US intelligence agencies ordered to declassify UFO intel.
US intelligence agencies ordered to declassify UFO intel.
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US intelligence agencies ordered to declassify UFO intel.

Are we being prepared for the truth regarding UFOs? Or is this some kind of psyops operation being conducted by the US m

22 March 2021 at 02:39 PM
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Another new potential SETI candidate.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...

I'm sceptical it's Aliens because it's never Aliens.


'We talked to a soldier on the Moon...'


Maybe it's Elvis? He was stationed in Germany so why not station him on the Moon?


Waz dat?


Not Elvis.


Update on alleged 1952 transient objects, https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...

latest paper seems to veer away from them being the result of a plate defect
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2507.15896

https://www.researchgate.net/publication...
https://www.researchsquare.com/article/r...


Probably contaminated photographic plates. Still more likely than aliens.


This might be up your street:


by jalfrezi m

Probably contaminated photographic plates. Still more likely than aliens.

I was thinking the same for pretty much the same reason. Could also be a natural phenomenon that hasn't been figured out yet.


It could be vampires with flashlights.


by lonely_but_rich m

It could be vampires with flashlights.





It can go two ways. #1. UFO's don't exist #2. They exist, are way ahead of us in technology and evolution and desire no contact with us.

So what is our next move?


If aliens exist they may not be aware of us as they're possibly thousands or millions of light years away from us and while some could be, others may not be more advanced than us. We just don't know and probably never will, in our lifetime anyway.
Best chance we have of finding out is by identifying valid bio or technosignatures and again we may never do that.


There's also the possibility that they are here and "among us" but we can't detect them because they exist in a higher dimension, in the same way as something theoretical that exists in 2D wouldn't be able to detect us.


by jalfrezi m

There's also the possibility that they are here and "among us" but we can't detect them because they exist in another dimension, in the same way as something that theoretically existed in 2D wouldn't be able to detect us.

That's how a lot of proponents of the ETH tend to get around the vast distances required for aliens to travel, actually. Personally I doubt it although technically it's a possibility. But that said I don't believe we're being visited anyway as I've never seen any truly compelling evidence that would indicate this and I find the inter dimensional thing a bit too pat/convenient of an explanation, with no real basis to support it, but a handy way to confirm one's beliefs in this regard.

Btw the scientist who did the paper on the alleged 1952 transients does feel they're artificial, as in actually Alien and not a plate defect. She strikes me as a serious minded scientist in general, but after digging around a bit she's apparently spoken at UFO conventions/lectures, so she's probably biased. But she claims she kept thinking her calculations were wrong and eventually had "an ontological shock", regarding the matter, in her own words, which I found an interesting turn of phrase, even if I'm personally sceptical on her mooted findings.


Listened to this earlier. Guest was interesting and very knowledgeable, for anyone who's got some time to burn.

0:00 Why is an Interest in UFOs Maladaptive?
1:36 What Does a Modern UFO Investigator Look Like?
12:03 Why is There So Little Evidence of UFOs?
20:24 How Do We Know UFOs Aren’t a SIOP?
27:47 Are UFOs a Global Phenomenon?
29:28 The Threat of Nuclear Sites
35:57 Why are Non-Human Intelligences on Earth?
38:56 Nuclear Site Interference by UFOs
46:56 Are the Department of Energy Involved?
55:58 How Far Can Civilians Go With UFO Research?
01:00:19 What Physics are Behind UFOs?
01:10:36 Where are We Currently in Physics?
01:16:25 Why Was Townsend Brown’s Experiment Never Replicated?
01:23:01 Why are Renegade Scientists So Highly Criticised?
01:37:02 Where Elon Musk is Going Wrong with Space Exploration
01:43:15 Are We Heading Towards an AI Takeover?
01:48:40 Assessing the Probabilities of Non-Human Intelligence
01:53:23 Consciousness in Quantum Physics
02:09:37 Find Out More About Jesse


How can this thread not be updated recently with the recent congress hearing on UFO's and the newly released video from October 2024 :


That target lock on the hud is sexy


The only reason to crop out the telemetry data is to hide that it's a stationary object.


Is it possible the missile either glanced off or struck a houthi weapon such as a drone? It's unkown I think if the object remained airborne after the strike

Meanwhile NASA claim a found martian rock may hold signs of ancient microbial life


by lonely_but_rich m

The only reason to crop out the telemetry data is to hide that it's a stationary object.

Definitely! This well known debunker explains that it’s most likely a balloon that is hit and explodes into fragments. The movement of the object is from the parallax effect where the recording camera is travelling at 200 mph and the ufo is midway between sea and camera creating the illusion of motion. The stats come into view at some point and he works the maths out. It really is a public service! Can’t believe these easily debunked videos are being aired in congress.

https://youtu.be/cTedmssoj24?si=KnFEvCrw...


by doodiewiz m

Definitely! This well known debunker explains that it’s most likely a balloon that is hit and explodes into fragments. The movement of the object is from the parallax effect where the recording camera is travelling at 200 mph and the ufo is midway between sea and camera creating the illusion of motion. The stats come into view at some point and he works the maths out. It really

Thanks for the link cheers


Was the “Wow! Signal” Emitted from 3I/ATLAS?

The “Wow! Signal” was detected on August 15, 1977 as a strong narrowband radio signal by Ohio State University’s Big Ear radio telescope. Its origin was inferred to be extraterrestrial. The latest natural explanation (accessible here) hypothesized that the “Wow! Signal” was caused by a sudden brightening of the hydrogen line emitted from an interstellar cloud, triggered by a strong transient radio source, such as a flare from a highly magnetized neutron star (magnetar).

The “Wow! Signal” originated from the sky coordinates of Right Ascension (RA)=19h25m=291 degrees and Declination (Dec)=-27 degrees.

On August 12, 1977, the interstellar object 3I/ATLAS was at a distance of about 600 times the Earth-Sun separation (AU) — corresponding to a light-travel time of about 3 days. It had the sky coordinates of RA=19h40m=295 degrees and Dec=-19 degrees. These parameters can be inferred accurately given the lack of non-gravitational acceleration for 3I/ATLAS, as inferred in my latest paper (accessible here).

Hence, the “Wow! Signal” was separated by approximately 4 degrees in RA and 8 degrees in Dec from the direction of 3I/ATLAS. The chance of two random directions in the sky being aligned to that level is about 0.6 percent.

As much as I'm curious, I'd really rather there be no life out there.


Avi Loeb is a grifter imo. He opined oumuamua was an alien probe, then claimed fragments of a meteor found in Papua New Guinea was consistent with alien technology, and has recently opined 31/atlas is an alien spacecraft. Basically anything new and/or unknown is due to aliens. He comes across a a crank at best.

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