice conspiracy, open borders to get get votes?!! Lol, like politicians are worried about getting reelected in 20 years.

But it's all good, we needed Trumpism because Kamala was super weak on the border. But it's just a matter of time before Texas turns blue. What's scarier? A blue Texas or Trumpism? Both damn scary.

Too bad Michelle traumatized from racist comments or else she would be the hero we deserve. But who can blame her? She gets the nastiest most racist comments of all time.

I could politard the **** out of this, but out of respect to Guy, I won't. All I'll say is that this is obviously not the same as "seemingly endless illegal immigration" which very few dems actually support. While I disagree with your characterization of her position, let's forget that. Instead, you may want to check her stance on that same issue in 2024 when she was the actual DEM POTUS candidate (and I think we can reasonably assume represents fairly mainstream DEM views).

I don't know exactly what you mean by "20% of Western Leftists". Depending on how you define Leftists, there might not be much disagreement at all. I don't think most Biden/Harris voters are "Leftists" the way most people use that word (i.e. something socialist or socialist adjacent). The American Dems would be to the right of just about any left-leaning party and certainly any leftist party in Europe.

I'd say if we use a purist definition of "leftist", your 20% may even be low. It's just that I don't think that the majority of Harris voters were leftists. 'Leftist' ≠ 'Left leaning'. This isn't just something I'm making up. That's how most people use these terms (trust me, I politard a lot).

So if you're saying open borders is a common sentiment among 'leftists', we agree.

If you're saying that open borders is a common sentiment among 'left-leaning' people (i.e. what you actually initially said), that's just wrong (if we use Harris voters as a proxy for 'left-leaning' people). If you actually believe that, maybe you've been out the the US for too long.

or just go on what she literally campaigned upon on her first go round when she spoke candidly upon her positions rather than her "stfu just run on the fact you're not trump nor senile" 2024 stance

again, in 2019 she was anti-fracking - in 2024 she pretended like that never happened

in 2019, she claimed sole responsibility for the reason why california inmates were getting gender reassignment surgery, in 2024 she claimed to have no opinion and would follow the law - whatever that was

just super bad faithed to go by the 2024 version of her for anything, but you probably think she wasn't a terrible candidate

god this is a gay as **** discussion lol. Thremp seems to get it though. We talking about human nature and blank slatism vs genetics, partially a political issue, and some idiot has to turn it back to dems and repubs which is wildly away from the point. Neither party has a realistic view of demographics or human nature and informs their immigration view on this.

LOL. Of course judging a candidate by her positions in her most recent campaign is just crazy talk! What's that? She said something earlier that contradicts her current position? Congratulations, you've just described nearly every politician in the history of the universe. Well done!

You can add this to the list of things you're wrong about. I've posted about that a lot here. Feel free to use the search function.

I'm not sure why you are so invested in marrying those two issues. They're almost completely separate, imo. At least as far as practical implementation of immigration policy is concerned.

Lolllllll

My upper workout yesterday I did 40kgx14 doing flat db first around the same bodyweight as I was when I did this. I was on 20mg anavar back when I did this but test+mast+tren only this year and same exact milligrams.

It's so hard to gauge progress visually with different lighting and photo locations and improvements in posing, but the lifts youd o while in a super depleted state are a good indicator. And back when I did this I was around 7 weeks out afaik with clen already up at either 80 or 120 having been on it for 8 weeks. Now been on 20mcg for 1 week and 40mcg for 2 weeks.

So yeah some good progress we can quantify even if we can't get direct visual comparisons because of moving.

Anyway finally going down to 3x/wk from just feeling too much "ambient fatigue" throughout the day. 9/12 weeks as of yesterday.

Yesterday's upper workout

Flat db: 40kgx14, 9, 7 left a lot in the tank last two sets but frist one was 0-1 in the tank only
NG chins: bwx10x4 slow
cable flies: 3 sets
Machine chest supported rows: 68x15, 12, 10
prone delt raises: 3 sets
facing away dual cable curls: 2 sets
Pushdowns: 36.25kgx19, 11

Tried to pose but just felt too exhausted so left after just 12 minutes and was in bed before 10pm on saturday night.

I'm happy I have so much time left but I shouldn't be feeling so tired as this point. I reckon I once again hitting the caffeine too hard and sleep quality going to ****/permanently under-recovering. Dropping to 3x/wk and doing just a 80mg caffeine morning coffee (along with my 40mcg clen 25 mcg t3 and 2.5mg alpha-yohimbine).

Self-belief is a double edged sword. It can be motivating and make you work toward a goal harder and become a self fulfilling prophecy. It can also set up unrealistic expectations and exacerbate the disappointment and feeling of being crestfallen if you fail. I wish people dind't say "the most important thing is to believe in yourself" or "just be confident bro". One of the most difficult things a human being can do is to objectively assess themselves in relation to others due to our millions of years of evolved cognitive self-serving biases. "Don't compare yourself to other people" is an equally vapidly idealistic statement only made by complete morons; every evolutionary impulse we have needs us to compare ourselves to others.

Well, all that said I'm throwing caution to the wind and choosing to believe this time. If I fail it's kinda who gives a **** because I'm 36 years old, unmarried, childless, no divorce, earn an upper middle class income, and understand what bitcoin is so my future is going to be good regardless. We just tryna win harder at this point.

Legs getting way more defined

Absolute unit bro.

Guy,

The illegal immigration stuff is def gay as ****. Anyone with a pulse can tell that the US is on the super liberal end for first world countries. Japan is so far right they're making Mussolini look like Stalin. Of course to understand what the bulk of the first thinks you'd need to actually understand their stance on immigration. Luckily the EU just wrote their harmonization policy last year which includes 3 day detention and removal for some applicants. Or being aware that dudes walking around asking non-white people for their papers has been standard on the Swedish border for over a decade.

But again this stems from the fact that you can actually live in the US as an illegal whereas across most of Europe this is virtually impossible. You either live with a sponsor (gotta give some head to get ahead?) or are a real criminal existing on the barter system. Obv none of these places are as far along as China, and the question of whether this is good or bad is entirely exogenous, but you can pretty easily see why illegal immigration becomes a massive issue.

Oh. And the EU is obviously super racist. Brown muslims? **** off. White Euros? Yes pls. Solidarity with your racial brothers in policy.

wrt winning harder. That is generally a good policy.

I need to keep logging. Occasionally I get up in my head with both long and short term progress fixated on the scale and panicking about not making sufficient progress or not being ready on show day. But here we have mid april, late may, and june 14. Pics 1 and 3 are exactly 8 weeks apart, same lighting, approx same time of the day, same pose. But the bodyweight difference? only 2.5kg. My scale weight goes down MUCH less than predicted for a given level of visual change. If I have a client who is losing this little scale weight over 8 weeks, I'm panicking and basically all of my clients except Max (nearly natty 500mg test/wk max) would need to lose much more than 2.5kg to get this level of subjetive improvement. Only explanation is that I'm building tissue as I come down. Probably has something to do with insulin sensitivity/digestion/nutrient partitioning getting better as you get leaner, but obviously that doesn't last forever and as I get the last few bits off we're not gaining any tissue and definitely going to lose a bit.

That log I had at similar bodyweight from last year with the flat db presses helped me realize that "no my physique has clearly not stayed the same even if bodyweight isn't really heavier"

I remember that time 14 months ago with that not actually platonic female friend of mine. She liked me a lot or would not have wanted to be in a gym and walking home alone with me or have literally called me handsome to my face when we first spoke in the other main commercial gym both of us were members of or had gone on a date with me 2 weeks before this. Very very facially attractive but flat chested, but what made me basically insta-quit is her recitation of classic avoidant attachment talking points almost explicitly and how traumatizing her last relationship had been and how she never wants to date again or get married. She didn't give the "let's just casually bang but no comittment" vibe either, so I mistakenly interpreted all of this as being friendzoned but looking back it was obviously copium as she more or less confessed after I moved away. I am not going to chase or try to convince somebody to be my girlfriend ever, basically. The possibility of rejection hurts too much so unless they make it turbo obvious they generally don't get much out of me. And she entered a relationship about 6 months after I left... and subsequently quit lifting so maybe I was better off not pursuing that. And by that point I'd already resigned from my Chengdu job and she'd lived there right next to that job with her father and brother with no intention of ever going anywhere else. She had a fascinating life story of being raised by a single dad with a younger brother and grew up in Myanmar in a little overseas Chinese community until she was a teenager and they repatriated to the mainland. I may have mentioned a long series of partners and women I got closed with that had fathers that had died when they were very young, but this one flipped the script and had a dead mom! Maybe that's why we didn't end up getting together...

Pics maybe I have them on my old phone in addition to a video she filmed of me posing with The Weeknd in the background. Oh that's another cue, alone in a gym with a shirtless ripped man yeah generally girls only do that if they want to bang/date you. I actually really enjoy his music I'm not going to lie. The pop music that Gen Z/A have is just infinitely superior to the ****ing garbage pop music my millenial generation had.

Well that was a weird stream-of-consciousness derailment...

oh yeah I'm glad I changed my front double bicep to just head on instead of doing the staggered stance and hip tilt. I look better head-on as my waist is already fairly small and doesn't need the extra rotation to look smaller which comes at the expenses of asymmetric looking quads.

I have this thing where I'm tired basically all day except maybe first ~2 hours of the day, then around when the sun goes down I feel energetic again. My bedtime is before 10pm and my waketime is around 6am and I'm consistent within 15 minutes every single day including weekends. I'm never late on bedtime but sometimes too early on wake time.

How tf do I fix this? I already take every OTC sleep supplement known to man.

Maybe because I train at night so my body is like "ok we're on low cals, save all this guys energy for 6pm when he's suddenly exerting himself".

Lotta words. Hope you doing well.

I gotta be honest. I never got why people thought Michelle Obama would ever run for President, or really any political office. Seems like wish casting. She was fine as a First Lady, but I never got the impression she was interested in a political career herself. And nothing in the last 10 years since Barrack left office has altered this impression.

I am not saying you are wrong, because it isn't something I am particularly knowledgeable about. But given current trajectories Google estimates Sweden may be Muslim majority by 2125, France somewhere around 2085, and Germany 25% Muslim by 2075. And I suspect official estimates tend to understate these type of things for political reasons.

These numbers dont really support your statement.

I find these kind of arguments from "leftists" extremely bad faith. Because although it is probably true that "left leaning people" dont say they support open borders or illegal immigration in polls. They do support politicians, policies and norms which effectively result in millions of people coming into the US illegally, or staying well past the date they are required to leave; and living and working in the US for decades in a quasi legal state.

FWIW, I dont support the Trump administration's "solution' to this situation, or really any situation.

But unfortunately the tremendous gaslighting bad faith approach by the "liberal" establishment, as portrayed by Melkerson in this thread, has ceded to Trump the political initiative. If generally well meaning actors insist on gaslighting and dishonesty, it unfortunately creates a situation where bad actors can be seen as the preferable option just by honestly addressing the situation; even if their proposed solutions are horrific.

Sideways chub showing massive gains. All the time Thremp has spent ITT finally paying off big.

What's your goal at this point?

I would stop blasting heavy you are aging like crazy

Goals
Pro card soon, pro debut by 40. PRo level physique is there, the most recent china DMS pro show had at least one guy I could have beaten and I wouldn't look out of place on the stage.

Aging like crazy? You are not only wrong, but the opposite of right. I am incredibly proud of the physical and non-physical changes I've made since the covid era.

2019

2021

2022

2023... a dark year. Bad relationship that made me hate myself ended, dad died (went missing and is still missing), hanging out with a lot of powerlifters, pushing up my deadlift hard. This is the year I had the highest "Rippetoe-fitness", however. But I looked and felt my worst, you can see it in my eyes... I don't even like looking at, much less posting, this pic. But it's where I started to finally get things right in terms of lifestyle, diet, and training overhaul.

2024

And 2025

So KC, let's see how you're looking? how old are you? 2-3 years my senior AFAIK. I think you could benefit from my coaching as you've been doing the same thing with your fitness, and presumably your body, for over a decade. It's obviously not working, but you're a busy man who doesn't have the time to research what's been happening in fitness. I had a long period of stagnation, but I was willing to challenge previously held sacred beliefs and assumption about training, eating, and lifestyle and because I was willing to admit I'd been wrong and change the ways I did things, I got to reap huge rewards. I made a post in your log. I coach a handful of naturals as well, but mostly natural girls few natural guys. You're a dad now! I've posted before in my log, my proudest coaching moment was when my client and friend Parley, father of 2, said to me "My wife complimented my appearance for the first time in our 10 years together today...". It hit me like a bag of bricks. I'd love to do a similar dad to chad transformation with you!

More from the dark year of fatness and depression.... 2023... but I remember it very clearly as November 2023 being the turning point. That's where I said 'okay enough is enough, we're making our own food, actually doing cardio seriously, tracking steps, adhering to a fixed sleeping schedule, and staying the **** away from toxic abusive women who, despite being Muslim, live in complete chaos and use ilicit rec drugs that affect her behaviour, sleep (****ing awake 36 hours randomly...), and mood in very negative ways that I don't want to be around, even if she's hot.

If KC had posted this in 2023, he'd be 100% correct regarding aging rapidly. Was it PEDs? I actually do take significantly less than back then, but no it was basically all high psychological and emotional stress from the bad relationship+covid years hangover. and ****ing fatness. BEing fat is aging you way more than being on AAS.