NCAA Football 2025
Not sure who will win this year, hopefully Arch goes nuts and UT can kick the door in after making the quarterfinals the
How much do you have down on Underwood for Heisman? If he's that good and the world doesn't know yet you should be able to make a fortune even at low limits.
Your real 2025 Heisman winner:
tempted to start a separate fade ilp post, but probably best to keep the secrets contained here
similar to bragging about your best fishing spot or the location of the next jerry jones glory hole or kraft rub-n-tug
How much do you have down on Underwood for Heisman? If he's that good and the world doesn't know yet you should be able to make a fortune even at low limits.
Being the best QB in the nation and winning the Heisman are two different things. You know as well as I know a michigan QB is never winning the Heisman under this coaching staff. JJ was the best QB in the nation in 23 but virtually nobody outside Michigan knew it because he played for a Harbaugh styled team.
The bet to make is on Michigan national title futures. After week 2 those juicy odds are gonna collapse. I'm already on top of that.
by the time proven laws of nominative determinism
anyone with a family name starting with 'Under' is likely beginning life from a position of disadvantage
and to be clear i wish no ill on the kid i know nothing about, because that exactly who he is
Billy is recruiting extremely well. You gotta keep him. Maybe he needs to give the reigns up on calling plays (I don't think it's too terrible; I think his clock management is the worst aspect of his coaching).
They just received a crystal ball for the #1 QB in the 2027 class: Elijah Haven. They've been steadily signing 4 star recruits. UF hasn't recruited like this since Urban Meyer.
They need to perform better, but they are about a year or two from competing for the SEC title.
by the time proven laws of nominative determinism
anyone with a family name starting with 'Under' is likely beginning life from a position of disadvantage
and to be clear i wish no ill on the kid i know nothing about, because that exactly who he is
I can't wait until Fluff Bothwell crosses your radar screen!
You know another season draws near when I start posting this guys highlights
Spoiler
in general that little junior quarterback at kansas state moves the needle as mulch as horse doo doo
Mandel: Michigan gets to keep the wins but loses its integrity
Once upon a time, a future Hall of Fame coach lost his job in disgrace for lying on an NCAA compliance form in claiming he knew of no unreported NCAA violations by his players. The condemnation was harsh, especially from fans of his archrival who had tired of losing to him every year.
“Spare us the hymnal, cooler-poopers,” wrote MGoBlog. “Jim Tressel is was a football coach, not a social worker. As he did this, he turned boys into men like every football coach does. This just makes him a football coach. He’s also a hypocrite and liar who lived up to the ‘Senator’ nickname in the end, his moral rectitude just a cover.”
My, how the tables have turned. These days, the phrase “hypocrite(s) and liar(s)” ought to be added to the lyrics of “Hail to the Victors.”
Lol this whole thing is bs. It was a non-story from the beginning and it ends as a non-story. Again lets go over the facts here:
1) Sign stealing is perfectly legal and everyone who is seriously trying to win does it. This fact alone means whatever we're talking about here HAS to be marginal at best.
2) So what we're talking about here is advanced scouting. I.E. Stalions obtained information that's legal to have and use in an illegal matter by doing things like sending his mom to a game at Purdue to record a public event when everyone in attendance also owns the same recording device and could take it out and do the same thing. What a ****ing scandal!
3) You can obtain the same information legally by watching things like the all 22 film, the actual broadcast and other film options. So what are we even talking about here?
4) Advanced scouting is legal in all sports, from high school on up except for college football becuz of a 1994 rule put in place for outdated economic reasons. The NCAA itself said advanced scouting conferred at best a "minimal competitive advantage". So minimal and trivial that the NCAA voted to eliminate the rule twice (once with a majority vote). So what are we even talking about here??!!
5) But here's the thing. Advanced scouting IS actually LEGAL in college football according the the NCAA!!! The COI that just came out (pg 6 & 20) specifically stated staff trading signs information is legal. So the sign stealing guys for Ohio State could give Purdue--a future Michigan opponent--Michigan's signs (this actually happened). We're not talking about having your mom record signs on a shaky iphone from row 40. We're talking about literal experts paid to decipher signals of future opponents giving those signals to experts on other teams. This form of advanced scouting is WAY more effective then your mom in the stands. So what are we even talking about here????!??!!?!?!!?
6) For the QAnon mouth breathers out there that somehow contort their brains to still think this is a big deal, let's remember that Michigan lost their sign stealer guy before they played anyone good in 2023. So for the rest of the year we're playing teams that still have their sign stealer guy while we didn't. That must be a big deal right??!! So what happened? I'll give a short summary. We beat Penn State by sheer force running the ball down their ****ing throats just like we did in 1997; we beat Ohio State becuz we had the better QB (a QB who dreamed of playing for Ohio State his whole life, but Day spurned him for McCord); we outlasted Alabama--the highest rated team star-wise in college football history--in an all out war; and we outclassed the 2nd best Washington team to ever exist. That's what ****ing happened. We were an historically great team that beat that ass. Some low level staffer breaking an outdated bs rule that nobody knew even existed doesn't change that fact.
7) What was this really all about? It can't be about sign stealing or advanced scouting or some magical competitive advantage. The facts above should disabuse everyone from that ridiculous notion, or at least everyone with an IQ above 80. This was, and always has been a witch hunt against Harbaugh. To get the annoying guy that constantly talked about paying players/revenue sharing out of this game, a guy that NEVER deigned to show these fake hypocritical NCAA people any respect. Well the NCAA won that battle--he gone--but it's now obvious to everyone they're gonna lose the war.
Conclusion: The idea that Michigan is lacking in integrity becuz of the above is so dumb it's not even worth wasting my time commenting on, but I'm at work so I'll gladly invest my precious time. The idea that this fake sign stealing "scandal" somehow equates Michigan with the real cheaters out there, the true scum and soulless programs like Kansas and UNC in basketball, or the two biggest cheating programs in the history of college football, Alabama and Ohio State (two programs literally built off the backs of stacked rosters of illegally paid recruits), is ****ing ludicrous. I mean if people wanna believe that go ahead. Whatever gets you through the day in this horror show we call life on this dying planet.
Michigan is just the scapegoat or the one that is focused on when tons of other programs are "cheating" just like USC got made the example of for the same crap Alabama and Ohio State have been doing for decades. It really is a non story.
I just love that Alabama fans have to learn on the fly how hard it is to win when you don't have a virtual monopoly on cheating. What happens in a world where it's legal for everybody to pay players? Your starters get their asses beat in all game by Michigan backups. No other game illustrates this new era of college football better than THAT game. The dark ages of 3-4 of the top cheaters hogging all the championship equity every ****ing year while everyone else is effectively drawing dead are over.
This is what no integrity looks like:
In Armen Keteyian's book about NIL and college football, released about a year ago, he spoke with several college coaches. One coach recalled being part of Saban's staff at LSU. Saban brought up recruiting and the coach replied - "I don't know if we can get him - he's getting some significant under the table stuff from another school." Saban's reply - "You just follow the NCAA recruiting rules, and - turn him over to the boosters - the boosters will take care of that."
During an “On Texas Football” appearance, Johnson stated that the three-time national championship-winning coach asked how much it would cost to get Johnson’s commitment.
“Hell, Urban Meyer locked me in an office in my school, and no bullshit asked me straight up,” Johnson said. “He was like, BJ how much? And this is when he was at Notre Dame at the time.”
There's something extra pathetic about a Kool-Aid drinking wannabe costuming himself as an opposing team staff member and using Spy Kids technology. Just pay the bags under the table like everyone else and stop doing this trailer park bullshit.
Guess Texas is #1 in something. Amazingly first time ever preseason #1 in the coaches poll for Texas.
Yikes, some quibbles until 11, 12, & 13 “who had good luck in 1 score games”-fest hilarity which should not be read as an endorsement of 14.
ILP; I agree the Oklahoma game will be crucial since you play Nebraska a few weeks later. Combining the two will be like playing one game anybody gives a **** about.
Maybe we’ll meet in the playoffs this year—I’m just kidding but deepest sympathies for what you are about to learn about watching a Chip Lindsey offense.
Yikes, some quibbles until 11, 12, & 13 “who had good luck in 1 score games”-fest hilarity which should not be read as an endorsement of 14.ILP; I agree the Oklahoma game will be crucial since you play Nebraska a few weeks later. Combining the two will be like playing one game anybody gives a **** about. Maybe we’ll meet in the playoffs this year—I’m just kidding but deepest sy
The Oklahoma game is actually the most important game on the schedule. Win that game and Michigan's playoff equity shoots to 90%+. Sounds blasphemous to say but The Game really doesn't matter much anymore. For Michigan the goal shouldn't be "Beat Ohio State!". What it should be is "Clinch a playoff spot before we even play Ohio State so losing to them doesn't even matter". Vice versa for the Buckeyes like last year. This is why they need to move Rivalry games to the beginning or middle of the season. With the way things are now nothing minimizes the importance of a rivalry game more than putting that game last on the schedule.
As far as Chip Lindsey: Obviously I love college football and I love Michigan, but I still don't take the sport serious enough to develop an informed opinion of that guy before his first game at Michigan. His track record seems nice. I hope it works out. That's the level I'm at right now. A lot of you guys get way deeper than that. I can't do it. Sometimes I feel smart tho. I pointed out the instant Wisconsin hired Fickell that that was one of the worst hires in Big Ten history. But even that was low hanging fruit for any Michigan fan that went through the Richrod era. What makes that hire so bad tho is not that Fickell is a bad coach (I don't even think Richrod is a bad coach), it's that the Wisconsin higher-ups had a HUGE case study to look at (Michigan-Richrod) and they consciously decided to ignore that history and torpedo their program anyways. But I digress.
