Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
nah not really. I mean plenty of people deeply hate radical leftism without considering it a religion, would that make a difference?
well I tend to see justification as being context dependent. You can’t borrow from someone else’s worldview when what is being criticized is at the heart of yours.
So if leftism is bad in your view because it’s a religion, you don’t get to point at others saying something different about leftism and say “well they also think it’s bad for a different reason”. That’s just not responsive to the dialectic. The reason your conclusion is being attacked is because of the justification.
The truth doesn’t care about these rules you Rationalists live by. They mean nothing in the grand scheme.
unimaginable cope lmao
well I tend to see justification as being context dependent. You can’t borrow from someone else’s worldview when what is being criticized is at the heart of yours.So if leftism is bad in your view because it’s a religion, you don’t get to point at others saying something different about leftism and say “well they also think it’s bad for a dif
Leftism is bad for me because it goes counter human biology, and it denies very important biological truths.
Imho they manage to do so because they are a religion (it's very easy for religions historically to deny objective measurable reality), but if you disagree about this yet accept that leftism does deny basic human biology then we are good anyway
Maybe you are older. I got told by my parents back in the day, it wasn't obvious to me in the early 90s.
I think spaz as an abbreviation of spastic is like from the 60s. Then it "detached" for decades in popular culture. Came to mean "just" that you moved weird
This word is in the same ballpark as re****. Do you, a person on the "left", really want to use spastics as a way of insulting people?
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moron_(p...)
Moron is a term once used in psychology and psychiatry to denote mild intellectual disability.[1] The term was closely tied with the American eugenics movement.[2] Once the term became popularized, it fell out of use by the psychological community, as it was used more commonly as an insult than as a psychological term. It is similar to imbecile and idiot.[3]
By the way almost any term for someone being an idiot or a weirdo comes from psychology and usually some ****ed up old white guy who had weird views on genetics. Guess you should stop saying moron now too!
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moron_(p...)Moron is a term once used in psychology and psychiatry to denote mild intellectual disability.[1] The term was closely tied with the American eugenics movement.[2] Once the term became popularized, it fell out of use by the psychological community, as it w
(or just stop criticizing someone for his immutable characteristics)
well you believe that all characteristics are immutable so how would that work?
No i don't? i believe every radical leftist is so by choice even if political attitude is inheritable.
I believe wrong (for me, opposite to me) value preferences are often inheritable, but even given a penchant for "equality" for ex (that i don't share at all) you can avoid partnering with absolute evil (like you do avoid).
For people who have values i completly oppose, i do not "criticize" them. I just want to fully neutralize them and make it impossible for them to suceed in achieving their political goals. I don't care about them feeling "bad", i want for them to be incapable of ever achieving anything politically.
You don't criticize mosquitos , but you are ok with exterminating them nearby you right? that's how i feel with people with immutable characteristics that are damaging to me. Ofc i don't want actual extermination unless it's legal and constitutional, but the idea is very similar. I want them politically neutralized and useless, pariahs in our society, their entire political goals made unconstitutional.
Heh, in more important matters, I had to go to a mall today, and a dog, whose owner was walking the dog without a leash, rolled up on me. I don't even know if dogs are allowed or not, but I'd be surprised if they're allowed without a leash. I bent down and let the dog sniff me and then pet it. Can Lunchbox guess why? No, it wasn't because it didn't have jacked teeth like Crossnerd's dog.
Heh, in more important matters, I had to go to a mall today, and a dog, whose owner was walking the dog without a leash, rolled up on me. I don't even know if dogs are allowed or not, but I'd be surprised if they're allowed without a leash. I bent down and let the dog sniff me and then pet it. Can Lunchbox guess why? No, it wasn't because it didn't have jacked teeth like Crossn
It is because you were indoors and because you believe that only nature was made for you but not artificial man made places?
No i don't? i believe every radical leftist is so by choice even if political attitude is inheritable.I believe wrong (for me, opposite to me) value preferences are often inheritable, but even given a penchant for "equality" for ex (that i don't share at all) you can avoid partnering with absolute evil (like you do avoid).For people who have values i completly oppose, i do not
Well I thought you said that if anyone’s characteristics change then they are no longer themselves, so thought experiments are worthless. This implies that no they can’t choose to be something else, because if they were then they wouldn’t be them, they would be someone else. So in a very real sense since every property is essential, them changing would just be another essential property, and if they did change it would just be because it was an essential property of themselves.
There’s really no room for “changeable” characteristics because if they could change then that is an essential property that they can’t change.
In case anyone was curious the mvp of politics only got 58 posts in yesterday before it’s/that’s only weakness was hungry and sleepy
Well, yeah. You have runners and everyone else. Everyone else, especially irresponsible pet owners, are beneath us.
Kidding, of course... only the irresponsible pet owners.
Is that your adorable, yet fully untrained, dog terrorizing another loose dog or do you have two dogs that own the outdoors?
By the way, how infrequently do you bathe that dog (if at all)?
The dude who sees a pic of a 30yo female and basically wants to start an OF page is calling someone else creepy. 😃
Is that your adorable, yet fully untrained, dog terrorizing another loose dog or do you have two dogs that own the outdoors?
By the way, how infrequently do you bathe that dog (if at all)?
I have deshedding shampoo and conditioner for her but you're supposed to use it only every 4-6 weeks because too frequent isn't good for their skin, apparently.
Huskies are double-coated and them and other dogs like them don't really develop the sort of stinky dog smell that other dogs develop. I do brush her all the time and use some lavender spray but she really doesn't need regular baths plus she's in the ocean all the time now.
The other dog was a malamute we met today in an officially sanctioned off-leash dog area.
My dog definitely isn't fully untrained but yes I'm still powerless to stop her from chasing a deer.
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I dunno, I never connected spaz with spasctic.I also never considered spastic as a slur and hadn't ever heard the word spastic specifically to describe people with cerebral palsy, despite going to school for many years with a kid who had cerebral palsy.If spastic is a slur again neurological disorders then "spastic colon" is quite possibly the most offensive term in the english
No offence but you must have led a bit of a sheltered life as you didn't seem to know the meaning of mongoloid either. Spastic- in Ireland was shortened to "spa"- was not a good word even when I was a kid and was a slur on the physically disabled. Were you home schooled or something?
No offence but you must have led a bit of a sheltered life as you didn't seem to know the meaning of mongoloid either. Spastic- in Ireland was shortened to "spa"- was not a good word even when I was a kid and was a slur on the physically disabled. Were you home schooled or something?
Honestly I had to look this up because literally no one in the US treats it like the word ******. And indeed, in the US the connotation is just not there, even though in Britain it is.
This usage may have been deemed acceptable by the Hammond Times editors because it doesn't allude directly to someone with spastic paralysis but instead figuratively extends the term to the uncontrolled ups and downs of Wall Street. And when the noun spaz finally began to be used in mainstream print publications in the mid-'60s, it was used in a sense well removed from spastic. Here is the earliest cite in the OED, from film critic Pauline Kael in 1965, along with another cite I found from that year in a New York Times column by Russell Baker:
1965 P. KAEL I lost it at Movies III. 259The term that American teen-agers now use as the opposite of 'tough' is 'spaz'. A spaz is a person who is courteous to teachers, plans for a career..and believes in official values. A spaz is something like what adults still call a square.
"Observer: America's New Class System," New York Times, Apr. 11, 1965, p. E14
Your teen-age daughter asks what you think of her "shades," which you are canny enough to know are her sunglasses, and you say, "Cool," and she says, "Oh, Dad, what a spaz!" (Translation: "You're strictly from 23-skidoo.")
So by the time Kael and Baker noticed teenagers using spaz, the sense had already shifted to 'uncool person,' without reference to lack of motor coordination. But that doesn't mean the 'clumsy' sense, with echoes of spastic, was no longer in use at the time. The earliest public attestation that I know of for the uncoordinated sense of spaz is the undeniably tasteless garage-rock single "Spazz" by The Elastik Band (Atco #6537, Nov. 1967), included in the box set Nuggets: Original Artyfacts from the First Psychedelic Era 1965-1968. (This is also the earliest example I know of for the double-z spelling of the noun spazz.) The crude but catchy refrain goes:
I said, get offa the floor, get offa the floor, boy,
People gonna think, yes they're gonna think, people gonna think you're a spazz.
It's still baffling how this single ever got released by a major record label, and unsurprisingly it ended up receiving very little airplay. (Besides the dubious use of spazz, DJs were no doubt also wary of the explicit drug reference in the lyrics: "But when you turn around some joker slipped you LSD.")
In any case, the clumsy or inept meaning of spaz remained mostly on the playground until the late 1970s, when it began seeping into American popular culture. In 1978, Saturday Night Live started running occasional sketches starring "The Nerds," with Bill Murray as Todd DiLamuca and Gilda Radner as Lisa Loopner. On two shows that year (Apr. 22 and Nov. 4), host Steve Martin joined in, playing the character Charles Knerlman, or "Chaz the Spaz" as he was known to Todd and Lisa. (A side note: in one of the sketches, "Nerds Science Fair," Chaz the Spaz says to Lisa, "That's a fabulous science fair project... not!" Though this was hardly the first use of "not" for sarcastic negation, it may have laid the groundwork for usage in the "Wayne's World" sketches and movies a decade or so later.) A year after the SNL sketches in 1979, Bill Murray starred in the summer-camp comedy Meatballs, which featured a stereotypically nerdy character played by Jack Blum called "Spaz."
For someone like Tiger Woods who came of age in the '80s (and who, incidentally, is on record as saying that another Bill Murray movie, Caddyshack, is his all-time favorite), the American usage of spaz had long lost any resonance it might have had with the epithet spastic. This is not the case in Great Britain, however, where both spastic and spaz evidently remain in active usage as derogatory terms for people with cerebral palsy or other disabilities affecting motor coordination. A BBC survey ranked spastic as the second-most offensive term for disabled people, just below ******. (Spaz does not appear on the list, though presumably it was just considered a variant form of spastic.) The BBC attributes the British resurgence of the epithet to publicity in the early '80s surrounding a man with cerebral palsy named Joey Deacon, particularly his appearance on the children's television show Blue Peter in 1981. The word spaz and other variants like spazmo became firmly connected with Deacon among British youth, according to the BBC report.
Another teenage argument.
"Intelligent" people on average earn more money and have more time to spend educating their children, who on average go to better schools too. Attributing their success to genes is really very shallow of you.
People are overall (or at least in richer countries) are getting taller, not because of genetics but because of better nutrition.
Do you think that means height is not at all heritable?
