The Tragic Death of California

The Tragic Death of California

California, a once riding wave of prosperity and golden promise, is at a crossroads and is facing legitimate issues suc

12 July 2025 at 06:08 AM
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by lozen

Do you think he is wrong that the Floral store or restaurant is regulated and taxed to the max while the illegal immigrant can sell flowers on the street or have a little food stand with no requirements at all

I still remember how long it took Bill Maher to get his little solar shed inspected . Every week he would say another 7 days it took 1131 days

There is a kernel of truth there but its dialed up to 10000 to fear monger

Adam is worth 100 million +. He isn't walking the streets experiencing any of this. Hes just parroting talking points that hes heard

edit: Looking into it, he should be worth 100 million but a bunch of bad investments and a messy divorce might have him worth significantly less.


by coordi

There is a kernel of truth there but its dialed up to 10000 to fear monger

Adam is worth 100 million +. He isn't walking the streets experiencing any of this. Hes just parroting talking points that hes heard

edit: Looking into it, he should be worth 100 million but a bunch of bad investments and a messy divorce might have him worth significantly less.

Adam grew up and lived his whole life in Los Angeles area. He grew up in north Hollywood, which was a white trash dump at the time, and isn’t any better now. His single mother didn’t work and he grew up on welfare. And he didn’t become wealthy until his 30s. So your description of his life experience isn’t correct at all.

And I have driven down Forest Lawn countless times over the years and it is exactly as he describes. And if you go to any big public venue like a concert or sports game, it is exactly like he describes. With rows of illegal hot dog carts lined up outside.


I hav been middle class my whole life, so I grew up at a higher social status than Carola, and have lived my adult life at a lower social status than him.

But i ah e always found there was nothing unbelievable in anything he says about Los Angeles based on my experiences. And a lot of it i can confirm is exactly as he describes.


by Dunyain

With rows of illegal hot dog carts lined up outside.

Which is how it should be.

I will admit to getting pretty messed up by some street meat in Guatemala but that's the price of freedom.


by Luckbox Inc

Which is how it should be.

I will admit to getting pretty messed up by some street meat in Guatemala but that's the price of freedom.

The only street food I buy is fresh fruit.
As it is cut up on site some built in quality control.

To each their own.


by Dunyain

I will say I did some major work in my house and had to do a lot of inspections and regulatory work, and it all went fairly smoothly.

But I live in Orange County (which is generally more friendly to businesses and taxpayers than LA) and my wife works from home so she was always available to meet them.

So probably very different than what Maher had to deal with.

Howdy neighbor!

I live in North Tustin.


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by Luciom

the high speed rail from LA to SanFra was supposed to be completed by 2020 and cost 33 billions (started in 2008).

we are in 2025 and it's not there, estimates are now 106 billions.

and this has a lot to do with disfunctions at the local (county) level.

I think the high see rail could actually be worth its investment in the long run as it aligns with the states long term goals of reducing carbon emissions and as it also helps to maintain its identity as a tech leader in innovation.

It has been a total disaster up to this point, but I actually think that it is things like this that will keep California moving forward - much like how the interstate highway and major airport systems were once controversial but ultimately became essential. And they too had **** ups.

Because at some point, you're going to have some sort of a high speed rail all throughout the state and the world.


I'm curious ... for the person who singled out as California as a state in demise .... which state do they think represents a beacon of success ? Are the any ?


Probably Mississippi. Lot of room for improvement.


by Nut Nut

I'm curious ... for the person who singled out as California as a state in demise .... which state do they think represents a beacon of success ? Are the any ?

Vermont(?)


Vermont is one of the most liberal states in the nation. West Virginia is probably the closest demographically, but the problem is without a large minority population, poor whites have periodic moments of clarity where they realize republican policies don't work, at least on a state level. A decade plus ago you could have said Kansas as it was being hyped as the nations laboratory for conservative economic policy. It was a massive failure so conservatives just pretend like it never happened.


Speaking of Adam Carola:


Also, apparently Karen Bass (mayor) and Newsom are doing a victory lap for the homeless population in Los Angeles going down a few % in the last couple years. Of course they omitted the part where the decrease is from so many of them OD'ing; and if you subtract deaths, the population got bigger.


That’s always the case with homeless populations.

Either you get credit for number going down or you don’t get blamed for numbers going up


by Dunyain
by ecriture d'adulte

lol? Can’t tell if this is parody but if you go to UCLA or Berkeley it would be pretty obvious in 5 seconds that the lack of whites is not due to DEI.

I went to one of these schools. I assume you are referring to the percentage of Asians. That is about the same as it was 25 years ago. The difference is they are dramatically intentionally decreasing the white population

Whites vote for trump more than anyone else right?

Whites aren’t as smart as the other races because they don’t need to be in order to reap the same benefits. Supply and demand amigo


California bill proposes turning fire-ra...

(TNND) — There is a new law moving through the California legislature, one that would allow property taxes to let LA County buy fire-destroyed lots for low-income housing.

The Center Square reports that Governor Gavin Newsom has allocated $101 million in taxpayer funds for “multifamily low-income housing development” in communities in Los Angeles devastated by the Palisades, Eaton and Hughes wildfires.

The bill has already passed the State Senate and would allow property taxes to fund “Resilient Rebuilding Authorities" that would have to use at least 40% of their funding for building low-income housing.

Senate Bill 549 would allow the RRA for the Los Angeles wildfires to “Issue, receive, and administer funds, including, but not limited to, tax-increment financing, federal loans and grants, state loans and grants, and philanthropic grants, to support recovery.”

There is specific language in the bill for how the money should be used. It will also facilitate reconstruction of lost rental housing stock, senior-serving housing, and replacement of affordable housing lost in the fires.”


Seems fine.


by Nut Nut

I'm curious ... for the person who singled out as California as a state in demise .... which state do they think represents a beacon of success ? Are the any ?

My timeline is post covid and the majority of states are in better spots than before.

California's has grown in population every single year since the great depression all the way up to 2019. Economically, that is meaningful, when migration shifts reshape business and infrastructure needs, and who invests in those needs.



Looks like the main issue is California business rules that dissuade refineries from operating there. This is the last paragraph of the article, which is probably the most relevant one to understand why CA cant find local refiners.

California's energy regulator last month recommended new rules to encourage more private investment in fuel imports and a pause on refiner profit limits in response to Governor Gavin Newsom's call for reliable fuel supplies and a bid to save the struggling refiners in the state.


I think the best way for California to get itself into a stronger position is to become the national leader in implementing automated public transit wherever possible, not just focusing on highspeed rail. Automated transit is inevitable, whether people resist it or not, so California might as well go all in where it has the advantage. Tesla isn't valued at what it is because of its vehicles. They've got Silicon Valley, the need for more efficient transit, climate issues and the future jobs.

But it's going to be super expensive, and California is broke because they decided to become the leader of budget mismanagement to virtue signal the dumbest mother****ers on earth.

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