Israel/Palestine thread

Another thing is that afaik, Israel has only tried to hit one nuclear facility and caused light damage. As is their typical strategy, they have shifted to bombing apartments and hospitals and ambulances.

It's got nothing to do with nukes and is just a regime change war with the goal of installing a comprador regime to make asset extraction ie theft of resources much easier and more profitable for the Western vultures.

Wait, did you see what happened with the Houthis? The US had to station their aircraft carriers 700 miles away and lost 3 F-18s because the the goat herders were syncing Iranian anti-ship missiles for when the planes were landing.

Imagine what would happen if the US navy tried to stop China, a country with 100x the firepower, manpower, and tech, from doing something in the South China Sea.

What, exactly, is your reasoning here? Trump would rise like a lion and nuke them?

Lucium is temp banned FWIW. So I doubt he will be responding anytime soon.

I dont think anyone is going to make a strong argument China cant take Tawain by force, or at least run the US Navy out of the region if they were really committed to it.

But there is really no reason to assume they would want to. China just inked out a new deal to keep selling cheap **** in the US and have hundreds of thousands of Chinese students study here. Seems China isn't ready to disentangle itself from the US, and will continue to play the waiting game wrt Tawain.

Seems like an American F18 was downed by friendly fire. Not sure if the Houthis have actually downed any aircraft besides drones.

I’ve been fairly out of the loop the past few weeks so maybe the Houthis are spanking the Americans. If that’s the case then Iran has nothing to worry about.

the USA confirmed 3 fighter jets were lost. how they were lost is unknown but it seems most likely that even if they werent actually literally shot down that they were lost due to Ansar Allah actions.

the Americans begged for a ceasefire and got the **** out of dodge and didnt even require Yemen to stop bombing Israel.

I’m also not really sure what the point of bringing up China is in relation to conflicts with the Houthis. There’s almost no direct comparison as China is a relatively rational actor when compared to Islamists like the Housthis. As callous as China is, they actually have some level of care for civilians and aren’t going to hide behind human shields. A war with China would look nothing like a war with the Houthis.

Also seems like some poster’s worldview of “America and West bad” is severely clouding their perspective. There’s no chance China risks open war with America over Iran. You have to be down some ridiculous rabbit hole of misinformation to even believe this is a remote possibility.

Well. China is dependent on Iranian oil. So China would probably get very involved in some scenario where they were cut off from Iranian oil.

But there is no reason the US or Israel would be involved in blocking Iran from selling oil to China. Whoever is running the country when the smoke clears (probably still the IRGC) is going to be selling oil to China.

It's unlikey that WWIII comes directly from anyone trying to defend Iran.

The idea that means that the world isn't at some significant risk of a world war is unfortuantely way overstated. So much has happened just because netanyahu needed it - I know some want to think this it's something new with Iran bit it was always on the cards unless netnayhau went. The rest of the world isn't exactly stable. Plenty of other nutters about including at the big ones- Russia and usa. Who knows what trump will do as the end of his 2nd presidency comes into sight or there's some major incident. 9/11 led to the invasion of Iraq ffs - there's not much rational about it.

I seriously doubt china will start anything. It has a policy of building up it's power that is still some years from fruition. That doesn't mean the usa wont act before China becomes a real threat - and as with WMDs it does'nt even have to be true. Acting first because of fear of acting second is basic and deadly game theory when the nutters are in charge. Combine this with all the revolutionary tech that is being developed. That alone causes instability but adding it at this unstable time could be kersone on the fire.

None of whcih means we will have a world war. No-one knows how everything is going to play out. Maybe we're on the verge of a golden age of peace and prosperity. Events dear boy ...

Any current oil shortfall can be made up by Russia

Did you actually read the post you quoted?

A hard night for us.

But knowing vic and Jal are loosing their **** seeing Israel winning, makes it just a little bit easier

Correct. The goal of China is to grind the US down via the bond market, not the battlefield. Trump and Bessent are trying to slow the process down with a new deal to lower the current account deficit, but in the meantime China is very happy to have Russia and Iran absorbing ammo.

Also, I highly doubt regime change is happening while Israel is in hunger games mode in Gaza. You do realize that Iranians are consuming news stories about this daily. I get that they are a country with dissent, but after Libya, people in the Muslim world are a lot more wary about Western-led topplings.

I have no idea what the average person in Tehran is thinking when you've got Ali ath the helm, willing to fire off rockets for w/e reason into Israel in the hopes to get one through to wreck some Sedan when Bibi states that he will obliterate your city (after reking Gaza) if you continue to attack. They are living cretins from the stone age holding the fate of millions in their hands.

I'd prefer to just see these two idiots settle their fate over a game of chess.

If I was advising the Chinese government I would tell them to cease and desist buying American debt and to dump 100% of the American debt they now obtain. Now what?

Netanyahu (notice I did not say Israel because those are two separate entities) will lose. He will get what he deserves.

Hey BLUE, how’s it going?

Remember 2002 when Netanyahu testified to US Congress that Iraq was developing nuclear weapons and said removing Saddam would trigger an Iranian revolution that would topple the Islamic regime?

Now he's wheeling out the same playbook again.

Who exactly is the opposition to Israel's actions as the Cheney's now support the Democrats?

Do you understand why you can't be taken seriously?
That the only options for you are either you're anti-Semitic, or you're a complete Pavlovian, or both.
It's okay to criticize Israel's policy in Gaza, in Judea and Samaria, more than okay to criticize the Netanyahu government. I know I'm in that camp.

But in this case, of Iran, we're all united. There's no question about it. It's just sad to see people like you...

I was referring to corpus and mongo

I'm sad to see my country (Brazil) distancing itself from the US and democracies, that although flawed, are not literally Iran, China, Venezuela, and the like. Left wing protestors here ask that we interrupt any relations with Israrel, as a pro Palestine measure, while the president defends Iran, a country that literally hangs homossexuals.

wait til he finds out what Israel does to homosexuals