Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
If the system were natural it wouldn’t require so much reinforcement
...So we're not moving on
This corpus guy really doesn't understand that reading this thread is optional.
We dont live in Yemen or Afghanistan where women are regarded as little more than cattle and sold off at a young age with no say in the matter. If men in free societies are institutionally scum, then that is because what women have chosen for.Even in the highly patriarchal societies listed above, there undoubtably has to be some level of female buy in and positive reinforcemen
The female buy in is you either do it or get abused/murdered
i think it's wild that we're praising the thoughts of a philandering dandy who grew up rich and never had to work a day in his life who believed in jewish space lasers and was an active communist who was team stalin until the secret speech and then when i give a data driven post on the prevalence of single women and incels it's outright implied that i'm a horrible monster who i
Fairly sure that, in Werner Herzog's documentary Grizzly Man, the bear killed and ate both the bear-obsessed man and his bear-obsessed girlfriend, who were equally convinced that they totally understood the bear and were friends of the bear and that the bear would never harm them. The bear, of course, didn't give a damn what they thought, it just ate them.
The audio portion of this video tape lasts roughly 6 minutes. During this period, Tim's cries and pleadings can be heard for two-thirds of that time. He did not die quickly, unlike some traumatic death victims who were lucky enough to drift off into a shock induced dream state. Tim was obviously very aware and struggling desperately to survive during the last moments of his life.
Unlike what is portrayed in the movies, the bear is nearly silent. Only low growls and periodic grunts are heard which only adds to the horror of the scene. Sounds of the bear dragging Tim off, and the fading sounds of his scream's indicate that Tim is being pulled and dragged into the brush and away from camp.
As the tape comes to an end, the sounds of Amie's high-pitched screams rise to a new level, much like what has been described as "the sound of a predator call used by hunters to produce the distress cries of a small wounded animal which often attracts bears". Biologist Larry Van Daele, for the Alaska Department of Fish and Game theorizes that Amie's screams "may have prompted the bear to return and kill her.
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But she can change the bear
The whole point of the philosophical discussion isn't that a man is inherently more dangerous than a bear, its that the intent and nature of the bear is immediately known
The deeper discussion is around if a bear mauls you the bear is put down where as if a man assaults a woman there could be this societal expectation that the woman sit down and work through forgiveness of the man or that the man deserves rehabilitation after recording the incident and sharing it with his friends. Or maybe inviting his friends to join in. Or whatever
Or the man may keep the woman in a dungeon for years, torturing her every day.
the bear killed and ate both the bear-obsessed man and his bear-obsessed girlfriend, who were equally convinced that they totally understood the bear and were friends of the bear and that the bear would never harm them.
You seem to have missed the entire point of the bear meme at an extremely basic level.
The whole point of the philosophical discussion isn't that a man is inherently more dangerous than a bear, its that the intent and nature of the bear is immediately knownThe deeper discussion is around if a bear mauls you the bear is put down where as if a man assaults a woman there could be this societal expectation that the woman sit down and work through forgiveness of the m
If we can effectively rehabilitate the man, why not? I don’t expect the woman to be part of the process necessarily, but if it is effective and the woman is willing to join, why not?
Also there’s something to the idea of the man seeking forgiveness from the woman and the woman freely giving it that could be empowering.
Its also provocative and memey and within the discussion you have nearly infinite permutation of meme, meme/serious, and serious discussions going on as tends to happen with internet discussion
I think the underlying issue with the majority of people here is a lack if self esteem. Its what brings us here, makes us mostly introverts irl and is the main driver for how people treat others.
But now i think more people have it now than ever before and the ability to argue like this doesnt solve it.
I'm just here because I'm waiting for my poke, personally.
The whole point of the philosophical discussion isn't that a man is inherently more dangerous than a bear, its that the intent and nature of the bear is immediately knownThe deeper discussion is around if a bear mauls you the bear is put down where as if a man assaults a woman there could be this societal expectation that the woman sit down and work through forgiveness of the m
Did i hear a whisper suggesting we should put men who are violent with women or other weaker parties down like beasts? btw when the province of Trento put down the famous (in Italy) bear M90 we had a year of protests by leftists.
Kinda absurd that you decry socially rehabiltating the filth of society as bad, when it's only your tribe that insisted we do that for decades. We always wanted to put them down like animals.
If we can effectively rehabilitate the man, why not? I don’t expect the woman to be part of the process necessarily, but if it is effective and the woman is willing to join, why not?
Also there’s something to the idea of the man seeking forgiveness from the woman and the woman freely giving it that could be empowering.
Define effectively rehabilitate pls, and are you willing to personally take responsibility if that person commits a similar crime in his future?
Define effectively rehabilitate pls, and are you willing to personally take responsibility if that person commits a similar crime in his future?
If you’re able to measurably reduce recidivism to a significant degree for crimes that have the possibility of parole/release anyway, or if you are able to reduce their violent tendencies in prison and have them contribute positively to society from there.
And rape is not generally a crime where people get locked up forever so I’m not feeling the weight of the moral responsibility if we pursue these avenues.
If you’re able to measurably reduce recidivism to a significant degree for crimes that have the possibility of parole/release anyway, or if you are able to reduce their violent tendencies in prison and have them contribute positively to society from there.And rape is not generally a crime where people get locked up forever so I’m not feeling the weight of the moral responsibili
Rapists should all get the death penalty and it's incredible they don't, so there is that
Which other crimes should be punishable by death?
Rapists getting the death penalty would certainly solve the biggest problem we have in this country right now.
(cue the pedants bleating on about the difference between civil and criminal as if we don't know)
this is the biggest conservative virtue signal because you’re the same people that accuse every woman of making a false rape allegation.
imagine how much harder it would be for victims to come forward if they also had to deal with the guilt of being responsible for someone else’s death in addition to being raped? it’s just a stupid idea that even arch-conservative tough on crime types have rebuked, for many reasons, not the least of which are prudential.
