Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
Despite all the trappings of materialism and the perils of malaria, and despite the disastrous and long lived consequences of having many generations of young healthy people removed from their societies, the median west African has had a far happier life than the median black American over the past 100 years, say, ainec.
The median west African is going to also be happier than the average white American.
Well, I don't think the mods are using the median poster as their reference point. They are using their own political sensibilities and making determinations what views are harmless and can be permitted, and which are dangerous and cannot. I disagree, but the mods feel the radical leftism that you and Victor espouse are harmless, and are therefor permitted. But the rhetoric
Agreed
Well, I don't think the mods are using the median poster as their reference point. They are using their own political sensibilities and making determinations what views are harmless and can be permitted, and which are dangerous and cannot. I disagree, but the mods feel the radical leftism that you and Victor espouse are harmless, and are therefor permitted. But the rhetoric
Radical leftism has the potential to be dangerous like any radical ideology. That said presently far right nationalism is more dangerous if various mass shootings and terrorist plots are anything to go by on recent years and it's not even close.
I personally feel radical leftism and Islamism are well past the thresholds where they are just as dangerous to liberal western society, if not more dangerous, than far right nationalism
far right nationalism is not a danger to liberal western society bc it is in fact a crucial component reinforcing western society. leftism should look to radically reshape this genocidal society.
Well, I don't think the mods are using the median poster as their reference point. They are using their own political sensibilities and making determinations what views are harmless and can be permitted, and which are dangerous and cannot. I disagree, but the mods feel the radical leftism that you and Victor espouse are harmless, and are therefor permitted. But the rhetoric
I've pointed out directly how I think Victors points of views were harmful to the election and that his "both sides" narrative is complete nonsense
His personal nihilism is certainly less harmful than a frothing psychopath who wants to be a mini Nick Fuentes seemingly recruiting at the fringes
You can personally disagree, but objectively you are wrong about that
Anyways, if we are really trying to justify Lucioms banning he was most likely banned for being a misogynist and I respect CNs sensitivity to the subject and can attest that Luciom despises women who aren't meek trad wives. I'm sure some of you feel the same about women but you have more self control in keeping your more distasteful opinions to yourselves
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That's probably not hard, because of the shark-pool nature of American society. (In Miller's Death of a Salesman, the suicidal Willy Loman's main concern is that he can't afford his 'insurance', meaning health insurance, so he's losing caste and facing ruin.)
But it doesn't really explain why Nigeria, West Africa's most considerable economy, with the largest population in Africa and seventh largest in the world, has net emigration: -86,000 in 2021, -52,000 in 2022, -58,000 in 2023, -35,000 in 2024. https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metri...
Most of them settle in London, I think.
London is awesome
You are literally describing having one’s ancestors enslaved as a pathway to opportunity. Maybe in purely the most materialistic of terms that is true, but completely ignores the theft of lineage, language, spiritual practices and communal history. Having one’s identity stolen is not a ****ing blessing no matter how you spin it. That’s colonial logic at best. Everything black A
For the people that lived through it, they would never choose slave ships and slavery for life.
For the people living here now, not many choose to leave this country and go somewhere else. And why should they, they’re the ones that hugely contributed to making this country great and as you have said, they have built things for themselves and created a culture in spite of, not because of slavery.
It’s this sort of pessimism about people’s status as Americans and the demand that we always consider black people to be outsiders to America that I think is holding us back. Yes, there was a horrible history, but now they are living here and we should acknowledge them as fully Americans and they should feel good about being Americans just like any other ethnic group can be.
Despite all the trappings of materialism and the perils of malaria, and despite the disastrous and long lived consequences of having many generations of young healthy people removed from their societies, the median west African has had a far happier life than the median black American over the past 100 years, say, ainec.
Past 100 years maybe
Past 50 years?
Past 20 years?
Projecting 100 years into the future with climate change, AI, battles over resources, increasing nuclear proliferation?
For the people that lived through it, they would never choose slave ships and slavery for life.For the people living here now, not many choose to leave this country and go somewhere else. And why should they, they’re the ones that hugely contributed to making this country great and as you have said, they have built things for themselves and created a culture in spite of,
The bolded is speculative, historically meaningless, and colonialist.
Beyond it being an obviously unknowable hypothetical, it’s also just completely narrow-minded and myopic to assume that everyone views what ‘better off’ means through the same western lens as you.
You don’t know what they would choose if given the option to have to their families, languages, cultures, generational wealth, and ancestral homes back. Moreover, you don’t get to guess at that. It’s ****ing gross.
Past 100 years maybe
Past 50 years?
Past 20 years?
Projecting 100 years into the future with climate change, AI, battles over resources, increasing nuclear proliferation?
Just a warning. These posts are right up to the line of what I would consider racist. Tread lightly with that knowledge.
Do you hear yourself at all?
You are caping for the slave trade. Is this what happens when we lose Luciom? He randomly inhabits other posters during the day?
That's probably not hard, because of the shark-pool nature of American society. (In Miller's Death of a Salesman, the suicidal Willy Loman's main concern is that he can't afford his 'insurance', meaning health insurance, so he's losing caste and facing ruin.) But it doesn't really explain why Nigeria, West Africa's most considerable economy, with the largest population in Afric
From a population of 240 million, it's not a huge number.
but now they are living here and we should acknowledge them as fully Americans and they should feel good about being Americans just like any other ethnic group can be.
You sound like some sort of 18th century abolitionist reluctantly coming to terms with the rights of slaves rather than someone talking about people with hundreds of years of ancestry in the US.
Many of your posts are huge tells.
How about- and hear me out, chat- we just don’t defend in any way the ****ing SLAVE TRADE
Just a warning. These posts are right up to the line of what I would consider racist. Tread lightly with that knowledge.
Do you hear yourself at all?
You are caping for the slave trade. Is this what happens when we lose Luciom? He randomly inhabits other posters during the day?
I’m not and I would appreciate if you stop lying about me and my opinions. I know that you can’t have any conversation in good faith, but nothing I have said here has anything to do with supporting slavery or caping for the slave trade.
If you can’t have a debate without being a bad faith liar and abusing your power then don’t be the mod of a politics forum.
What if you just stopped letting your inner Luciom out for the day and stopped with this “descendants of slaves love it here, they’re so lucky!” schtick, and we’ll call it?
You sound like some sort of 18th century abolitionist reluctantly coming to terms with the rights of slaves rather than someone talking about people with hundreds of years of ancestry in the US.
Many of your posts are huge tells.
What? I’m the one that isn’t otherizing black people, you are. And you’re not even from the US so what do you know? You said that black americans have it worse than west africans. Meanwhile we have huge segments of west african immigrants here. So just stop, you’re hysterical and have no idea what you’re talking about.
The only person who sounds hysterical here is you. Everyone else reading your appalling posts is probably baffled by the assumptions of superiority you're making.
Everyone in the west has some idea of how **** life has been for black people in the US, whereas you have no idea at all about life in West Africa because you are arrogant and clueless, so sit down and be quiet and you might learn something if you take a minute to think.
The only person who sounds hysterical here is you. Everyone else reading your appalling posts is probably baffled by the assumptions of superiority you're making.Everyone in the west has a pretty good idea of what life has been like for black people in the US, whereas you have no idea at all about life in West Africa because you are arrogant and clueless, so sit down and be qui
Sounds good, I can’t imagine continuing this tiresome conversation with someone like you.
I don't think the fact that lots of people move to Western countries means that they are happier in the West. Lots of them move and then figure out they're in a rat race and having to work all the time and move back.
