2025 World Series of Poker May 27th - July 16th
2025 World Series of Poker May 27th - July 16th
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2025 World Series of Poker May 27th - July 16th

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18 December 2024 at 05:14 PM
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Completely agree. If he wins, which looks almost certain, he is the best tournament player of all time. The only person who would have an argument would be Phil Hellmuth, but the Grinder has better main event results, more PPC wins and overall success in non holdem events, better results against large fields, and WPT success. The only thing Hellmuth would have over the Grinder is overall bracelets, but a lot of those were against small fields.


Btw, I haven't followed "wrestling" since like the mid-80s when I turned 7 years old

But Nicky Shulman and Ali, please note that while "The Grindr" is available as a WWE/etc nickname (which that App would love as publicity), "The Mizz" for Mizrachi is sadly already in use

We could easily see some Mizz on Mizz action though

Ladder Cage Match to secure the Belt and be the only wrastler allowed to be called "The Mizz" and then Grindr can use another nickname after he's forced to lose that Match lol


grinder is high key dumb as **** for wantig it to stop. he literally didn't want t play agyer it went down to 4. why?

his edge is even greater when its against 4 short stackers, they are on edge. they will get tired and not give a **** eventually hitting abreaking point and abreak only gives them ample tim to get coached to improve their equity by 1%

idk why the **** he wanted to stop play


Grinder definitely ran good but that was a dominant performance by a guy who understood he was playing against a ton of scared money

Definitely the most entertaining FT, short as it was, of the last few years


by LimpDitka m

Completely agree. If he wins, which looks almost certain, he is the best tournament player of all time. The only person who would have an argument would be Phil Hellmuth, but the Grinder has better main event results, more PPC wins and overall success in non holdem events, better results against large fields, and WPT success. The only thing Hellmuth would have over the Grinder

Ms. Rachi gave us all early years WPT 6 handed Final Table flashbacks today like we had all been in 'Nam 😳😳

For those too young (or unstudied) to know -- during WPT Final Tables, they condescendenced the action to fit within their 1 hour or 2 hour TV time slots but aired it (with post Commentary by Vince and Mike) to make it seem as if hand after hand was 4 bet Jam Shove All-ins that always got called

Today almost felt like that except that (after the blackout) it all happened in real time and actually was that fast

{Towards the end of this broadcast that was more to do with Mikey having mega chips and he had the smallest stack on his left and could also steal the button from the appropriately named hijack spot whenever the other smaller stack had put in 4BB (the BB AND the BB Ante)}


by the pleasure m

grinder is high key dumb as **** for wantig it to stop. he literally didn't want t play agyer it went down to 4. why?his edge is even greater when its against 4 short stackers, they are on edge. they will get tired and not give a **** eventually hitting abreaking point and abreak only gives them ample tim to get coached to improve their equity by 1%idk why the **** he wanted t

I can’t possibly imagine he wanted it to stop. I think he thought they were gonna color up and keep going


It looked like it was the floor that wanted to stop play, probably to preserve the pokergo schedule. But I think next year this day should be a set number of hours and if there's no next day, there's no next day.


by the pleasure m

grinder is high key dumb as **** for wantig it to stop. he literally didn't want t play agyer it went down to 4. why?his edge is even greater when its against 4 short stackers, they are on edge. they will get tired and not give a **** eventually hitting abreaking point and abreak only gives them ample tim to get coached to improve their equity by 1%idk why the **** he wanted t

With respect, you're misunderstanding what occurred

Bro would've LOVED to keep playing and keep his rush while everyone, especially Halleart, felt dejected

He simply asked the question because they're told ahead of time what the parameters would be for ending Day 1 of 2. And getting down to 5, let alone 4, players would've been on that list.

It would've been more surprising for them to let this go down to 3 players and ZERO chance that Mori, Cary, Daniel, etc, would agree to finish it on Day 1 of 2

Just FYI


Kenny’s line on the KJ/QT hand seemed tournament ending and totally baffling from start to finish

If Braxton can get a double up I like his chances more than I should


by TiltPocketAces m

John Wasnock could not be more boring if he tried. These "Fish out of water" stories need to have a schtick or something charming about them.

Kenny talks sooo quick and plays so slow, he would be better being more chatty at the table imo

I like the last guy. Who is he

He’s just like all the other guys, what’s he supposed to be doing or saying? He got dic’d down with KK and now has an absolute monster on his left having time of his life knowing he’s going to get whatever he needs.


by threebanger m

The boomers are back baby

Grunching to this post, which made me curious. How many baby boomers have made the final table in the last 10 years? I know Hossein Ensan (b. May 1964) is one of them. Is he the last? John Hesp, the jovial British guy from a few years prior to Ensan, was born in 1961. I did only half-assed research so I might have missed someone.

Obviously, the number gets reasonably high if you go back far enough, which is why I narrow the focus to 2016-2025. e.g. the 2004 FT had four: Raymer (barely), Harrington, Krux and McClain, since the youngest boomers were still in their early 40s back then.

rjen, please report to the white courtesy phone πŸ˜€


by Professional Loser m

With respect, you're misunderstanding what occurredBro would've LOVED to keep playing and keep his rush while everyone, especially Halleart, felt dejectedHe simply asked the question because they're told ahead of time what the parameters would be for ending Day 1 of 2. And getting down to 5, let alone 4, players would've been on that list.It would've been more surprising for th

by StoppedRainingMen m

I can’t possibly imagine he wanted it to stop. I think he thought they were gonna color up and keep going

HE LEGIT on stream asked the TO why they re still playing when it went 4 handed. he said "why are we still going"


by the pleasure m

Yes
Because he understood the rules before he sat down for hand #1 and felt confused they'd be willing to let it go down to 3 or 2 and destroy their coverage for tomorrow no matter how fast it went

Cary Katz has no desire to have to refund all those advertising dollars no matter how entertaining it could've been for Mikey to Speedrun this FT lol


by CrazyLond m

It looked like it was the floor that wanted to stop play, probably to preserve the pokergo schedule. But I think next year this day should be a set number of hours and if there's no next day, there's no next day.

Yea I think they should play minimum 4 levels with a hard stop if it reaches heads up.


A lot of grown men gushing over a poker player.


by Professional Loser m

Ms. Rachi gave us all early years WPT 6 handed Final Table flashbacks today like we had all been in 'Nam 😳😳

2004 flashbacks here. Raymer tore through that final table so fast ESPN couldn't get an edited double episode out of it like they did every other year.

I was following that one online as I knew one of the players and remember wondering how ESPN was going to get two hours of TV time out of it and they didn't...


by InterestedWrasse m

Did they make the final 4 it's own day last year? Seems unnecessary.. they should do it by time or level if anything.

I agree. Or at least have some flexibility. I can sort of understand if this was televised on a legacy network and you have programming or ad-buy considerations. But this is just streamed. The TV version can be edited down to how ever many episodes you need, regardless of when it was played.

With two players with 10 and 8 BBs, respectively, there's no reason we can't keep going until one of those players is eliminated, or (far less likely) both shorties rally back to 30-plus stacks. This one strikes me as a strange place to stop.


by mongidig m

A lot of grown men gushing over a poker player.

Before anyone bothers to respond to this post know that this guy has proudly declared he has wasted untold amounts on chaturb8 models

Go in peace


by StoppedRainingMen m

Before anyone bothers to respond to this post know that this guy has proudly declared he has wasted untold amounts on chaturb8 models

Go in peace

Max ROFLs


by Wilbury Twist m
by InterestedWrasse m

Did they make the final 4 it's own day last year? Seems unnecessary.. they should do it by time or level if anything.

I agree. Or at least have some flexibility. I can sort of understand if this was televised on a legacy network and you have programming or ad-buy considerations. But this is just streamed. The TV version can be edited down to how ever many episodes you need, rega

no one was expecting 5 players to go out in 2-3 hours. Most final tables with this format took 7-8 hours at least to get to 4.

while I agree, no one could have predicted this given results for last years


by the pleasure m

HE LEGIT on stream asked the TO why they re still playing when it went 4 handed. he said "why are we still going"

I must have missed that

Idk


Every WSOP ME has its own unique identity.

Assuming Mizrachi closes the deal, this ME will be the story of a guy with <3 BB with 24 left getting gift after gift from the deck.

He's obviously an extremely talented poker player. No doubt about that whatsoever.

But winning requires a lot of "run good" and he's gotten got that run good every time he needed it.


by Wilbury Twist m
by threebanger m

The boomers are back baby

Grunching to this post, which made me curious. How many baby boomers have made the final table in the last 10 years? I know Hossein Ensan (b. May 1964) is one of them. Is he the last? John Hesp, the jovial British guy from a few years prior to Ensan, was born in 1961. I did only half-assed research so I might have missed someone. Obviously, the number g

I scrolled back to find the Post you Quoted...

He's Gen Z, bro πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ (obviously not you but the dude you Quoted)

Also, fun fact, "Action" Dan Harrington isn't truly considered a Boomer by most generation definers
The "Boom" happened after men returned from the War AND the general population felt a bit more comfortable back home

So most "Boomers, " at the very youngest, would be 6 months to a year younger than Dan
Who, by the way, was 10 years younger (40) than Wos (50) when DH made his 1st WSOP ME FT, and Wos is 10 years younger than those who are considered the youngest Baby Boomers (currently 60). Lol


by Elbow Jobertski m
by Professional Loser m

Ms. Rachi gave us all early years WPT 6 handed Final Table flashbacks today like we had all been in 'Nam 😳😳

2004 flashbacks here. Raymer tore through that final table so fast ESPN couldn't get an edited double episode out of it like they did every other year. I was following that one online as I knew one of the players and remember wondering how ESPN was going to get two hour

Raymer really lived up to his nickname on that historic (and initially fast) win!

...not "fossil man, " ofc, but Greg "The Calling Station" Raymer πŸ˜‰πŸ˜œ lol GG Greg


by Nut Nut m

Every WSOP ME has its own unique identity.

Assuming Mizrachi closes the deal, this ME will be the story of a guy with <3 BB with 24 left getting gift after gift from the deck.

He's obviously an extremely talented poker player. No doubt about that whatsoever.

But winning requires a lot of "run good" and he's gotten got that run good every time he needed it.

It’s why I think it’s odd to call grinder the greatest MTT player though I’ll definitely say greatest WSOP player

Tomorrow will be the 10th day of the main event. The amount of rungood that’s required to survive a 10 day tournament massively exceeds the amount of skill required. It’s an obviously amazing accomplishment but you’ll never convince me, even with a win, that he’s a better tourney player than say, deeb

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