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Of course you haven't heard this. You would only encounter these types of discussions if you were desperately clinging to your belief that there is a genetic justification for your racism.
See d2, it's racist even to suggest the human brain has been subject to evolution in the last 100k years.
If ignorance is bliss, we should take a closer look at that conservatives = happier metric.
Good job, Gorgo, you understood the reference.
Without doing any research on this, I personally wouldn't have much an idea what to think or who is more likely to be right. I don't need to do much research to know that the story of Genesis probably isn't an actual and factual account of historical events.
Why does it stays even in the same educational bracket or income bracket then?Conservatives with PhDs are far happier than liberals with PhDs.And for both sides having more education = being happier. So the opposite of "ignorance is bliss".Unfortunately for you, conservatives are just better , mentally healthier, saner ahd happier people, measurably. In some very real sense, th
Yes you and gorgo cannot understand a simple table with very clear numbers, we know.
Otherwise you wouldn't claim this when answering data that shows how more educated people are happier, both liberals and conservatives.
You got 1 graph (who the hell knows where u got this and when …😉 in a 1 specific time frame and u go extrapolate a general consensus like that lol….
Hey look at bitcoin in décembre 24 2022, it sucks its a Scam .
Don’t buy oil april 9th 2025, it sucks ….world is falling !
Ps: yeah conservative seem very happy during Biden years lol….
I don't understand why you fail to address the fact that the state is *subsidizing those institutions*.Ofc the state should stay the hell away from speech , if that person were just saying what it is saying without being subsidized by taxpayers to do so.All we are asking is for the state to stop subsidizing bad people. Bad, horrible people have a right to exist and express them
Of course it isn't suicidal. The state staying the hell out of trying to govern universities has been the basis for what a university is in the "west" since the early 1800s, and it has given us a leg up on research and education ever since.
It is called the "Humboldtian model" in case you want to learn something.
Of course it isn't suicidal. The state staying the hell out of trying to govern universities has been the basis for what a university is in the "west" since the early 1800s, and it has given us a leg up on research and education ever since.
It is called the "Humboldtian model" in case you want to learn something.
Hm no the Humboldtian model is the idea of mixing teaching and research (which is particularly dumb) in the same institution.
That's orthogonal to decisions like financing those institutions with public money, or letting them be completly independent or supervised by other entities.
Re public financing, there was basically none (direct or indirect) until WW2 in the USA for colleges, with a specific exception of free land being donated in the mid 19th century for the building of colleges.
with WW2 the Gi grants started and then a decade later the flood of money covering student loans and so on.
That's it for the federal government.
I fully agree the state should stay the hell out of it. Including wrt financing. The state should not be involved at any level with anything that has to do with higher education.
Hm no the Humboldtian model is the idea of mixing teaching and research (which is particularly dumb) in the same institution.
And how bad since WW2 the US did economically and in research huh….
Yup what a bad idea .
You never heard liberals denying that in the last 100k years the human brain has kept evolving, which means that different ethnicities must have genetically different brains and so behavioural attitudes (all behavioural attitudes have provenly a genetic component) and intelligence (which provenly has a genetic component), *necessarily*, if evolution is true?
Heh, you ever read about that Icarus guy who flew too close to the sun? Right now...you're Icarus.
So you read one line of a random article after googling and came back here and just fabricated the rest. It is almost impressive.
If nothing else, it tells us that your takes on higher education can be safely ignored.
Lucio can think about his race science nonsense for a few days and see if he wants to rejoin the civilized world
You never heard liberals denying that in the last 100k years the human brain has kept evolving, which means that different ethnicities must have genetically different brains and so behavioural attitudes (all behavioural attitudes have provenly a genetic component) and intelligence (which provenly has a genetic component), *necessarily*, if evolution is true?
Are you aware, that with some very conservative assumptions in the calculations, everyone alive today is related to everyone that was alive 2,000 years ago? Change the assumptions just a little bit and it's 900 years? What the hell does 100k years ago have to do with anything?
Is it bigotry to claim Border Collies are on average better behaved and more intelligent than Bulldogs?
How is it nonsense to claim that the same mechanisms that create geographic similarities in height, facial structure, risk of certain diseases, etc, wouldn't also govern personality, behavior, or types of intellect? These are all ultimately physical traits as well, but not so easily identified as what color you are on the outside.
We don't test these things in humans for practical and ethical reasons, but if you want to figure out if ethnic background affects one's inherent aptitude for various tasks, just look at literally any major sports league.
"We don't talk about this" is different than, "gtfo with your nonsense."
It’s hard to make inferences about human evolution based purely off of mechanistic speculation. If you’re going to claim brains are different based off of a hypothesis of how brain states would relate to evolution, you should come with the empirical data to support that.
Is it bigotry to claim Border Collies are on average better behaved and more intelligent than Bulldogs? How is it nonsense to claim that the same mechanisms that create geographic similarities in height, facial structure, risk of certain diseases, etc, wouldn't also govern personality, behavior, or types of intellect? These are all ultimately physical traits as well, but not
There are people that debate these issues in genetics. I don’t know why we would care about some layman speculation about how ethnicities have evolved over time when the human genome has been mapped and there are people doing the work to see how it’s connected.
How is it nonsense to claim that the same mechanisms that create geographic similarities in height, facial structure, risk of certain diseases, etc, wouldn't also govern personality, behavior, or types of intellect?
My brother in Christ, you're a creationist who doesn't believe in any of these mechanisms; you don't get to make weird arguments about the genetic inheritance of traits when you also think cavemen rode dinosaurs to work like in The Flintstones.
Your poor understanding of my own personal beliefs doesn't matter here.
It isn't lost on the group that you didn't disagree with what I wrote, though.
I disagree with a lot of the bullshit you write, but your "evolution is BS except when I apply it to minorities" takes are so absurd they kinda take the spotlight.
Feel free to flesh out your views on evolution, though. Be as specific as you can wrt human subgroups and the various tasks and behaviors you associate tham with.
Is it bigotry to claim Border Collies are on average better behaved and more intelligent than Bulldogs? How is it nonsense to claim that the same mechanisms that create geographic similarities in height, facial structure, risk of certain diseases, etc, wouldn't also govern personality, behavior, or types of intellect? These are all ultimately physical traits as well, but not
Luciom wants to claim that his racial hierarchy is based on genetic science
which means that different ethnicities must have genetically different brains and so behavioural attitudes
but
Today, the scientific consensus is that genetics does not explain differences in IQ test performance between groups, and that observed differences are environmental in origin.
Discussion over
Is it bigotry to claim Border Collies are on average better behaved and more intelligent than Bulldogs? How is it nonsense to claim that the same mechanisms that create geographic similarities in height, facial structure, risk of certain diseases, etc, wouldn't also govern personality, behavior, or types of intellect? These are all ultimately physical traits as well, but not
They though that about woman too before they got « rights » ….
You'll have a hard time finding a post where I say, "Evolution is BS".
Don't bother looking. I don't want you wasting your time on a Friday afternoon.
You will likely find posts taking jabs at replacing the idea of a God/creator with "X billion years of cumulative freak accidents leads from nothingness to apes throwing feces at each other on the Internet", but the basic concept of natural selection and passing traits on to the next generation by way of genetics isn't in doubt.
At the end of the day, I'm just a boring ol' "The painting has a painter, but I'm fascinated with how he did it" kinda guy.
Can you address my point about how your uninformed mechanistic speculation shouldn’t raise anyone’s credence in race realism because it doesn’t include any empirical data?
I’m actually open to the idea of genetic variation in intelligence I just think that the evidence we have doesn’t support that the CAUSE of racial iq difference is from the genetic variation. The data is perfectly consistent with there being genetic variation and also with the cause of the IQ differences not being genetic.
Can you address my point about how your uninformed mechanistic speculation shouldn’t raise anyone’s credence in race realism because it doesn’t include any empirical data?I’m actually open to the idea of genetic variation in intelligence I just think that the evidence we have doesn’t support that the CAUSE of racial iq difference is from the genetic variation. The data is perfe
Luciom started this and I won't speak for him, but if there were any "ELI5 how we test for intelligence in the lab" articles or videos you want to share, I'd consume them. If I gave the wrong impression that I have empirical data on this topic, I apologize.
If I had to give a short-notice, make-it-up-as-you-go report about the topic of racial tendencies, my talk would focus on environmental and cultural factors over inherited traits, since the former are more powerful in my experience.
While you can build a bridge with paper, it'll be a lot easier to do with steel.
