Saeculum
I would like to introduce a concept to the forum for discussion. Here is the Wikipedia explanation of the term
I just want to acknowledge that there is a genuine darkness in this concept of Saeculum.
80 years ago there were assembly lines whose sole purpose was human extermination. Remove clothes, step into the communal shower room, some solider popped the Zyklon-B into an opening which ventilated the lethal gas into the shower room. Prisoners gathered the bodies and moved them to an incinerator for cremation.
If we wanted to avoid a recurrence of such horrors, we would probably make a thorough investigation of the environmental conditions which gave rise to the monstrous side of our mass psyche.
When I look back at the root cause of many bloody revolutions, I see a common denominator. The gap between have's and have-not's. The contrast between free white men in the South and enslaved black men was too big.
When too many people feel like they are failing and slowly sliding backwards, bitterness and fear rise in the masses. Frightened people flock to a strong man who promises them that he has the strength to let other people die while he lets them live. That's how Trump signals his followers with his immigration enforcement. Trump stokes fear like Hitler did.
Is Project 2025 the analog for the National Socialists of Germany's past? Is it a white christian nationalist expression of fear. Is it a manifestation of a human herd which is sorting itself into surviving and non-surviving subgroups ?
the hting that scares me is roman empire and other gream empires, that we know of, had a lifespan of about 200-500 years before collapse, aside from Asian and ottoman that techinally was 1000 years same with Constantinople I guess
maybe im being a manic, which i am, i don tthink USA or any other 1st work country will topple like history, but it is weird to think about.
to answer OP, i do wonder how the average person was mentally in bc, ad when wars were constant and day to day life was "simple" but with technology and new world issues, its impossible to compare the two
i don tthink USA or any other 1st work country will topple like history, but it is weird to think about.
Look at what's happening in the USA as we speak.
1) We have a $2 trillion dollar annual spending deficit. Interest payments on the aggregate debt are soaring.
2) We have a President who is a master at scapegoating.
He is currently trashing Jerome Powell, his own choice for the Federal Reserve, for the Fed Funds Rate, complaining that this is driving up the cost of maintain the debt.
The truth is that the Fed Funds Rate does not determine the rate at which the US govt borrows. That is determined by the open market for US Treasuries. The Federal Reserve doesn't control the thing which the president is blaming him for.
The US Empire has been in large part a financial empire. Trump's bluster has made the rest of the world realize that the US is neither a reliable or predictable business partner. Other nations are altering their policies in a manner which recognizes that the US is not a dependable ally.
Whatever brand equity we had built up as a valued ally during WW2 and a nation that could make a moral claim about standing up for something noble (representative democracy) has been squandered by the brutality of the US and its support of Israel's brutality in Gaza. We are becoming a rogue nation which allowed itself to cultivate a dependency on foreigners purchasing our Treasury bonds.
New alliances are being made while Project 2025 here in the US wants to create something isolationist that looks like the TV show, Handmaid's Tale.
I think people who don't believe that the US is undergoing a transformative change should read about Project 2025.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_20...
The ninth iteration of the Heritage Foundation's Mandate for Leadership series, Project 2025 is based on a controversial interpretation of the unitary executive theory that states that the entire executive branch is under the complete control of the president. The project's proponents say it would dismantle a government bureaucracy that is unaccountable and mostly liberal. Critics have called it an authoritarian, Christian nationalist plan that would steer the U.S. toward autocracy. Some legal experts say it would undermine the rule of law, separation of powers,separation of church and state, and civil liberties.
They have their fanatics installed at the Supreme Court. People who voted in the infamous Citizens United case that corporations have rights on par with human beings.
We are swirling the drain in a very dark spiral.
The manifesto advises the president to go further than merely nullifying Biden's executive orders on climate change, to "eradicate climate change references from absolutely everywhere".
authors or contributors to Project 2025 who have been nominated or appointed to roles in the second Trump administration include Michael Anton (contributor, appointed Director of Policy Planning); Paul S. Atkins (contributor, nominated for Chair of the Securities and Exchange Commission); Steven G. Bradbury (contributor, nominated for Deputy Secretary of Transportation);Troy Edgar (contributor, nominated for Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security); Jon Feere (contributor, appointed Chief of Staff at ICE);Pete Hoekstra (contributor, nominated for ambassador to Canada); Roman Jankowski (contributor, appointed Chief Privacy Officer and Chief Freedom of Information Act Officer for the Department of Homeland Security); and Peter Navarro (author, appointed Senior Counselor for Trade and Manufacturing). Trump's nominations were confirmed faster than in his first term and faster than Biden's cabinet nominations.
I think people who don't believe that the US is undergoing a transformative change should read about Project 2025.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_20...
The ninth iteration of the Heritage Foundation's Mandate for Leadership series, Project 2025 is based on a controversial interpretation of the unitary executive theory that states that the entire executive branch is under the complete control of the president. The project's proponents say it would dismantle a government bureaucracy that is unaccountable and mostly liberal. Critics have called it an authoritarian, Christian nationalist plan that would steer the U.S. toward autocracy. Some legal experts say it would undermine the rule of law, separation of powers,separation of church and state, and civil liberties.
They have their fanatics installed at the Supreme Court. People who voted in the infamous Citizens United case that corporations have rights on par with human beings.
We are swirling the drain in a very dark spiral.
The manifesto advises the president to go further than merely nullifying Biden's executive orders on climate change, to "eradicate climate change references from absolutely everywhere".
authors or contributors to Project 2025 who have been nominated or appointed to roles in the second Trump administration include Michael Anton (contributor, appointed Director of Policy Planning); Paul S. Atkins (contributor, nominated for Chair of the Securities and Exchange Commission); Steven G. Bradbury (contributor, nominated for Deputy Secretary of Transportation);Troy Edgar (contributor, nominated for Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security); Jon Feere (contributor, appointed Chief of Staff at ICE);Pete Hoekstra (contributor, nominated for ambassador to Canada); Roman Jankowski (contributor, appointed Chief Privacy Officer and Chief Freedom of Information Act Officer for the Department of Homeland Security); and Peter Navarro (author, appointed Senior Counselor for Trade and Manufacturing). Trump's nominations were confirmed faster than in his first term and faster than Biden's cabinet nominations.
“I’m not abandoning the Southern Border States. I’m honoring their right to self-determination. We’re simply reallocating federal resources toward restorative justice and cross-border cooperation, in solidarity with our Mexican and Indigenous siblings. This is what decolonizing foreign policy looks like.
We’re also expanding immigration pathways through executive parole, regional asylum agreements, and fast-track residency for essential workers and their families along with dismantling punitive enforcement systems that criminalize migration and separate communities.
I’d like to thank the Heritage Foundation for giving the executive branch the tools to finally make it happen.”
—President Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 2029
Ain't no fun when the rabbit gets the gun.
I just want to acknowledge that there is a genuine darkness in this concept of Saeculum. 80 years ago there were assembly lines whose sole purpose was human extermination. Remove clothes, step into the communal shower room, some solider popped the Zyklon-B into an opening which ventilated the lethal gas into the shower room. Prisoners gathered the bodies and moved them to an in
This is very very dark indeed. Nazi Germany was one of the richest countries on earth when it organized the death camps. And it killed uppermiddle, middle class people with a little over median income before racial laws (jews), and poor and disabled people, and homosexuals (with no regards to income) and gipsies (who tended to be poor).
Quite literally absolutely nothing in the slightest to do with "haves vs haves not". At all. It's obscene to claim the holocaust was caused by economic reasons.
When Hitler came to power in 1933, Germany was in the grip of the Great Depression which left 1/3 of its citizens unemployed. Their savings having been wiped out by hyperinflation and the nation having been humiliated by the economic sanctions imposed with the Treaty of Versailles.
In return for his giving those starving and desperate people jobs, they gave him God-like powers to do whatever he demanded of them.
Economic reasons are the ONLY rationale for the Holocaust.
